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Post by stumpy on Jan 22, 2012 21:45:07 GMT -5
the high powered rifle season needs to STOP
we let the young bucks go or one that might make a good shooter next year only to hear it has been shot by a high powered rifle.Come on we pay to hunt the deer and these jerks come in with high powered rifles after seseason and kill all of the deer.
Why even try to have a good herd
DNR YOU NEED TO STOP THIS IT IS NOT RIGHT
the does have fawns inside them this time of the year
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 22, 2012 22:47:54 GMT -5
T.I.P. hotline if you have a poaching problem in your area. (Turn them in.)
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Post by esshup on Jan 23, 2012 1:57:31 GMT -5
stumpy, where are you at that you have a high powered rifle season? Your location isn't listed in your profile.
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 23, 2012 5:25:30 GMT -5
I think he's talking about Dep. Tags.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 6:37:49 GMT -5
Sounds like an issue he needs to discuss with the farmer or owner of the land he hunts. DNR doesn't automatically give out Dep tags without a valid reason.
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 23, 2012 8:37:32 GMT -5
arent dep tags issued in the summer and to be used prior to season?...when all the depredation occurs...
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Post by hyster on Jan 23, 2012 13:04:08 GMT -5
i thought it was in the summer also. I had a buddy that asked me to go a couple years ago and declined, it was like tempts in the 90's. went fishing instead. may have changed since then dont really know.
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Post by esshup on Jan 23, 2012 17:43:06 GMT -5
I went and talked with the regional deer biologist about those tags last month. How they are issued, and governed really opened my eyes. Sounds like an issue he needs to discuss with the farmer or owner of the land he hunts. DNR doesn't automatically give out Dep tags without a valid reason. IMO, not true. The tags are issued just because a farmer called and said that they have over $500 of damage. No verification is done by the biologist until after 10 deer per 100 acres is killed and you (the farmer) calls again for more tags. If you are a landowner, and have corn/beans, all you need to do is when you see the deer damage, call the biologist. They ask you if you have over $500 worth of damage. If the answer is yes, they issue 10 tags for every 100 acres that you own. They recommend that you donate the meat or use it, but you aren't required to do so. They also (at least the one that I talked to) tell you to use what is normally used (weapon wise) to hunt deer in Indiana during the firearms season, BUT, using a CF rifle is legal - any caliber. This biologist preferred that if you were to use a CF rifle, that you hunt from a tree stand. You are supposed to report back to the biologist how many and of what sex were killed, and you are supposed to turn in any racks. If you kill your alotted deer, and still have crop damage, then and only then does the biologist come out and inspect for damage. If they see $500 or more in damage, they issue another 10 tags per 100 acres and so on until you don't call them again. If it's another crop besides corn or beans (sunflowers, orchard, tree farm, etc.) then they come out to inspect the damage before issuing any tags. The one that I talked to was very reluctant to give out tags if the landowner didn't allow hunting on their property. The people that will be actually doing the shooting have to be listed on the form that the landowner fills out and sends in to the biologist before the tags are issued. Typically, there is no set season, but it normally runs in the spring after the crops have sprouted until the crops are harvested. So, a friend manages a farm that is just over 3,000 acres. Just think how many deer could be removed if he called....... What got me is that due to budget cuts, 16 regions have been cut to 15 regions due to a deer biologist leaving and not being replaced. So, the biologist doesn't physically step foot on the farm until the 2nd round of tags is requested. No tags are issued for farms less than 100 acres. |
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Post by M4Madness on Jan 23, 2012 18:33:26 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet that most corn damage attributed to deer is really caused by raccoons.
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Post by nimrodder on Jan 23, 2012 20:44:42 GMT -5
This jerk is looking forward to filling some DEP tags  . |
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Post by throbak on Jan 24, 2012 6:20:13 GMT -5
Down here the bio inspects the damage befor any tags are issued I know that for a fact
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Post by lugnutz on Jan 24, 2012 7:55:19 GMT -5
Most of the farmers that i know of in Posey County, aren't allowed to use DEP tags. The folks that lease the property for deer hunting won't sign a contract if the farmer ellects to use them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2012 10:11:53 GMT -5
I went and talked with the regional deer biologist about those tags last month. How they are issued, and governed really opened my eyes. Sounds like an issue he needs to discuss with the farmer or owner of the land he hunts. DNR doesn't automatically give out Dep tags without a valid reason. IMO, not true. The tags are issued just because a farmer called and said that they have over $500 of damage. No verification is done by the biologist until after 10 deer per 100 acres is killed and you (the farmer) calls again for more tags. If you are a landowner, and have corn/beans, all you need to do is when you see the deer damage, call the biologist. They ask you if you have over $500 worth of damage. If the answer is yes, they issue 10 tags for every 100 acres that you own. They recommend that you donate the meat or use it, but you aren't required to do so. They also (at least the one that I talked to) tell you to use what is normally used (weapon wise) to hunt deer in Indiana during the firearms season, BUT, using a CF rifle is legal - any caliber. This biologist preferred that if you were to use a CF rifle, that you hunt from a tree stand. You are supposed to report back to the biologist how many and of what sex were killed, and you are supposed to turn in any racks. If you kill your alotted deer, and still have crop damage, then and only then does the biologist come out and inspect for damage. If they see $500 or more in damage, they issue another 10 tags per 100 acres and so on until you don't call them again. If it's another crop besides corn or beans (sunflowers, orchard, tree farm, etc.) then they come out to inspect the damage before issuing any tags. The one that I talked to was very reluctant to give out tags if the landowner didn't allow hunting on their property. The people that will be actually doing the shooting have to be listed on the form that the landowner fills out and sends in to the biologist before the tags are issued. Typically, there is no set season, but it normally runs in the spring after the crops have sprouted until the crops are harvested. So, a friend manages a farm that is just over 3,000 acres. Just think how many deer could be removed if he called....... What got me is that due to budget cuts, 16 regions have been cut to 15 regions due to a deer biologist leaving and not being replaced. So, the biologist doesn't physically step foot on the farm until the 2nd round of tags is requested. No tags are issued for farms less than 100 acres. I can guarantee you that any farmer that has corn and beans has deer damage. $500 would be a sure bet in any situation. Say your a working man, and you get paid on Friday, why not throw $500 out the window on the way home??? The only factor is is worse or less than the prior year. If an area biologist has made multiple trips to verify that damage, he should know the history. Last time I saw a number of permits issued, it was a very small number statewide. I'd bet it still is. |
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Post by troutline on Jan 24, 2012 19:23:13 GMT -5
So if you fill DEP tags your a jerk? I have a farmer that will only let me hunt his farm if I hunt the DEP season, then I get to hunt the rest of the seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2012 19:26:12 GMT -5
He is probably bashing Muzzleloaders.
Heck, a lot of guys take 200 yard shots with todays muzzleloaders. LOL
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Post by tickman1961 on Feb 6, 2012 15:43:39 GMT -5
the high powered rifle season needs to STOP we let the young bucks go or one that might make a good shooter next year only to hear it has been shot by a high powered rifle.Come on we pay to hunt the deer and these jerks come in with high powered rifles after seseason and kill all of the deer. Why even try to have a good herd DNR YOU NEED TO STOP THIS IT IS NOT RIGHT the does have fawns inside them this time of the year Or killed by a person filling their "firearm license", why blame the non existent "high powered' rifle season or depredation permit users. I saw 40 deer the other night on my 10 minute drive to and from a friends house. Deer are everywhere down here. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 6, 2012 15:59:00 GMT -5
the high powered rifle season needs to STOP we let the young bucks go or one that might make a good shooter next year only to hear it has been shot by a high powered rifle.Come on we pay to hunt the deer and these jerks come in with high powered rifles after seseason and kill all of the deer. Why even try to have a good herd DNR YOU NEED TO STOP THIS IT IS NOT RIGHT the does have fawns inside them this time of the year Or killed by a person filling their "firearm license", why blame the non existent "high powered' rifle season or depredation permit users. I saw 40 deer the other night on my 10 minute drive to and from a friends house. Deer are everywhere down here. True.. Stumpy, I am not aware of any nuisance deer permits being issued AFTER the regular season was over. |
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