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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 23, 2009 9:21:27 GMT -5
Final poll on deer management and regulation suggestions.
I took the top vote getters in the two polls and combined them here.
Please select your top 4 choices in deer management and/or deer regulations changes that you would like to see. We will let this run for a couple weeks and then forward it to the NRC, the summer study committee and the IDNR.
Thanks for participating..
Your choices:
More urban deer zones
Program to donate venison to the hungry no cost
Improve Hunter Access
Keep OBR (one buck rule)
Eliminate OBR (one buck rule)
Combination general tag
General firearm tag to be either sex
Move the gun season out of the main rut
Earn a Buck on the second buck
$5 doe tags
Allow crossbows during all archery seasons
Establish an early muzzleloader season during Oct
Extend archery season Sept15-Jan31
Put Hunter Ed back in the schools
Create a Yearly Sportsman's License
Archery season first Saturday in Sept until Jan 31
NR bonus tags same price as resident’s
Muzzleloading season should be expanded to 3 weeks
Raise price of a tag any weapon 1 buck 2 does
Re-instate the TBR with a premium price 2nd buck
Reciprocal agreements with bordering states
October antlerless only muzzleloader season
Bring back the Lifetime License
Donate a deer, get a free doe tag
Go to a tele-check system
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Post by indianahick on Mar 23, 2009 10:26:09 GMT -5
Voted for what I considered the most important. There was a couple of more that I liked also but chose the four that I felt would allow hunters more hunting opportunities.
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Post by ribbuster on Mar 23, 2009 12:16:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the poll and like Indianahick I voted for the ones that gave more hunting opportunities as well.But I also feel like I would of voted for a few more as well given the chance. I don't like anti hunting legislations or overtly restrictive regulations.I will never vote for any reduction in bag limits or restrictions of weapons.This is not what hunters should ever want unless a species is in danger of collapse or dwindling.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Mar 23, 2009 13:22:36 GMT -5
Checked my 4........
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Post by HuntMeister on Mar 23, 2009 14:48:06 GMT -5
Done, thanks for putting this together Woody!
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Post by Ahawkeye on Mar 23, 2009 16:00:36 GMT -5
Good set up on these Woody!
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Post by steiny on Mar 23, 2009 20:00:53 GMT -5
Guess if I had to choose just one, it would be to implement tele-check. This should be a real easy, low cost deal and be much more convenient for deer hunters.
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Post by Decatur on Mar 23, 2009 20:08:38 GMT -5
Decisions, decisions!
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Post by huxbux on Mar 23, 2009 20:53:42 GMT -5
Yea, four choices didn't seem like enough, there were so many good ones. As I suspected, the pro and anti OBR measures pretty well cancelled each other out. Although I think bringing back the lifetime license would be nice, I didn't vote for it because there's zero chance the DNR will ever resume that offer due to loss of funds.
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Post by lugnutz on Mar 23, 2009 21:52:02 GMT -5
I'm glad to see that we aren't willing to ban my deer mirror or my acorn crunchy thing!
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Post by Decatur on Mar 24, 2009 13:55:57 GMT -5
What about your blow up doll? ;d
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Post by raporter on Mar 25, 2009 7:45:57 GMT -5
Guess if I had to choose just one, it would be to implement tele-check. This should be a real easy, low cost deal and be much more convenient for deer hunters. I think this is the most important one too. Lots of good ones though.
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Post by ribbuster on Mar 25, 2009 7:57:25 GMT -5
You may need to break down the poll one more time to just the top 10 ideas then allow 5 votes and take these to the state as the top priority ideas .Just a thought .
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 25, 2009 8:15:18 GMT -5
You may need to break down the poll one more time to just the top 10 ideas then allow 5 votes and take these to the state as the top priority ideas .Just a thought . What we might do is seperate the top suggestions into two categories - a "regulations" and a "deer management" category. Although some would fit into both categories. Right now it seems that the most important, in our minds, is rising to the top. Only 5 selections have 10 or more votes. I will give the NRC, IDNR and the summer study committtee results of all the votes, but add some verbage with the top half dozen or so.
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Post by Decatur on Mar 25, 2009 10:30:49 GMT -5
We might as well eliminate the OBR questions because they just keep cancelling each other out.
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Post by ribbuster on Mar 25, 2009 10:37:33 GMT -5
We might as well eliminate the OBR questions because they just keep cancelling each other out. I think we should see how it plays out anyways .Who knows till the poll is over ya know what I mean.Heck it was a tie and we still ended up with GW 2.0 and that was way bigger than this .LOL
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Post by Decatur on Mar 25, 2009 10:56:38 GMT -5
I didn't mean eliminate it from the poll, I just meant as a possible suggestion to the DNR.
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Post by ribbuster on Mar 25, 2009 11:35:20 GMT -5
Honestly there is one on here that is already in existence on this poll that I believe are totally waisting our time on voting for and that is the donating deer program .In these hard economic time times no one at the state level should or would vote to subsidies this because the money is needed and better spent for law enforcement and habitat programs .I mean the whole point to donating venison or deer is a philanthropic thing and not something you should be paid to do it a "DONATION" and as such the cost of the tag processing and even the gas and time to do is a tax deduction as it is a donation and if it is compensated it is a paid program and no longer a tax deduction.
I think despite all of the hopeful thinking and a big wish list we all have, some of these things listed are not and should not be high on our presentation list to the NRC .I mean seriously why would the state pay for our extra tags and processing fees? I know in the perfect world that would be great .But this is the real world and cost reduction and herd reduction or control <---{this includes takeing of more bucks not just does}/ habitat improvement rules will likely get a real good look spending money and freebies are not high on the adjenda .
I'm just pointing this out as our attack should be realistic very spacific and be preceived as helping the DNR or saveing money for example "tele-check" and any rule that kills more deer with no cost to the state but actually more money to the DNR . I mean the use of high pressure water drawn into a very small pin point will cut through any rock on earth .But spraying wide and in every direction will not make a dint on any rock .
Sometimes it takes sugar to get what you want in this world even if what you give is little money or effort a yes will likely come from the powers that be for what you ask for and want is likely come quicker. So narrow the attack be spacific and be willing to give a little to get what you want !
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 25, 2009 12:06:12 GMT -5
Honestly there is one on here that is already in existence on this poll that I believe are totally waisting our time on voting for and that is the donating deer program .In these hard economic time times no one at the state level should or would vote to subsidies this because the money is needed and better spent for law enforcement and habitat programs .I mean the whole point to donating venison or deer is a philanthropic thing and not something you should be paid to do it a "DONATION" and as such the cost of the tag processing and even the gas and time to do is a tax deduction as it is a donation and if it is compensated it is a paid program and no longer a tax deduction. I think despite the hopeful thinking and a wish list we all have some of these type thing are not and should not be high on our presentation list to the NRC .I mean seriously why would the state pay for our extra tags and processing fees when in the perfect world that would be great .But this is the real world and cost reduction and herd control /improvement rules will likely get a real good look spending money and freebies are not high on the addenda . I'm just pointing this out as our attack should be realistic very spacific and be priceived as helping or saveing money for "tele-check" and any rule that kills more deer with no cost to the state but actually more money to the DNR .Sometimes it takes sugar to get you far in this world even if what you give is little a yes for what you want will likely come. The original thread was to ask for ideas. That was called "brainstorming" in problem solving. In brainstorming it is anything goes as far as what we would like to see. Thus NOTHING was culled by me. I included all suggestions. After we completed that we do a selection process to separate the wheat from the chaff as to what are our top priorities. Normally we do what is called "multi-voting" in that each member gets X amount of votes. The number of votes that members gets is Dependant of the number of items on the list. Since we had such a big list and I can only post 35 poll items on here I had to go the two polls at the beginning. That pared the items down for us and gave us one master list Now - When we identify the top selections then we can talk about what is feasible and how maybe the IDNR can implement it. We can go back and do a "brainstorming"session on each identified top item as to ideas on how to implement the selected items IF they are important to the deer herd and hunters in Indiana. But, you are correct in that we may identify sometimes that are way beyond what is feasible, at least for now. But, we never know unless we ask. This is a fun exercsie...
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Post by ribbuster on Mar 25, 2009 12:13:10 GMT -5
Woody I was editing while you posted my statment reads slightly different!
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