Post by omegahunter on Aug 9, 2010 19:41:16 GMT -5
You might try knocking it down and spraying a couple weeks later. I think you would get better coverage to kill everything in the path instead of just the upper canopy of weeds. I am sure that there are some on here that deal with these kinds of matters for a living though.
Depends on how high the weeds are. In my experience if the weeds real dense or are 2' or taller then I mow and wait a week, then spray, if less than 2' and not too dense then spray them with out mowing. Usually I mow and wait a week then spray. Doing this way gets all of the weeds and makes it easier to put in your plots. h.h.
Round Up is taken in by the leaves, and wouldn't pose that big of a threat to new growth, especially after a rain. That's why you don't mow something real short and then spray it. You're just wasting your money, believe me, I found out the hard way years ago! I'm not talking about bush hogging, I think you guys are spot on in regards to bush hogging and then spraying. I'm just providing an example of why I don't think it would be a dampener to new growth.
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You can spray and then drill 2 hours later. You just have to make sure you get a good amount of product on the vegatation you want to kill, because you can't go back abd spot spray places you missed. Roundup works on growing vegatation....if weeds have reached their peak, then you'll need to mow to stimulate addfitional growth for the chemicals to be taken in.
You wanting bare ground or just kill broadleaf weeds? 2-4-D will get 'weeds' not the grass. Too the residual effect of spraying could make starting over replanting whatever your doing very slow .
There is no residual effect from Roundup. It neutralizes when it hits the soil. Shouldn't be any reason you can't replant in a coule of days after shooting roundup. Although I would wait until you see the weeds turn, before inter seeding.
You guys are correct about no residual effect with Roundup. However if you also use 2-4-D there is a waiting time of 1 to 2 weeks, depending how heavy you spray, before planting. I found that out a couple of years ago when I got in a hurry. Used that combination to burndown weeds before planting soybeans. Had to replant a fifty acre field. Don't rush things, it costs!!
I should have made it clear I meant other chemicals besides roundup having residual effect,2-4-D and such as Escort or other pre -emergants are worse. Ive seen some people apply so much chemical such as Roundup more than application rate to make it bare ground for a long time,or until in rains enough
Post by featherduster on Aug 10, 2010 20:18:57 GMT -5
Woody:my daughter in law has a doctorate in horticultural studies so I have had this conversation with her, here is what she has told me. If you want to kill all vegetation them use ROUNDUP or a generic brand,mix it a bit on the strong side if working with rough tall growth. Apply during a dry period (no dew). Once Roundup makes contact with green vegetation it begins to destroy the plants ability to photosynthesize. It is best to apply to uncut full vegetation (the more of the plant you contact the better). Avoid young trees that you want to save. For single plants that you cannot afford to spray because of drift spray damage you can use a rubber glove and a sponge dipped in Roundup to wipe the plant down. The best time to apply Roundup is in the fall when plants begin to draw down into their roots that would be in September before a frost. 24D was designed to work best on broad leaf plants it will not do long term damage to grasses.
Dang.....no real need to make this more difficult than need be.....Generic roundup is probably the simplist and easiest chemicals to use for wildlife work. Just by a jug and mix with water and use. There are sufficants that will make it better, but your not trying for prefect because your farming for deer/turkeys and not a crop. I use a quart per tank (55 gal.) and get a good kill on weeds/grasses. You can spray dry weeds and let dry for 2 hours and then plant with a drill and get good results. Doesn't matter if you get some second growth weeds, as deer will eat those too. Now, if you doing an expensive clover patch, you might want to kill and then kill again three weeks later, then prepare your soil for planting. If you just spray fescue or heavy weeds and plant nothing, it creates pretty good deer habitat.
Woody, That is exactly what i plant. I had my turnips in the middle with oats on one side and wheat on the other. The deer usually hit the wheat or oats first and then the turnips, then back to the wheat.
I also planted some Lab Lab this year and its coming along real nice. Deer are starting to browse it now.
Oats work good early but are killed off by the first good hard frost or freeze. Wheat will keep them coming all winter long. If you plant oats just buy a bag of feed oats at Rural King and plant them. No need to buy the high priced food plot oats unless you feel its better. My experience there is no difference. Hit the plots with some pelletized lime and plenty of good fertilizer and the deer will be there all season long. Good luck, h.h.
PS. I planted my turnips Sunday and we got 1.5" of rain today.......