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Post by deerman on Feb 17, 2011 7:35:39 GMT -5
Kinda shocking to me that 56% of the firearm harvest was bucks. Figured it would be ALOT lower than that. Nah, many hunters take their buck and call it a season - which is their right to do. If they would make the firearm tag either sex, it's likely these numbers would be reversed. Probly even more so.
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Post by tickman1961 on Feb 17, 2011 9:21:38 GMT -5
Nah, many hunters take their buck and call it a season - which is their right to do. If they would make the firearm tag either sex, it's likely these numbers would be reversed. Probly even more so. Either sex would enable one tag only buyers the option to take a doe - sounds simple enough but sometimes common sense ain't so common.
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Post by js2397 on Feb 17, 2011 9:24:17 GMT -5
Kinda shocking to me that 56% of the firearm harvest was bucks. Figured it would be ALOT lower than that. The firearms harvest was 54% antlerless and 46% antlered.
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Post by boonechaser on Feb 17, 2011 10:44:57 GMT -5
Think the 56% include's button buck's. And yes agree either sex firearm license make alot of sense. WHICH MEAN'S DNR WON"T CHANGE IT. Lol!!!!
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Post by racktracker on Feb 19, 2011 9:13:43 GMT -5
A few interesting points .
1) Proof positive that what we are all seeing in our own little corner of the deer woods does not translate past our deer woods. Pretty well shows that the herd (as a whole) in the state is still growing.
2) There are more PCR hunters than the previous records showed – now that the books have been updated. That number will climb more and more every year
3) Please look at the age graph on page 11. The yearling buck % trend that started back in 1999 has just made a 4% UP blip to 40%. What caused that after a very steady decline? We are back at the national whitetail producing states average for % of yearling bucks taken.
Any comments on this?
I’ll comment more when I find time to really look over this report. Chad did a good job.
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Post by drs on Feb 19, 2011 10:14:41 GMT -5
My Sister, who lives in Clinton County, Indiana, e-mailed me saying she saw 30 Deer "gleaning" a cornfield, while on her way to work last week.
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Post by shooterbuck on Feb 19, 2011 20:41:24 GMT -5
My Sister, who lives in Clinton County, Indiana, e-mailed me saying she saw 30 Deer "gleaning" a cornfield, while on her way to work last week. Up here that is a decent yard of deer but I know the are a real well since I live less than 6 miles from the Clinton co.Line . That is likely every deer in a 2 mile radius or more mile area up here that is how they yard up in these large open areas with no deer, then a small herd then a few or several miles and another small herd. Its common to see it like that up here .
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Post by lugnutz on Feb 20, 2011 0:37:08 GMT -5
IMO, the our DNR needs to combo a buck and doe tag, and charge $50, then $12.50 for each antlerless tag their after.....Your buck and done hunters will be more willing to shoot does since they've done forked out the $$...As of now, they have absolutely no incentive to harvest does.
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Post by drs on Feb 20, 2011 6:52:07 GMT -5
My Sister, who lives in Clinton County, Indiana, e-mailed me saying she saw 30 Deer "gleaning" a cornfield, while on her way to work last week. Up her that isw a decent yard of deer but I know the are a real well since I live less than 6 miles from the Clinton co.Line . That is likely every deer in a 2 mile radius or more mile area up here that is how they yard up in these large open areas with no deer, then a small herd then a few or several miles and another small herd. Its common to see it like that up here . That's what I thought too. It is very flat country up in Clinton Co. Also they don't have as many woody areas, that exists in Southern Indiana or here in Kentucky. Most of the area is farmed and with modern combines, very little corn or soybeans are left for Deer or other species of willdlife to feed on during the winter months. Whenever you see Deer "Yard-up" that means their food supply is not all that adequate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2011 8:27:38 GMT -5
David, agriculture land can easily support 75 deer per sq. mile. Most areas.will have closer to 30 or less. So, there is no shortage of food especially when you know that feet will consume more browse than anything else 60% of their daily intake .
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Post by drs on Feb 20, 2011 8:33:58 GMT -5
David, agriculture land can easily support 75 deer per sq. mile. Most areas.will have closer to 30 or less. So, there is no shortage of food especially when you know that feet will consume more browse than anything else 60% of their daily intake . If & only if the farmer leave some ag. crops in the fields. The areas, I've seen in my County, looks like the fields have been picked clean, with nothing left for the native wildlife species.
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Post by racktracker on Feb 21, 2011 9:52:26 GMT -5
The button buck percentage is the key. Unfortunately with the "kill all the anterless deer" stuff going on that number/percentage will go up. The IDNR needs to educate hunetrs on how to identify button bucks before they pull the trigger.
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Post by Decatur on Feb 21, 2011 11:03:12 GMT -5
I know if I were a farmer I'd get every single piece of grain I could from my land. Deer were here long before the land was covered in crops.
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Post by drs on Feb 21, 2011 11:35:42 GMT -5
I know if I were a farmer I'd get every single piece of grain I could from my land. Deer were here long before the land was covered in crops. Very true, however there was more native habitat existence back then before modern ag. pratices or farms. Before these current high tech. farming implements there was always SOME crop left in the field + fence rolls had more cover & travel lanes for wildlife.
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Post by Decatur on Feb 21, 2011 12:31:58 GMT -5
There used to be no farms, or very few in Indiana!
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Post by drs on Feb 21, 2011 12:54:34 GMT -5
There used to be no farms, or very few in Indiana! Far less People too. Also no Wal-Marts or I-69 HWY's and such. The habitat of Deer is shrinking each & every year. This forces more Deer into a smaller area. No wonder many are seeing more Deer, as they have no where to "spread out" their population, or hide.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 20:01:53 GMT -5
Doom and gloom, yet we are living the best of times when it comes to deer. David, have you ever seen a deer that straved to death?
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Post by shooterbuck on Feb 21, 2011 20:20:03 GMT -5
Up her that isw a decent yard of deer but I know the are a real well since I live less than 6 miles from the Clinton co.Line . That is likely every deer in a 2 mile radius or more mile area up here that is how they yard up in these large open areas with no deer, then a small herd then a few or several miles and another small herd. Its common to see it like that up here . That's what I thought too. It is very flat country up in Clinton Co. Also they don't have as many woody areas, that exists in Southern Indiana or here in Kentucky. Most of the area is farmed and with modern combines, very little corn or soybeans are left for Deer or other species of willdlife to feed on during the winter months. Whenever you see Deer "Yard-up" that means their food supply is not all that adequate. It is the snow cover more than the food supply we have on the average 10 to 12 weeks of snow cover 6 inches or nore with what is usually a good cover of ice under it . The does here average 125= 150# FD and the bucks 1.5 year old bucksare on the average 150-160 # fd with a`few under that mark .But the 3.5 on up bucks will go easily 200 plus most of the time . Oddly we do have good food supplies but it usually covered deep in the winter from late Nov early /Dec till March. We just have way fewer deer so there is plenty of food, but getting to it is hard on them . Our local paper puts the local deer stats checked in and if I get a chance I will post an average week of deer harvest up he you will be woowed at the weights but laugh at the numbers taken . Heck by gun season our .5 year olds will go at a low 75# fd up to 100 # fd . On a side not our deer yaerd for food and also for cover as well since maybe in a 3 mile square there is only a creek line or a` 50 acre woods. So they all go to the nearest cover with a good supply of feed. They also do it for protection up here coyotes are king in the open areas with little cover so its hard for the yote to win with so many eyes on them .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 20:28:33 GMT -5
Deer finding food under 6" of snow is not a problem.
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Post by shooterbuck on Feb 21, 2011 20:31:50 GMT -5
David, agriculture land can easily support 75 deer per sq. mile. Most areas.will have closer to 30 or less. So, there is no shortage of food especially when you know that feet will consume more browse than anything else 60% of their daily intake . If & only if the farmer leave some Ag. crops in the fields. The areas, I've seen in my County, looks like the fields have been picked clean, with nothing left for the native wildlife species. Up her spillage is huge and it is very common to see hundreds of whole or broken ears of corn laying in every Field up here We deal with so many acer of crop here that they have little time to scrape ground level and the high yield beans tend to have pods just an inch above the ground and farmers hate to pick up rocks in bean or corn heads I know` e do not lay the head on the ground in some of our fields because a 5 or 10 pond rock can cost us thousands and they turn up here often after big rains.
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