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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 30, 2014 8:41:54 GMT -5
Benadryl itch stopping cream is the only thing that gave me any relief at all..
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 30, 2014 9:18:31 GMT -5
BTW - I mix my own spray. I use Bonide Termite and Carpenter ant killer concentrate. www.bonide.com/products/product.php?category_id=567Dilute it down from 13 percent to .5 percent. This goes a LONG ways.. Put it in a spray bottle and you are set to go. I always spray my turkey pop up blind inside and out as well as my clothes.
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Post by stevein on Aug 30, 2014 11:35:27 GMT -5
My biggest concern with ticks is that I share them with my family. I have never had the pleasure of seed ticks but every time I turkey hunted at Patoka Lake I ended up with about every variety of tick in Indiana. I now dose all my turkey clothes with Permethrin and have reduced the ticks to single digits.
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Post by stevein on Aug 30, 2014 11:37:54 GMT -5
Is there a way to test your clothes to see if the Permethrin is still effective?
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 30, 2014 12:32:42 GMT -5
Is there a way to test your clothes to see if the Permethrin is still effective? Go out and catch a tick and set him on your pants leg. If he dies it is still effective.. I've heard that it is good for two weeks and two washings.. So I re-spray after two weeks..
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Post by kevin1 on Aug 30, 2014 18:20:21 GMT -5
I was reaching for my garden hose one time, and brushed against a weed growing in the flowerbed near the spigot. As I finished washing my hands I suddenly felt a "crawly" sensation on my arm. Looking down I spotted what looked to be at least 100-150 tiny little ticks swarming up my arm. Now, screaming like a girl is rare for me, but my wife could attest that this time I certainly gave girls everywhere a run for their money. I frantically brushed and hosed down my arm, then ran screaming into the house headed straight for the shower. Ten minutes of near scalding water and half a bar of soap later I emerged, red as a lobster, but seed tick free. I apparently developed an allergy to most insect bites as I aged, the slightest penetration by a blood sucked gives me a welt that will itch for at least a week, and takes weeks to heal up. I now keep a bottle of 10% Permethrin on hand at all times, mixed with 9-10 parts water it's certain death for any bug.
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Post by HighCotton on Aug 30, 2014 19:44:47 GMT -5
I picked up some 10% benzocaine ointment. That stuff is working amazingly well. It's crazy how I look for a tick every time I just feel a bit of a XXXXX on my skin even though I've not seen one for days. These bitin' little s surely mess with my head!
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Post by HighCotton on Aug 30, 2014 19:47:22 GMT -5
Is there a way to test your clothes to see if the Permethrin is still effective? Thanks stevein. I had the same question. I have a feeling that for a good while my stuff will saturated about as much as the squirt bottle itself!
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 30, 2014 19:54:25 GMT -5
Is there a way to test your clothes to see if the Permethrin is still effective? Thanks stevein. I had the same question. I have a feeling that for a good while my stuff will saturated about as much as the squirt bottle itself! Spray it the night before and let it dry. I don't like to spray the clothes while on my body as it soak through the clothing pretty easily. It works wet or dry.
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Post by stevein on Aug 31, 2014 12:50:35 GMT -5
Thanks Woody. I have never had a run-in with seed ticks but I have had chiggers when I was younger. I was hoping my camo pants and shirt would still be good to go.
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Post by jackryan on Aug 31, 2014 13:22:02 GMT -5
With all the seed ticks along with chiggers, has there been any reports of Lymes Disease up in Indiana? Personally, I'd be more fearful of catching West Nile Fever (Virus) from a mosquito bite; but Lymes can be very bad causing many health issues. Any? LOL. Lyme is a lot more common than you think. I had it this year late spring early summer. In the past my wife has had it and a couple of my buddies have had it AT LEAST. Just use the permethrin liberally on your clothing to cut down the odds of getting a Lyme infected tick and it also cuts down the chance of transmission even if you do. But NOTHING makes it impossible. My wife doesn't do any of the woodsy stuff. Barely walks around the yard and she got it years before I did. Be aware of the symptoms and when you get "something weird like a cold but not a cold, like the flue but not a flue, haven't been around any one sick, never had it like this before..." go to the doctor and get the antibiotic treatment. 3 weeks of pills and you are over it. DON'T WAIT FOR IT TO JUST GET OVER IT. THEN IT COMES BACK 10X WORSE and you get all those complications you read about in the papers to scare the crap out of you.
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Post by jackryan on Aug 31, 2014 13:27:26 GMT -5
People call them seed ticks, turkey ticks, turkey lice etc. but what they really are is the larvae stage of the lone star tick. They hatch out in glob like clusters and when you are unlucky and walk into a batch you usually get several 100-200-300 of them on you. They claim the larvae doesn't carry any disease yet, but they can drive you insane with itching and the thought of having that many ticks on you. I will not go to the woods from now until a heavy frost without spraying down with permethrin and taping my pant legs shut with duct tape and tucking my shirt tail in deep. They are out in Pike county as I have found several cluster on me, but they die very quickly if you have sprayed down. I pity those that don't realize that these are out there and take a stroll though the woods in shorts and flip flops. 25 years ago we did not have these here. I remember the first time I encountered these . Mom thought I had chicken pox. I will never forget that misery. That duct tape is an awesome tip. I fully endorse that. 100% Also the boots because those little ones go right through laces like it's the front door to Walmart. Ever get one between your toes and you'll be a convert.
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Post by jackryan on Aug 31, 2014 13:31:03 GMT -5
I have yet to get the seed ticks but am traveling down by the Ohio river in the morning. I will definitely be spraying down with some 40% deet that I got at TSC. I only have the permethrin concentrate that you spray around livestock areas so I'm not spraying that toxic stuff on me. However, to me chiggers are the devil. I know that they got me when I wake up in the morning to bloody ankles and sheets. I would give up a toe to be able to not get them ever again!!!!!!! You are making a big mistake. Deet is near worthless on ticks. I don't see how in the world people come to that conclusion and I have a couple friends who say the same thing. "I won't spray that toxic stuff that really kills them on the outside of my cloths and boots but I'll spray this toxic stuff directly on my skin and really lather up in it over and over because sweat washes it right off."
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Post by jackryan on Aug 31, 2014 13:41:44 GMT -5
I stopped in and had one of these critters under the microscope thanks to a friend with Marion County Health, biologist/entomologist Matt Sinsko and his colleagues. It turns out the tick is a seed tick also known as turkey ticks or turkey mites. It is a lone star tick in the larva/nymph stage. I now get to watch for the possible symptoms of Ehrlichiosis over the next few weeks. Apparently southern Indiana has been hammered with these ticks in the last few years. I stopped at Wally world and got loaded up... Here is a recent article of a case just down the road from where I was setting tree stands: www.wbiw.com/local/archive/2014/08/washington-county-sheriff-claude-combs-became-ill-after-tick-bite.phpThis is the best stuff out there and the best value for the cost I've ever found. Been using it for years, got it at Tractor Supply. Of course since it's good, they have quit carrying it. Looking for it on line I found a greenhouse in Bloomington carrys it. Unless you use it like I do, that bottle should last a person 20 years until he starts finding out how many uses it has. www.hayneedle.com/product/bonidetermiteandcarpenterantcontrolconcentrate.cfm?redirect=false&srccode=cii_328768002&cpncode=34-236927243-2&source=msplaSo long at it's strong enough in the water to turn it milky when you shake the spray bottle, it's strong enough for clothing as tick killer and repellant. I do it to milky looking and then that much more. Use it on tents, packs, dogs, hats, shirts, jackets... Beyond that I put it in a tree and shrub sprayer and spray the house from the peak of the rook to the foundation twice a year. Once in the spring when the wood bees start up and again in the Indian Summer of the fall to wipe out the lady bug invasion. A bonus is we never see an ant or but in the house and it kills all the fleas where ever they dog has been laying around all summer. I dose her dog house good while I'm at it, inside and out.
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Post by drs on Sept 1, 2014 4:25:20 GMT -5
With all the seed ticks along with chiggers, has there been any reports of Lymes Disease up in Indiana? Personally, I'd be more fearful of catching West Nile Fever (Virus) from a mosquito bite; but Lymes can be very bad causing many health issues. Any? LOL. Lyme is a lot more common than you think. I had it this year late spring early summer. In the past my wife has had it and a couple of my buddies have had it AT LEAST. Just use the permethrin liberally on your clothing to cut down the odds of getting a Lyme infected tick and it also cuts down the chance of transmission even if you do. But NOTHING makes it impossible. My wife doesn't do any of the woodsy stuff. Barely walks around the yard and she got it years before I did. Be aware of the symptoms and when you get "something weird like a cold but not a cold, like the flue but not a flue, haven't been around any one sick, never had it like this before..." go to the doctor and get the antibiotic treatment. 3 weeks of pills and you are over it. DON'T WAIT FOR IT TO JUST GET OVER IT. THEN IT COMES BACK 10X WORSE and you get all those complications you read about in the papers to scare the crap out of you. Jack, Your correct in that Lyme Disease is more serious than most think. Especially when one has other chronic illness, or is immune compromised.
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Post by ms660 on Sept 1, 2014 12:54:26 GMT -5
I agree with Jack on the milky white color of the mixture. Don't forget to shake EVERY time before use because it will separate from the water and settle on top as it sits unused. I also use it to spray my out buildings and the foundation and crawl space of my house for creepy crawlers. It help with the swarms of lady bugs we get in the late summer early fall that are looking for some place to hibernate winter.Here is a couple brands that I get at Rural King. It's active ingredient is 10% permethrin. I used to be able to get 19% permethrin, but I haven't seen it for a while.
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Post by esshup on Sept 1, 2014 21:58:09 GMT -5
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Post by jackryan on Sept 1, 2014 22:08:07 GMT -5
That looks like good stuff. I need to find where to get that.
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Post by esshup on Sept 2, 2014 1:18:02 GMT -5
That looks like good stuff. I need to find where to get that. Try the local co-op or a farm chemical supplier (not your Tractor Supply/Rural King type of store). You might need a pesticide applicators license to purchase it. I have one on file with my local supplier, so I don't even think about it.
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Post by omegahunter on Sept 2, 2014 13:39:45 GMT -5
Got me a bottle of that Sawyer's from WalMart before squirrel season began and I treated my camo. I have not had a tick on me in the 4 times that I have been out. And that is something because I can pick up ticks by walking down the edge of the road!!!
I AM A TICK MAGNET!
I have been spraying the Repel Sportman Gear Smart Formula on exposed skin to keep the skeeters at bay. A couple years ago I soaked my camo down with Repel and slung my .22 over my shoulder and some of the finish had been eaten off by the spray before the squirrel hunt was done. Now I look for that Gear Smart any time that I need aerosol bug spray.
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