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Post by Decatur on Jul 23, 2009 10:24:47 GMT -5
Ya, THAT'S what I'm laughing at, poachers.
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Post by trapperdave on Jul 23, 2009 11:40:24 GMT -5
Couldn't have said it better! Do you really see humor in someone poaching a deer with or without a light from someone elses property? That's weird in it's self. aint talkin about poaching. Talking about shining a light and LOOKING at something.
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Post by trapperdave on Jul 23, 2009 11:42:48 GMT -5
youre using the same "logic" the anti-gun crowd uses. We should outlaw guns so that LE knows anyone in possesion of one is a criminal, they wont have to ask to see your Permit if your armed
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Post by raporter on Jul 23, 2009 13:50:05 GMT -5
Hey, how about we pass a law that all spotlights have to be registered and all spotlighter have to have a permit.
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Post by firstwd on Jul 23, 2009 14:32:30 GMT -5
...SIGNED TIRED OF LOSING BC,s to spot lighters bust em all I believe this would be the joke we see in the statement.
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Post by jkd on Jul 23, 2009 16:54:08 GMT -5
I do believe it is being pushed by hunters who don't want deer shined on the land they control. So, explain to me the logic in why someone should be allowed to shine property they neither own nor have permission to hunt on during deer firearms season? Again, from personal experience, I don't want to have to worry about getting shot hunting on my own property just because it borders a county road, every time some yahoo in a pickup comes down shining my hayfield when I'm in the woods on the other side... Kentucky seems to have figured this one out...
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Post by throbak on Jul 23, 2009 17:20:27 GMT -5
it ain't no joke a friend said you want to see the buck off your place the Ahole who shot him showing it to all over his cell I had watched this Buck for 3 yrs on my farm POACHED BY SPOT LIGHTERS AND CAUGHT big deal caught 1 yr later in KY last year Buck I had 10 trail cam pics of poached but I got this one got back to his home turf and died spotlighted and shot from road the LE cant chaise all who shine cause there not all illegal BUT if illegal they could again if you shine your BUSTED the middle ground is hard antlers no shinning
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Post by Decatur on Jul 23, 2009 17:45:24 GMT -5
...SIGNED TIRED OF LOSING BC,s to spot lighters bust em all I believe this would be the joke we see in the statement. EXACTLY!!
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Post by throbak on Jul 23, 2009 18:22:44 GMT -5
I must be thicker in the head than a hog is in the A but I dont see the joke
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Post by duff on Jul 23, 2009 18:26:38 GMT -5
I do believe it is being pushed by hunters who don't want deer shined on the land they control. So, explain to me the logic in why someone should be allowed to shine property they neither own nor have permission to hunt on during deer firearms season? Again, from personal experience, I don't want to have to worry about getting shot hunting on my own property just because it borders a county road, every time some yahoo in a pickup comes down shining my hayfield when I'm in the woods on the other side... Kentucky seems to have figured this one out... I ask why shouldn't they be able to? If I am driving down the road during the day I can look on your property or anyone elses for that matter. Why is a beam from a flashlight any differnt? Most people are more likely to get shot by the neighbor or who is deer hunting on the fence line. Much less public hunting land. Should we outlaw that too? Lets place a 100 yard limit from hunting property lines. and No hunting within 100 yards of anther hunter while on public land. I've been shined while hunting before and survived just like you did. Those guys were breaking the law and I did inform my local CO at the time. These guys were hunting the land next to my uncle's so it wasn't hard to tell them who it was. Lets make the hunter orange requirements a bit more agressive if we want to slow down the hunting murders due to careless hunters. Lets include bow hunting as there are squirell hunters out there pointing guns upin trees... I still think it is flat silly we want to ban spotlighting just because a few people don't want anyone to look at the land they control. Like most laws it originates in greed and obsession.
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Post by firstwd on Jul 23, 2009 20:23:57 GMT -5
I must be thicker in the head than a hog is in the A but I dont see the joke The point being, how did you or anyone else "lose" any deer, let alone Boone and Crockett bucks to spotlighters? Those deer may have been killed by Poachers, in which case every person in the State lost them. The deer in Indiana belong to the State of Indiana, unless they are on private deer farms. If you are getting deer poached off your private deer farm then there are a lot of other laws being broken and you can actually sue them for property damage.
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Post by danf on Jul 23, 2009 21:04:23 GMT -5
it ain't no joke a friend said you want to see the buck off your place the Ahole who shot him showing it to all over his cell I had watched this Buck for 3 yrs on my farm POACHED BY SPOT LIGHTERS AND CAUGHT big deal caught 1 yr later in KY last year Buck I had 10 trail cam pics of poached but I got this one got back to his home turf and died spotlighted and shot from road the LE cant chaise all who shine cause there not all illegal BUT if illegal they could again if you shine your BUSTED the middle ground is hard antlers no shinning Hey, can I give you a tip? That's EXTREMELY hard to read- please figure out where the period key is. Getting your point across is hard enough at times on forums like this. When there is no hint of proper grammar in a post then a lot of times it's a waste of bandwidth since it gets skipped. Please don't think I'm trying to make a personal attack; I'm simply trying to point out that you'll get your point across a whole lot easier if you proof-read before you hit the "post reply" button.
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 24, 2009 7:52:21 GMT -5
So far the only viable idea that's been presented is to limit spotlighting to non-hunting months, which seems to be a reasonable compromise, and is the only workable middle ground. All the other arguments are only creating a circle of finger pointing.
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Post by tickman1961 on Jul 24, 2009 10:27:24 GMT -5
Spotlighting is not illegal and should not become illegal, and I can't understand folks wanting more government regulations controlling law abiding citizens.
Poaching has always been illegal and should remain illegal, an animal can be poached without the aid of a spotlight.
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Post by duff on Jul 24, 2009 14:00:05 GMT -5
Spotlighting is not illegal and should not become illegal, and I can't understand folks wanting more government regulations controlling law abiding citizens. Poaching has always been illegal and should remain illegal, an animal can be poached without the aid of a spotlight. EXACTLY!!!!
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Post by throbak on Jul 24, 2009 17:17:40 GMT -5
seems to me that most answering to this thread dont live where they hunt
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Post by raporter on Jul 24, 2009 19:25:19 GMT -5
Spotlighting is not illegal and should not become illegal, and I can't understand folks wanting more government regulations controlling law abiding citizens. Poaching has always been illegal and should remain illegal, an animal can be poached without the aid of a spotlight. Seems simple enough to me. If you think it is wrong, don't do it.
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Post by raporter on Jul 24, 2009 19:26:55 GMT -5
seems to me that most answering to this thread dont live where they hunt Can't speak for anyone but me and I walk to my stands.
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Post by freedomhunter on Jul 25, 2009 8:42:38 GMT -5
I do believe it is being pushed by hunters who don't want deer shined on the land they control. So, explain to me the logic in why someone should be allowed to shine property they neither own nor have permission to hunt on during deer firearms season? Again, from personal experience, I don't want to have to worry about getting shot hunting on my own property just because it borders a county road, every time some yahoo in a pickup comes down shining my hayfield when I'm in the woods on the other side... Kentucky seems to have figured this one out... I would agree with this. I think spotlighting is being done less with trail cams being a new way to see what is on your hunting ground. Whatever happened to traditional scouting, anyway? If you are hunting a particular buck why would you shine him or put a cam in his face, I would rather leave him alone then kill him in season.
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Post by trapperdave on Jul 25, 2009 9:18:51 GMT -5
how would you even know of his existance then? Its a harmless beam of light, nothing more.
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