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Post by jb1069 on Oct 1, 2014 15:31:23 GMT -5
Since this is allowed in Michigan, If a hunter found someone in their stand, which is legal, would the stand owner be allowed to tell them to get out so they could take down their personal property or would this result into a harassment issue?
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Post by oldhoyt on Oct 1, 2014 15:37:32 GMT -5
Dunno. I would hope the guy would just get out of the stand and move on. I can't imagine someone refusing to get down if the owner wanted to pull the stand.
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 1, 2014 15:57:14 GMT -5
greetings Across here it really is stupid, if i put a high seat up and a member of the public goes up it and falls then i am going to get sued, that is what happened in another local forest. seemingly we are responsible for the safety of anyone that comes onto our property. Hence i have two high seats out and the moment i don't need them they will come down, they have no climbing signs on but whether that would save me i do not know. regards billy
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Post by duff on Oct 1, 2014 19:33:05 GMT -5
If you put a stand up you can expect the best thing to happen is someone will hunt it but more likely to be stolen. Duck blinds get used by other hunters all the time.
To think otherwise is foolish legal or not. I figure that is why we have climbers or ground blinds
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Post by shouldernuke on Oct 1, 2014 19:46:08 GMT -5
I put this in the Ask the CO Forum as well, but figured I'd get some opinions here. Assuming a treestand is placed on public hunting land according to the rules, is the stand open to anyone who wants to use it (first one to get there), or, can it only be used by the owner? Thanks. Actually that stand is private property and the fact that is "LEGALY" left on public hunting land for the duration of that season does not make it available to anyone but the owner of that private property .And if someone is in it they must vacate it immediately that is the law once asked by the rightful owner .. all point 7 is saying is they want to fights or altercations over it and want people to tuck tail and be walked on by the lazy shiftless SOB who did not do the work and is stinking it up.. FYI they are pushing the sportsmanship BS a little far IMHO . FYI if someone hunts your stand and it breaks od the fall from it technically you are liable in court for it ....So the fact that the DNR is all about being gracious and sportsman like then maybe they would like to pay any damages ...
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Post by jackryan on Oct 1, 2014 20:25:17 GMT -5
Rule or not it's all about good hunter ethics to steer-clear of another mans set-up! No it's not. Good hunter ethics is to be in your tree stand if you expect to tie up a good hunting spot. I've seen guys try to tie up 50 acres building tree stands and putting them out all over the place like they own it. All they accomplished was to let me stop carrying mine in every day and I never saw any one out there in the 3 seasons I hunted out of them. Including opening weekend. You can't buy an acre of public ground for a $20 tree stand and think you are going to keep every one off it all season. At least it's not keeping me off it. If I want to, I'll hang mine in the same tree yours is if you aren't sitting in it. If I do that, I'm not getting down when you show up an hour after day light.
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Post by shouldernuke on Oct 1, 2014 20:44:15 GMT -5
Rule or not it's all about good hunter ethics to steer-clear of another mans set-up! No it's not. Good hunter ethics is to be in your tree stand if you expect to tie up a good hunting spot. I've seen guys try to tie up 50 acres building tree stands and putting them out all over the place like they own it. All they accomplished was to let me stop carrying mine in every day and I never saw any one out there in the 3 seasons I hunted out of them. Including opening weekend. You can't buy an acre of public ground for a $20 tree stand and think you are going to keep every one off it all season. At least it's not keeping me off it. If I want to, I'll hang mine in the same tree yours is if you aren't sitting in it. If I do that, I'm not getting down when you show up an hour after day light. What the heck is wrong with you old man /Your ethics are really lacking to say the least by your many posts and own words here . FYI if I caught you in my tree or stand we would spend the day starring at each other as I climbed over you to get on stand .Like it or not..And there would not be a single thing you could do about it .
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Post by hornzilla on Oct 1, 2014 22:26:55 GMT -5
I am so glad that I own the ground I hunt and hunt the ground of my farmer that farms for me. I promise you if I had a stand on public ground and someone was in it and refused to get down and move when I showed up. I would leave you to it. But you better have a parachute to get down. Because the climbing stick is going to the house with me. What the heck is wrong with people these days.
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 2, 2014 2:09:50 GMT -5
greetings Hornzilla you have asked a question and i am going to pull no punches answering you What the heck is wrong with people these days. Simple, GREED AND SELFISHNESS. Same over here i see it a lot as as a pro stalker taking clients out, and because of it i no longer enjoy taking clients. Once upon a time i could bust my butt to get a client a deer and he would be over the moon, now it is were is the next, come on lets get more. ahhhhh is not the job it was. regards billy
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 2, 2014 2:32:14 GMT -5
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Post by onebentarrow on Oct 2, 2014 5:07:57 GMT -5
What you all call high seat is like hunting from the ground. I want to be no less than 6 meter but would rather be 9 meters high
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Post by duff on Oct 2, 2014 5:24:05 GMT -5
So if you typically hunt a specific area and there is already a vehicle or two do you go running in because you put your stand there or do you head down to the next spot?
I agree with Jack on this, if you put a stand up and expect no one will use them or avoid "your" area you are delusional. Go ahead and ruin your hunt, I don't have time to ruin my hunt so I find the next spot.
To listen to you guys if you got to your stand and a guy was ten feet away in his climber who wins...
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Post by GS1 on Oct 2, 2014 6:29:19 GMT -5
If I have a stand in an area and someone is already parked there when I get there, I'm going somewhere else.
Who's liable when someone too lazy to do their own scouting or too lazy to hang their own stand, climbs up in someone else's and falls out and breaks something?
I would never trust the equipment of someone I do not know.
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Post by swilk on Oct 2, 2014 7:08:35 GMT -5
To take this a step further in the hypothetical scenario and question area .....
Lets say you put up a stand on public ground. Come back to hunt that stand and find another hunter in it .... and you throw a fit or otherwise disrupt that hunters hunt. Are you in violation of the hunter harassment laws?
Hows that for a kick in the shin .... find a guy hunting out of your stand and you end up getting a ticket for it.
Just food for thought ....
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 2, 2014 7:44:53 GMT -5
So if you typically hunt a specific area and there is already a vehicle or two do you go running in because you put your stand there or do you head down to the next spot? I agree with Jack on this, if you put a stand up and expect no one will use them or avoid "your" area you are delusional. Go ahead and ruin your hunt, I don't have time to ruin my hunt so I find the next spot. To listen to you guys if you got to your stand and a guy was ten feet away in his climber who wins... The guy in the climber .. A hung stand does not reserve the spot... If I walked in and someone was in my stand I'd ask them politely to get down and move on. The decent thing for them to do would be to comply. If they didn't id go hunt elsewhere but would be back the next day to drop the stand. They would not hunt it a second time. The further back in that you walk to your stand the less likely anyone will be in it.
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Post by omegahunter on Oct 2, 2014 8:10:19 GMT -5
To take this a step further in the hypothetical scenario and question area ..... Lets say you put up a stand on public ground. Come back to hunt that stand and find another hunter in it .... and you throw a fit or otherwise disrupt that hunters hunt. Are you in violation of the hunter harassment laws? Hows that for a kick in the shin .... find a guy hunting out of your stand and you end up getting a ticket for it. Just food for thought .... Or do you argue that he is the harasser attempting to prevent you from hunting out of your personal property?
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Post by swilk on Oct 2, 2014 8:27:36 GMT -5
Would depend on who the law supports. Is the treestand fair game?
I guess the answer in the "Ask a CO" forum would decide who might get the ticket in my little scenario.
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Post by oldhoyt on Oct 2, 2014 8:37:31 GMT -5
So if you typically hunt a specific area and there is already a vehicle or two do you go running in because you put your stand there or do you head down to the next spot? I agree with Jack on this, if you put a stand up and expect no one will use them or avoid "your" area you are delusional. Go ahead and ruin your hunt, I don't have time to ruin my hunt so I find the next spot. To listen to you guys if you got to your stand and a guy was ten feet away in his climber who wins... The guy in the climber .. A hung stand does not reserve the spot... If I walked in and someone was in my stand I'd ask them politely to get down and move on. The decent thing for them to do would be to comply. If they didn't id go hunt elsewhere but would be back the next day to drop the stand. They would not hunt it a second time. The further back in that you walk to your stand the less likely anyone will be in it. Woody, do you know the rule/reg on this? On public land, is it lawful to sit in a properly hung stand that is not your own?
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Post by raporter on Oct 2, 2014 9:02:51 GMT -5
Went check a acorn tree on my property and found a tree stand on my side already. Oct 1 and it already has started. Wow. How do you like your new stand?
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Post by dead-eye on Oct 2, 2014 9:30:36 GMT -5
When I received my ticket for my stand being left up after the date in the reg. Book. I told the c.o. that he needed to split the fine between me and all the other people that used my stand. And there were a few! He said nope your name was on it so it your fine. Then I argued if I'm paying a fine then no one else should be using it but me. And again he said nope. If I put a stand on public ground it is considered public use. If I show up and someone is in it they have to get out. He said if they didn't then call the dnr. But if I'm not there anyone can use it. This was straight from a c.o.
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