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Post by vectrix on May 6, 2010 14:16:26 GMT -5
This is almost certainly false info. How does it make sense to have a OBR and then say we need to kill more deer? Here's an idea that would work for everyone; Make youth 1 week and 2 weekends longs starting the same time as usual. Add a firearms portion to ML season for antlerless only. On top of that, sell the tags for these new seasons at a discount of say around $10. Nobody would argue about the youth portion and the late gun would not be interfering with a thing. There are quite a few guys around who have not taken up ML hunting that would love to be out at that time of year.
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Post by deerman1 on May 6, 2010 21:27:57 GMT -5
Honestly I think there are things in the works that not one person out side the DNR has an idea that are going to happen . I think we should just all take pause and stop guessing what will happen .Because the one thing I have learned is that most of the time people when all things like this shake out it is almost never the worst case scenario or the the best one it is usually . Remember that not one committee like the stakeholders or NRC set the rules they just talk about them and make suggestions ultimately the DNR will do what it wants to right wrong or indifferent . So we might live longer not stressing over hearsay and posturing from extremists from some club that has passed its useful days.
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Post by racktracker on May 7, 2010 6:03:28 GMT -5
This is almost certainly false info. How does it make sense to have a OBR and then say we need to kill more deer? Good question. Someone counted up and said that we could kill over 400 anterless deer in the state but ONLY ONE BUCK. The IDNR needs to back off this OBR to get hunters in the woods to kill more deer, including does. Yes, I know it is a "5 year trial", but these are very trying times for our Indiana deer herd. Just IMHO - Youth - I don't think a week of youth will help. They would probably only get to hunt the weekends anyway due to school during the week. Maybe two weekends? Add a firearms portion to ML season - I think that they should leave the muzzleloader season alone or extend it to the end of the year. Put an antlerless only week (9 days encompassing two weekends) in early or late. Early would be better at getting the job done. Tag discount - Yes sir ree bob! |
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Post by racktracker on May 7, 2010 6:16:47 GMT -5
I think that the lady "mispoke" or took a comment out of context. My learned opinion is that the IDNR has evaluated, re-evaluated and is in the process of re-evaluating it all over again the stakeholders input, the survey numbers, the emails received, the letters recieved, the deer hunter input from last year to the NRC and the phone calls from concerned deer hunters. I think it took awhile for this to get out ot the the state's deer hunters and a lot of them are starting to wake up to how big changes could impact their deer hunting. The sleeping deer hunter giant (which is the bread and butter customer of the IDNR) is awakening.  I think that we need to relax and let the IDNR do it's job. I have faith that they will do what is best for the deer herd and our deer hunting. Besides with it being this late in the game there will be NO new changes this year. It will be business as usual this year. |
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Post by cambygsp on May 7, 2010 9:18:11 GMT -5
I don't know where the 25% came from but that is a very aggressive number. my opinion is that it will take MANY rule and regulatiuon changes to reach that goal, and even then if hunters don't have access to lands it will never get accomplished.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 7, 2010 12:27:55 GMT -5
I think that the lady "mispoke" or took a comment out of context. My learned opinion is that the IDNR has evaluated, re-evaluated and is in the process of re-evaluating it all over again the stakeholders input, the survey numbers, the emails received, the letters recieved, the deer hunter input from last year to the NRC and the phone calls from concerned deer hunters. I think it took awhile for this to get out ot the the state's deer hunters and a lot of them are starting to wake up to how big changes could impact their deer hunting. The sleeping deer hunter giant (which is the bread and butter customer of the IDNR) is awakening. I think that we need to relax and let the IDNR do it's job. I have faith that they will do what is best for the deer herd and our deer hunting. Besides with it being this late in the game there will be NO new changes this year. It will be business as usual this year. Pretty well a spot on post. I think that they are very busy separating the wheat from the chaff. Too much chaff and not enough wheat.. We all need to be patient a little while longer. |
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Post by Woody Williams on May 7, 2010 13:04:53 GMT -5
POST SCRIPT.....
With this not getting done in time for this year's season I have to wonder if:
1) The IDNR has our nemisis Rep. Friend in the information loop?
If so..
2) If Rep. Friend is satisfied with waiting a year?
OR
3) If Rep. Friend will try another end around run?
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Post by deerman1 on May 7, 2010 16:14:48 GMT -5
I think that the lady "mispoke" or took a comment out of context. My learned opinion is that the IDNR has evaluated, re-evaluated and is in the process of re-evaluating it all over again the stakeholders input, the survey numbers, the emails received, the letters received, the deer hunter input from last year to the NRC and the phone calls from concerned deer hunters. I think it took a while for this to get out to the the state's deer hunters and a lot of them are starting to wake up to how big changes could impact their deer hunting. The sleeping deer hunter giant (which is the bread and butter customer of the IDNR) is awakening. I think that we need to relax and let the IDNR do it's job. I have faith that they will do what is best for the deer herd and our deer hunting. Besides with it being this late in the game there will be NO new changes this year. It will be business as usual this year. Pretty well a spot on post. I think that they are very busy separating the wheat from the chaff. Too much chaff and not enough wheat.. We all need to be patient a little while longer. Also X2 for me as well . I think that they are now realizing that a quick unwanted or unpopular shift in laws that would go against an ever rising tide of discontentment by a massive throng of average hunters over hunting access ,too many complicating seasons and laws , leaving the the OBR in place ,and the large amount of money involved in tag purchases that are required too shoot the number of deer that they want shot is going to push good deer hunters from the woods .After all despite the antlers or nubbins the hundreds of thousands of buck in this state are just deer the same as a doe ,they eat ,breed ,tear up crop ,rub trees ,and cause as many if not more accidents by their annual mating ritual than the doe herd does all year. They are just deer . I believe that the simple reintroduction of some sort of second buck being available to keep your better hunters in the woods coupled with some sort of combo tag that has a buck tag and doe tag all in one that is good for the whole season at a cut rate price would in its own right raise deer harvests over a few years to where they want them add a xbow to archery and draw in thousands of hunters who simply do not for whatever reason want to shoot vertical bows and this would be the huge win that the DNR is looking for . The IDNR can not loose any more hunters and they defiantly need new hunters and hunter representation in the NRC meetings. I will also wait and trust in the DNR to DO WHAT IS RIGHT by the good but average hunters in this state. So for now I set and wait till the cows all come home maybe later this summer or for next season for sure. |
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Post by tenring on May 11, 2010 5:43:16 GMT -5
Agree, patience can be and is a virtue.
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Post by retnuhreed on May 13, 2010 20:28:37 GMT -5
I had a lot of hunts last year where I didn't see a single deer. Maybe those days will go up by 25%
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