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Post by jjas on Feb 12, 2013 20:45:47 GMT -5
After the King buck, I'd say B&C wants to make sure there are absolutely zero questions about the score of this deer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 20:49:40 GMT -5
True, that's why they have "certified" and "trained" scorers, that they normally trust to come to a common conclusion.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 12, 2013 20:51:18 GMT -5
I have no questions....just trying to clear the air for all the "Debbie doubter's" Wonder why the have folks video certain Deer scoring...... Rest my case again
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 12, 2013 20:54:21 GMT -5
After the King buck, I'd say B&C wants to make sure there are absolutely zero questions about the score of this deer. That would be my guess too. Wasn't that supposed to be panel scored? What happened there Btw - B & C difinitely doesn't like score shopping and I don't think another B & C scorer would rescore a deer that had been previously scored.
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Post by freedomhunter on Feb 12, 2013 21:02:27 GMT -5
Always more "expert" professionals within any certified group happens all the time nothing new
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 21:06:07 GMT -5
Greg Greg, who Debbie? Explain your FB post if you have no doubts? And having a scoring video taped is not part of a normal process, nor is it a B & C requirement, and not required to verify a score sheet.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 12, 2013 21:07:02 GMT -5
After the King buck, I'd say B&C wants to make sure there are absolutely zero questions about the score of this deer. That would be my guess too. Wasn't that supposed to be panel scored? What happened there Btw - B & C difinitely doesn't like score shopping and I don't think another B & C scorer would rescore a deer that had been previously scored. From B&C site... How and when is a trophy declared an official World's Record? The final score of a potential Boone and Crockett World's Record must be verified by either an Awards Program Judges Panel or a Special Judges Panel before it is declared a new World's Record. Awards Program Judges Panels are assembled once every three years following the close of one of the Club's triennial Awards Programs. In addition to certifying new World's Records, these panels also verify the final scores of the top 5 trophies entered in each category during the preceding three years and certify them for coveted B&C medals and certificates. Special Judges Panels are convened during the interim between Awards Program Judges Panels with the sole purpose of verifying and declaring new World's Records. In either case, two teams of two judges each measure a potential World's Record. If the scores of both teams verify the original measurement, the panel will declare it a new World's Record. If a potential World's Record is not sent in for verification by one of these two panels, it will never be declared a Boone and Crockett World's Record.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 21:10:39 GMT -5
That explains the panel scoring process. This deer hasn't gotten that far yet.
BTW this deer is not a world record at 309 but obviously will be in the top 5/3 year period.
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Post by fullrut on Feb 12, 2013 21:12:25 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Feb 12, 2013 21:27:44 GMT -5
That explains the panel scoring process. This deer hasn't gotten that far yet. BTW this deer is not a world record at 309 but obviously will be in the top 5/3 year period. It will be biggest non-typical whitetail ever killed by a hunter!!!! It may not require a "Panel Score" unless the Hunter is unhappy with a decision in measuring!!! www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_policies.asp?area=bgRecords#shopping
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 12, 2013 21:34:10 GMT -5
That explains the panel scoring process. This deer hasn't gotten that far yet. BTW this deer is not a world record at 309 but obviously will be in the top 5/3 year period. It will be biggest non-typical whitetail ever killed by a hunter!!!! It may not require a "Panel Score" unless the Hunter is unhappy with a decision in measuring!!! www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_policies.asp?area=bgRecords#shoppingNot true Greg. Any "potential WR "" MUST be panel scored. This ain't the "biggest non-typical whitetail ever killed by a hunter" until B and C panel scores it and says it is. Until then it is a "potential WR".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 21:40:26 GMT -5
LOL...correct. Then....It'll be listed as thrid in the world with a asterisk denoting it was the largest known killed by a hunter. Verses "picked up" by the two above it.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 12, 2013 22:00:24 GMT -5
Not true Greg. Any "potential WR "" MUST be panel scored. This ain't the "biggest non-typical whitetail ever killed by a hunter" until B and C panel scores it and says it is. Until then it is a "potential WR". This Deer is not a "potential WR" ....its a potential #3 all time and the biggest non-typical whitetail ever killed by a hunter!!!! I am not convinced it needs to be paneled scored for that just verified!!! I could be wrong!!! B&C WORLD'S RECORDS WHITETAIL www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/WorldRecordsDetail.asp?area=bgRecords&type=WHITETAIL
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 22:41:03 GMT -5
You said a mouth ful there. Thanks for admitting it. Here's the link you posted -- How and when is a trophy declared an official World's Record? The final score of a potential Boone and Crockett World's Record must be verified by either an Awards Program Judges Panel or a Special Judges Panel before it is declared a new World's Record. Awards Program Judges Panels are assembled once every three years following the close of one of the Club's triennial Awards Programs. In addition to certifying new World's Records, these panels also verify the final scores of the top 5 trophies entered in each category during the preceding three years and certify them for coveted B&C medals and certificates. Special Judges Panels are convened during the interim between Awards Program Judges Panels with the sole purpose of verifying and declaring new World's Records. In either case, two teams of two judges each measure a potential World's Record. If the scores of both teams verify the original measurement, the panel will declare it a new World's Record. If a potential World's Record is not sent in for verification by one of these two panels, it will never be declared a Boone and Crockett World's Record.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 12, 2013 23:12:20 GMT -5
lol.... This Deer is not a "potential WR" ....its a potential #3 all time and the biggest non-typical whitetail ever killed by a hunter!!!! If it scored in the 330 range then yes its a "potential WR".... BTW.....the "KING BUCK" was "potential WR" it was believed to have grossed more than 220 inches and could have quite possibly neted more than the current world record Milo Hanson Buck which scored 213-5/8 B&C.
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Post by bowhunterjohn on Feb 12, 2013 23:15:09 GMT -5
I sure hope it scores out by panel or official BC as teh biggest killed by a hunter, that would be cool.
However it might making finding hunting property in Huntington county very hard.
Was that shot on the Roush property ? Heard it was public land ?
I know years ago , 2004, some people that live off 224 were telling me there was a huge buck with all kind of points living in the pine woods in the saftey zone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 0:26:27 GMT -5
lol.... This Deer is not a "potential WR" ....its a potential #3 all time and the biggest non-typical whitetail ever killed by a hunter!!!! If it scored in the 330 range then yes its a "potential WR".... BTW.....the "KING BUCK" was "potential WR" it was believed to have grossed more than 220 inches and could have quite possibly neted more than the current world record Milo Hanson Buck which scored 213-5/8 B&C. Top 5 of the 3 year period, you really need to post less and read more. LOL
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 13, 2013 8:56:38 GMT -5
I just love symantics games...not.
Greg,
There are all kinds of "world and state records" that are classified by type of hunting tool used....firearm, muzzleloader, bow, crossbow, some even claim "world record by a woman", etc..." Some just claim "world record taken by a hunter" "Lots of "world records" out there.
Do you think that the B & C will just accept the local scorer's score on a "potential world record hunter killed buck"? A score that could set the hunter up for life?
If you believe that why was Tony Lovstuen and Mike Beatty's bucks B & C panel scored? Thier original scores did not indicate an "all time world record by any means" did it?
There is BIG DOLLARS involved here and as such people will cheat. B & C knows that full well as they have jerked WR status from at least one animal that was doctored. I gaurantee you that B & C and P & Y wants to look at and panel score every animal that comes close to claiming the top spot of "hunter killed world record".
Yes, the top 5 killed in each category within the three year period will be panel scored..
FWIW - I hope the score holds up in the panel scoring and it is crowned "THE world record hunter killed buck"..
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Post by swilk on Feb 13, 2013 9:03:26 GMT -5
How is the number 3 entry a "world record"?
When you go to the B&C web page right now, click on "world record" and then click on "whitetail" it comes up with the St Louis buck. Does not say a thing on that page about the #3 buck.
Does B&C officially recognize anything other than the biggest in any category?
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 13, 2013 9:11:09 GMT -5
How is the number 3 entry a "world record"? When you go to the B&C web page right now, click on "world record" and then click on "whitetail" it comes up with the St Louis buck. Does not say a thing on that page about the #3 buck. Does B&C officially recognize anything other than the biggest in any category? Sure they "recognize" all entries...down to the minimums. You bneed to buy a book to see all the names listed there. As I said the hunter killed "world records" are gold mines and as such B & C and P & Y are going to make sure they are what they say that they are. Read the following for "cheats".. www.northamericanwhitetail.com/2010/09/22/trophybucks_naw_aa203rumors/
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