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Post by HighCotton on Sept 22, 2014 21:12:57 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Sept 22, 2014 22:11:05 GMT -5
Something seems a little off on this one to me. Storing that kind of high dollar equipment in a trailer over night is fishy to me then the trailer was found and it still was locked but it was empty? Not adding up to me.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 23, 2014 6:13:54 GMT -5
Something seems a little off on this one to me. Storing that kind of high dollar equipment in a trailer over night is fishy to me then the trailer was found and it still was locked but it was empty? Not adding up to me. Just going from the story in the link one does have to wonder; at minimum it was an incredibly stupid thing to do. No way expensive firearms like that would be left out in a trailer overnight if they were mine. |
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Post by trapperdave on Sept 23, 2014 6:18:41 GMT -5
beyond stupid. Negligent to tenth degree
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 23, 2014 8:10:12 GMT -5
Cargo trailers at motels are pretty much thief magnets. Probably something of value in there, and the owners are often elsewhere, or asleep. Tow rigs are standard enough to make the hookups relatively easy, especially if the tow rig they used to get it there is now elsewhere, too. Very little real security there, and the atmosphere is conducive to cruising for victims without raising suspicion.
Helpful if they have their business name on the side advertising their merchandise for the midnight "shoppers". A gun shop should be near the top of the list in desirable victims. Very fence-able stuff in there, most likely, and enough of it to be too much for the trunk of the owner's car or the back of a mini-van.
Finding the trailer still locked is an interesting twist. One would think an owner pulling an insurance fraud would have the good sense to jimmy the locks and make it look less like an inside job, but then leaving it locked might be just a ploy by a regular type thief to throw some suspicion on the owner.
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 23, 2014 8:33:53 GMT -5
Hmmm... finally got the video to play (my net downloads are SLOW), and the theft took place in front of the shop.
Sounds like the biggest owner error might have been in advertising that they would b closed the next day in order to be at the shooting range. Kinda like telling all your Facebook friends that you're going on vacation, and unknowingly advertising your absence to any interested burglars. Tough choice for a small shop owner...rude to shut down one day of a weekend without notifying your regulars, but making the shop vulnerable to massive theft maybe not a good idea either.
Would be interesting to find out how the theft took place without leaving evidence of tampering with either lock.
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Post by swilk on Sept 23, 2014 8:39:29 GMT -5
I bet it is much more common than some people think .... dealers that load trailers the day before leaving for a show or other event that is.
Had a little gun shop run out of a guys house here in Vincennes years ago .... guy sold a bunch, and I mean a bunch of Ruger guns and always had hundreds of guns on hand. He would load up his enclosed trailer and leave it sitting outside the night before a gun show.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 23, 2014 8:40:41 GMT -5
This sure doesn't sound Kosher.. I guess a lock can be picked and re locked..
I recall a similar thing tha happened to a friend of mine who lost better than a dozen P & Y+ deer heads when his trailer was taken from a parking lot of an archery show in Vegas. They never found the trailer or deer heads..
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Post by chubwub on Sept 23, 2014 8:41:32 GMT -5
One would think that they would have parked it underneath a security camera. It is possible there is foul play with one of the employees, but a rear wheel lock can be defeated by removing the tire and swapping it out or simply driving away with it if you have a tandem axle and a ball hitch coupler lock can be foiled by simply attaching the chain to the locked coupler. My guess is the wheel lock was not the kind that prevents removal of the wheel.
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Post by throbak on Sept 23, 2014 9:01:33 GMT -5
They just said on the Louisville news this AM that there was a Murder and Robbery of Guns and Ammo at the Gun shop in N. Vernon Indiana gun shop owner killed in robbery, 47 guns stolen
Posted: Sep 22, 2014 10:50 PM
Updated: Sep 23, 2014 8:07 AM
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Authorities in Jennings County, Indiana say a gun dealer was shot and killed during a robbery of his business west of North Vernon, likely on Sunday.
Officers found the body of Scott Maxie, 61, on the floor of his business, Muscatatuck Outdoors, along County Road 200 South Sunday night. An autopsy showed Maxie died of a single gunshot wound to the head and that he had been killed inside his store, according to a Jennings County Sheriff's Dept. statement released late Monday.
Sheriff's officers, state troopers and federal ATF agents also determined 47 guns had been stolen from the business, the statement said. ATF said in a separate statement that the guns include handguns and long guns.
Investigators checked out tips in Indianapolis and closer to Jennings County throughout the day Monday. Officers remained on the scene until 7:30 p.m. Monday, the statement said.
ATF and the National Shooting Sports Foundation offer a reward of up to $10,000 for information in the case.
Anyone with tips is asked to call the Jennings County Sheriff's Dept., 812-346-8642; Indiana State Police, 812-689-5000; or the ATF Field Office, 317-287-3500.
Copyright 2014 WDRB News. All rights reserved.
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Post by span870 on Sept 23, 2014 10:59:57 GMT -5
I just read that the trailer hitch was locked and still locked when it was found. Getting stranger by the minute.
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Post by michaeladkins on Sept 23, 2014 11:09:05 GMT -5
I'm not going to jump to conclusions and think Andrew or anyone else at profire has anything to do with this. They have a great thing going, why ruin it. As far as picking a lock, anyone can pick a lock in just a few seconds with a lock picking gun. youtu.be/NPRVTU-rCnc |
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Post by parson on Sept 23, 2014 11:25:05 GMT -5
In my dealings with Andrew and Profire I've have found him to be a stand up guy. At best this was a major lapse in judgment. Hope that they apprehend those responsible and that it doesn't turn out too badly for him and the shop.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 23, 2014 12:58:50 GMT -5
They just said on the Louisville news this AM that there was a Murder and Robbery of Guns and Ammo at the Gun shop in N. Vernon Indiana gun shop owner killed in robbery, 47 guns stolen Posted: Sep 22, 2014 10:50 PM Updated: Sep 23, 2014 8:07 AM LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Authorities in Jennings County, Indiana say a gun dealer was shot and killed during a robbery of his business west of North Vernon, likely on Sunday. Officers found the body of Scott Maxie, 61, on the floor of his business, Muscatatuck Outdoors, along County Road 200 South Sunday night. An autopsy showed Maxie died of a single gunshot wound to the head and that he had been killed inside his store, according to a Jennings County Sheriff's Dept. statement released late Monday. Sheriff's officers, state troopers and federal ATF agents also determined 47 guns had been stolen from the business, the statement said. ATF said in a separate statement that the guns include handguns and long guns. Investigators checked out tips in Indianapolis and closer to Jennings County throughout the day Monday. Officers remained on the scene until 7:30 p.m. Monday, the statement said. ATF and the National Shooting Sports Foundation offer a reward of up to $10,000 for information in the case. Anyone with tips is asked to call the Jennings County Sheriff's Dept., 812-346-8642; Indiana State Police, 812-689-5000; or the ATF Field Office, 317-287-3500. Copyright 2014 WDRB News. All rights reserved. by TaboolaPromoted Links You May Lik They have arrested 3 thughs from Indy in this murder case !!! |
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 23, 2014 14:37:11 GMT -5
I just read that the trailer hitch was locked and still locked when it was found. Getting stranger by the minute. A rollback could load with the hitch locked up... |
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Post by bart1533 on Sept 23, 2014 15:47:48 GMT -5
I just don't us why they leave all that over night in a trailer. .
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 23, 2014 16:00:19 GMT -5
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Post by bart1533 on Sept 23, 2014 16:04:37 GMT -5
That's awesome. ....
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Post by firstwd on Sept 23, 2014 16:50:09 GMT -5
They just said on the Louisville news this AM that there was a Murder and Robbery of Guns and Ammo at the Gun shop in N. Vernon Indiana gun shop owner killed in robbery, 47 guns stolen Posted: Sep 22, 2014 10:50 PM Updated: Sep 23, 2014 8:07 AM LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Authorities in Jennings County, Indiana say a gun dealer was shot and killed during a robbery of his business west of North Vernon, likely on Sunday. Officers found the body of Scott Maxie, 61, on the floor of his business, Muscatatuck Outdoors, along County Road 200 South Sunday night. An autopsy showed Maxie died of a single gunshot wound to the head and that he had been killed inside his store, according to a Jennings County Sheriff's Dept. statement released late Monday. Sheriff's officers, state troopers and federal ATF agents also determined 47 guns had been stolen from the business, the statement said. ATF said in a separate statement that the guns include handguns and long guns. Investigators checked out tips in Indianapolis and closer to Jennings County throughout the day Monday. Officers remained on the scene until 7:30 p.m. Monday, the statement said. ATF and the National Shooting Sports Foundation offer a reward of up to $10,000 for information in the case. Anyone with tips is asked to call the Jennings County Sheriff's Dept., 812-346-8642; Indiana State Police, 812-689-5000; or the ATF Field Office, 317-287-3500. Copyright 2014 WDRB News. All rights reserved. by TaboolaPromoted Links You May Lik They have arrested 3 thughs from Indy in this murder case !!! One was the FedEx driver that regularly delivered to the store. |
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Post by jackryan on Sept 24, 2014 20:42:23 GMT -5
He would load up his enclosed trailer and leave it sitting outside the night before a gun show. ALMOST everyone who does any show of any kind and moves enough stuff to NEED a trailer loads it up before the show and not in the morning before they get in and drive there. There's nothing unusual about this practice. |
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