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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 28, 2009 6:50:29 GMT -5
Good shooting or dumb luck? Not much on the boob tube so I clicked on the Outdoor Channel. Best of the West was on. Long range hunting and shooting. The first deer killed was 320 yards. Well, that is kind of long range. The gun was a 7MM mag made by Gunwerkz with a scope on it that adjusts to yardage and crosswind. Special bullet too. The last deer killed was 780 yards with a 15 mph crosswind. Good shooting or dumb luck? www.thebestofthewest.net/
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Post by swilk on Jun 28, 2009 7:00:36 GMT -5
Good shooting IMO ..... not my cup 'o tea though.
I put it into the same basket that I put baiting and high fence hunting ..... wouldnt ever tell a guy he shouldnt do it (as long as it is legal) but I just cant ever see myself doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2009 8:10:57 GMT -5
The scopes the use have elevation and windage adjustment knobs on them. the use wind meters as well. I like the show, shows what can be done by a hunter with good equipment. They get it done.
It's also amazing to see the power of one of my favorite calibers. They use a Berger Very Long Distance (VLD) bullet for the 7mm Mag. as it's the best B.C. available. Yet they often get one shot kills on some really big animals--moose and bears and elk.
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 28, 2009 8:26:08 GMT -5
I'm more impressed by those who can get within spittin distance and execute a clean silent kill with a bow. That takes skill vs a steady hand.
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Post by danf on Jun 28, 2009 8:50:28 GMT -5
I'd call it dumb shooting myself.....
The issue though is at what point do you say you've crossed the line into "long range"? Around here, long range could be considered 200 yards depending on equipment.
It's one thing to shoot at targets at 1k and beyond, but, IMHO, a COMPLETELY different thing when those targets morph into game animals.
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Post by HuntMeister on Jun 28, 2009 9:04:04 GMT -5
Definitely NOT something that would ever interest me. It just doesn't fit into my definition of hunting, more shooting than hunting. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
To your question, I would say for those who spend the money and time to do it properly it is not dumb luck, for those who do not, it would be dumb luck. This is the part of long range hunting err, SHOOTING that really concerns me. People watch these guys do it successfully on tv and think it is easy and they too can do it. To do it right requires much dedication, probably more than the average guy will put into it.
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Post by Decatur on Jun 28, 2009 9:58:52 GMT -5
Good shooting IMO ..... not my cup 'o tea though. I put it into the same basket that I put baiting and high fence hunting ..... wouldnt ever tell a guy he shouldnt do it (as long as it is legal) but I just cant ever see myself doing it.
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Post by Decatur on Jun 28, 2009 9:59:53 GMT -5
I'm more impressed by those who can get within spittin distance and execute a clean silent kill with a bow. That takes skill vs a steady hand.
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Post by hornharvester on Jun 28, 2009 10:15:42 GMT -5
If their style of hunting is legal in the state they are hunting why should-would we judge them? These guys are experts at shooting long distances and prove it.
Just remember a shot you deem to far might be a chip shot for someone else. h.h.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jun 28, 2009 17:55:31 GMT -5
To know your weapon with such exacting shots takes a whole lot of work I for one do not have a problem with it as long as the gun is legal and the means legal in the area it is being used.
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Post by indianahick on Jun 28, 2009 20:54:17 GMT -5
Not your average shooter. Lots and lots of practise.
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Post by hoosier on Jun 28, 2009 22:21:06 GMT -5
Good shooting or dumb luck? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neither. I am more prone to call it modern technology enabling what is probably a poor or average hunter to beat his chest with misplaced "pride". I share trapperdave's opinion above. www.thebestofthewest.net/
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Post by gundude on Jun 29, 2009 6:42:16 GMT -5
I love long range shooting. there is a science involved in making those kind of shots. TO call it "hunting" is laughable though...... There is no HUNT involved. Paper is one thing but game animals .... Naw not my cup of tea
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Post by dbd870 on Jun 29, 2009 7:12:06 GMT -5
To know your weapon with such exacting shots takes a whole lot of work I for one do not have a problem with it as long as the gun is legal and the means legal in the area it is being used. Agreed.
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Post by tickman1961 on Jun 29, 2009 7:46:19 GMT -5
Wheres a prairie dog town when you need one?
Long range shooting is good practice for predator and pest control and takes much skill to attain a level of consistency much like any other shooting sport.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2009 8:51:16 GMT -5
...... There is no HUNT involved If so, how do they get their selves in position to even attempt those shots? ? Seems to be a lot different than pulling up to a shooting bench and unloading gobs of assessories to shoot a hole in a paper target. It may not be your cup of tea, but you can't take down an animal like those guys do on TV without hunting for them. They make incredible shots.....period. My hats off to them for being able to do so, because I have enough experience to know that even with the best in equipment, most people won't make those shots.
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Post by trapperdave on Jun 29, 2009 9:13:38 GMT -5
I never had a problem gettin 1/4- 1/2 mile from a buck.....
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Post by gundude on Jun 29, 2009 9:44:07 GMT -5
...... There is no HUNT involved If so, how do they get their selves in position to even attempt those shots? ? Seems to be a lot different than pulling up to a shooting bench and unloading gobs of assessories to shoot a hole in a paper target. It may not be your cup of tea, but you can't take down an animal like those guys do on TV without hunting for them. They make incredible shots.....period. My hats off to them for being able to do so, because I have enough experience to know that even with the best in equipment, most people won't make those shots. Most people shouldnt even try that shot......... scratch that. NOBODY should try it... If you are just slightly off you have a wounded game animal. Thats not what hunting is about... Of course your knowledge wisdom and expertise far outways mine so I may be wrong.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2009 11:20:41 GMT -5
I never had a problem gettin 1/4- 1/2 mile from a buck..... Me either.....don't have a problem killing one from 15 yds. with a bow either. GD, yes, your wrong. The guys on that show make those shoots consistantly. Some people can, some can't. They can. Using your analogy, the military wouldn't need snipers and long range weapons in the arsenal, because they shouldn't engage targets from other than close range? You may not agree with it, but you should be able to give the guys their due. They can make those shoots and have the experience to do them with consistancy.
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Post by gundude on Jun 29, 2009 12:03:01 GMT -5
its SHOTS not shoots........ ANYWAY...I can make those "shots" as well. I do it all the time. 8 out of 10 are right in there. It's the 2 shots that aren't in there that causes a problem... And how in the heck could you draw a parallel between hunting and long range sniping in the military? ?? War is a necessary evil and a wounded enemy is just one less to worry about. . A wounded game animal is not the same thing by a LONG SHOT... ( pardon the pun there oh wise one!
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