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Post by ridgerunner on Oct 21, 2014 4:44:24 GMT -5
Normal around West Central Indiana..I'm not seeing any signs this early yet.. The young bucks always get anxious early, but we're still 2.5 weeks away from any serious rut activity IMHO.
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Post by shouldernuke on Oct 21, 2014 5:23:04 GMT -5
I knew one day we could/would agree on something ... I agree that the breeding happens around the same time every year but I also believe the weather and moon phase will effect visual rutting cues we see, like chasing, daytime activity etc. I I agree weather such as heat over 65@ daytime temps and human pressure will squelch day time movement those are the big two people do not realize that effect day time movement .But those things aside the Rut will carry on right on time but people just will not see it happen like they think they should .
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 21, 2014 8:02:39 GMT -5
Agree with you Shouldernuke but like has been previousily stated: weather,temps,moon phase, hunting pressure all influence daytime activity during the rut. Trigger is does coming into heat, which has been said to be caused by shorter amount of daylight. OCT 25th-NOV 25th is prime time IMO. A few does come in early and a few come in late. Regardless it is time to hit the woods.
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Post by swilk on Oct 21, 2014 8:08:14 GMT -5
Pressure. Daytime temperatures. Buck to doe ratio.
Had a rocking middle of last week and ever since those two days it is back to season as normal.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 21, 2014 8:13:32 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on Oct 21, 2014 8:19:42 GMT -5
Other studies show it does.
Which studies do we believe?
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Post by swilk on Oct 21, 2014 8:23:29 GMT -5
My own study has been ongoing over the last 30 years or so .... and I have come to the conclusion the word "rut" is mostly misunderstood by hunters. When we hunters speak of the rut most are talking about the action we actually see during hunting hours and what we see during that time can be and is effected by different things.
The rut is most certainly going on right now and has been going in since the first doe came into heat this year ....
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Post by boonechaser on Oct 21, 2014 8:46:20 GMT -5
May not influence BREEDING , but it sure's does influence DAYTIME ACTIVITY, of which is when I hunt so IMO that matter's!!!!!! SWILK you are correct for most "The Rut" is buck's chasing doe's around the wood's, but in fact it begin's much earlier as buck's posture for dominence with other buck's (which begins late summer)and I still gotta believe you had a doe or two come into heat last week when you had all the buck activity?? But it's certainly time for rutting activity to start picking up.
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Post by esshup on Oct 21, 2014 10:21:08 GMT -5
A trail cam over 2 scrapes side by side show a few deer (both bucks and does) visiting (one or two each day), but there are no visual clues that any scrapes in the area have been freshened up in the past 3 or 4 days. Same leaves are in the scrape, no new marks in the dirt. Northern Indiana
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Post by joeyb on Oct 21, 2014 14:46:58 GMT -5
All the biologists say it's length of daylight that starts the rut. That doesn't change year to year. I've got my eggs in a basket for Halloween through the 12th.
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Post by drs on Oct 22, 2014 4:27:31 GMT -5
All the biologists say it's length of daylight that starts the rut. That doesn't change year to year. I've got my eggs in a basket for Halloween through the 12th. While the length of daylight does certainly starts rutting activity; we must also factor in daily temps./weather conditions. During rut, when the daytime tempts. are above normal and especially if it's windy; Deer will partake [MORE] in rutting activity during the nights. During unusually warm weather, a cloudy rainy day would/might cause Deer to make an appearance and move more during daylight hours. I agree that Rut peek normally begins around the first week of November.
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