HOUSE BILL # 1343

So what's the change, the case length? I don't remember how it originally read.

As it reads now:
"Rifles must fire a cartridge with a bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger; have a minimum case length of 1.16 inches; and have a maximum case length of 1.625 inches."

So that means the .460 S&W Magnum would then be legal. The wildcatters will be designing or tweaking a bunch of rounds!

"The Great "PANDORA'S" box is slowly opening..... "

It's been opened. You go get your legislator and and tell them what you want. Even if the bill does not pass the DNR will react and in many cases do the deed. PCR's are legal after John Waterman put forth a bill. It also does not serve the sportsmen well as you also pit sportsmen against one another as well as those legislators who offer up the legislation. They don't like it when they put forth legislation that they have been lead to believe people want only to find others don't.

"Nefarious"was not the intent 20 years ago when a few of us suggested this option during some of the input meeting at the Statehouse, when "Big" John Olsen was the facilitator. If it became that way, it was unfortunate at the very least. From what I was able to glean from the rumor mill, it was a few who quickly said that we were advocating the use of what would normally be used out West, which was so far from the truth as to be believed only by the tragically uninformed. What was originally suggested was the use of "straight walled rifle cartridges". The word went up that high powered rifles was the quest, when in fact, nothing could have been farther from the truth. Thus it went into the political arena where it languished a quiet death. The rest is history until Kyle brought it to light again, but in a different form.

Looks like you guys were in this from day one on the PCRs.

The first I became aware of it was when Waterman introduced a bill in the legislature. That is what I called "nefarious". I was a fence rider at first until I looked and the pros and cons. The pros heavily outnumbered the cons in my mind and I pushed for adoption of the PCRs. I even went out and traded for a Ruger .44 mag Carbine.

Still against any more modification to the PCR rule.

"Looks like you guys were in this from day one on the PCRs."

Hmmmm, could be, then maybe from "year" one!

I'm not sure on any others, but I believe as proposed the .450 Bushmaster and .357 Herret would be legal as well as those that Greg mentioned. If I'm not mistaken the Bushmaster has a case length around 1.7 or 1.75" and the Herret is 1.7". I'm not sure where the .444 Marlin falls in there, but I'm thinking it's longer than 1.8".....?

I don't see a reason either way to change the maximum length, personally. Changing it wouldn't allow many other cartridges that are currently in existence and keeping it the way it is certainly isn't hurting anything. However, I do agree that doing it through the legislature isn't the right way to do it.

Obviously, not being an IN resident any longer it won't directly affect me unless I come back for gun season anyway.

The over riding difference between 20 years ago and 3 years ago on bringing in Pistol Caliber Rifles is the advent of the internet and the personal computer. 20 years ago what few personal computers there were was mostly considered as a toy or a way of keeping track of owned items.

Leave it alone it is fine as it is. Email your congressperson and tell them you do not want it. Not at all like when you had to write a letter by hand and then hope it got read.

I think the State of Indiana should concentrate on cartridge "Volume" of powder rather then on cartridge length. This would make seversal of these "Fat" wildcat cartridges questionable. After all the whole purpose of the PCR law was to make PISTOL cartridges legal for Deer Hunting as they have similar ballistics to sabot shotgun slugs.