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Post by huntingchick19 on Oct 30, 2014 22:52:26 GMT -5
Well I have talk with some of you guys on here before about the issues I was having on my place. Now their at it worse than ever. I got the usual phone call about 3 weeks ago from the people that live near my place wanting to lease the hunting rights. Of course I refused because A. I hunt and B. I happen to know that most of those idiots drink beer while hunting on their place and also hunt over bait. Don't really want that mess going down on my land. Well they got mad. Cussed me out on the phone and hung up. Me and my husband thought OK that's the end of that for this year. Man I was wrong! Got to our place today to cut a tree out of the driveway to find that someone drove THREW my food plot. and stole 2 ladder stands that over looked the plot. Now if you are willing to either climb up a tree or carry a ladder of your own into the woods to steal someone Else's stand I would think that you had enough gonads to get a job and buy your own freaking stand. Worst part is I have pictures of the worthless creatures from a trail cam on the drive. Plainly shows who was driving out with my gear... take it to the sheriff is they are freaking kin to him....... giving very very serious thought to selling and buying land somewhere else. I'm getting really tired of replacing stolen equipment. Thanks for the vent time y'all.
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Post by deadeer on Oct 31, 2014 1:00:40 GMT -5
Make a copy, deal with the CO in your area, if they don't help, go up the ladder to the state police until you get results. You will succeed. Screw the locals if they want to play games. Fight back! Post your land if not already done. Good luck.
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Post by ridgerunner on Oct 31, 2014 4:36:01 GMT -5
Contact the Game Warden, I guarantee they'll take care of it.. Don;t deal with the Sheriff, it's a conflict of interest for him anyways if the people who stole your stuff is his relative...he should have contacted the game warden. The stupid elected officals are incompetent sometimes....well...most times....get with the game warden.
DO NOT LET THESE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH IT OR IT WILL BE WORSE NEXT TIME!
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Post by drs on Oct 31, 2014 5:00:17 GMT -5
Well I have talk with some of you guys on here before about the issues I was having on my place. Now their at it worse than ever. I got the usual phone call about 3 weeks ago from the people that live near my place wanting to lease the hunting rights. Of course I refused because A. I hunt and B. I happen to know that most of those idiots drink beer while hunting on their place and also hunt over bait. Don't really want that mess going down on my land. Well they got mad. Cussed me out on the phone and hung up. Me and my husband thought OK that's the end of that for this year. Man I was wrong! Got to our place today to cut a tree out of the driveway to find that someone drove THREW my food plot. and stole 2 ladder stands that over looked the plot. Now if you are willing to either climb up a tree or carry a ladder of your own into the woods to steal someone Else's stand I would think that you had enough gonads to get a job and buy your own freaking stand. Worst part is I have pictures of the worthless creatures from a trail cam on the drive. Plainly shows who was driving out with my gear... take it to the sheriff is they are freaking kin to him....... giving very very serious thought to selling and buying land somewhere else. I'm getting really tired of replacing stolen equipment. Thanks for the vent time y'all. I'd that this matter to the State Police. It's there duty to protect landowners, BUT the Sheriff also has that duty and he should be implicated in this case. No one should have to put-up with this type behavior.
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Post by M4Madness on Oct 31, 2014 5:20:26 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your problems with scumbags. The only way to end it is to develop the reputation of being a hard*** among the locals. Prosecute those who wrong you, and soon enough everyone will get the message.
Take the matter to someone other than the Sheriff. Bust him too if he is looking the other way on the matter. He's not above the law -- our last Sheriff was arrested on felony charges.
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Post by parrothead on Oct 31, 2014 5:28:10 GMT -5
Get some cheaper trail cams too to set up high in trees. If need glue some tree bark on the to help camo them. Natchez shooting supply usually has some close out deals. Take an extension ladder into the woods to set them up high. Have friends and neighbors keep an eye on your place when your not around.
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Post by firstwd on Oct 31, 2014 5:43:27 GMT -5
If sheriff is refusing to arrest the them go with ICO'S and ISP. They will get the culprits and start an investigation into the sheriff. If that doesn't work, go to the media!
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Oct 31, 2014 6:38:41 GMT -5
Post pics in local paper of the perps. Hang them up at the local market and gas station with a narrative of what they did. Public shame is great.
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Post by steve46511 on Oct 31, 2014 6:41:41 GMT -5
Such activity isn't exclusive to your area. Only adding that as food for thought that "selling and buying elsewhere" wouldn't fix anything, not permanently at least IMO. My current hunting gear consists of my clothes, a collapsible seat or bucket and what I am hunting with. What goes in with me, comes out and this is because of the very same thing you are experiencing. The land I've lost the most on, due mostly to decades of hunting it, is NOT close to the road either. It's a full 500 yards or more from any road, in full view of two houses and nothing stops them. I've never used a trail camera and never will. I personally don't feel the desire but it wouldn't last a week in local woods'. I've often wondered, for those willing to go to the expense and REALLY "fix" such a problem why doing a little research and finding a GPS findable chip on anything of value (inside for instance), recording the serial number and having the receipt etc for anything I thought would come up missing and when it came up gone......call the locals and "find" it through GPS. Red handed with stolen property would be a tough one to fight, otherwise I'M told they have to be caught in the act. This is just a find from a VERY fast search for one. Im sure none are "cheap" and some are better than others but....just 2 cents. I don't have any information on how well any of them would work but one would assume SOME of them are very good. www.popsci.com/article/gadgets/put-these-quarter-sized-gps-trackers-everything I feel your pain. It's been part of my hunting life for decades. I just stopped battling and losing things I no longer can afford to replace. I hunt with VERY limited equipment and the result fits better within my goal for a stress free lifestyle (as much as I can control). God Bless
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Oct 31, 2014 6:47:40 GMT -5
Post pics in local paper of the perps. Hang them up at the local market and gas station with a narrative of what they did. Public shame is great. I agree! As a sheriff deputy myself, the ethical thing to do is have an outside, unbiased agency do the investigation so that there is no reason to suspect unfairness. If the local sheriff dept isn't going that route then I'd have to say that you're not getting a fair shake. I hate a thief. Family, friend or whatever. No respect for them. Good luck and sorry you're being victimized by both trespassers and your local sheriff dept.
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Post by steve46511 on Oct 31, 2014 7:01:53 GMT -5
About the poster suggestion.
ONLY my 2 cents, but without "proof" doing so would open the path to legal action for "Defamation of character" that they COULD prove if posters were put out and if one has PROOF then pursuing through legal channels is the ONLY option , IMHO, wise to follow.
Get proof in any means available to you.
Pointing fingers without proof can backfire on you.
Yes, you can show photos that a certain vehicle drove out there. That is not, in itself, proof they STOLE anything. I've been this route. If there isn't several eye witnesses and the perp isn't caught WITH the item, it's all "hearsay". I beat my head against that rock several times with zero results.
Some may see this as "I gave up". I took the only "win" I had access to. They have nothing TO steal so they don't come back.......as much.
again, ONLY my opinion. God Bless
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Post by GS1 on Oct 31, 2014 7:21:19 GMT -5
What county is this happening in?
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Oct 31, 2014 7:25:04 GMT -5
She mentioned that the pic plainly should who was driving out with her gear. I was assuming the gear was also visible in the pic
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 31, 2014 7:37:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd get the state police involved.
Tell them the whole story and see what happens..
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 31, 2014 7:38:28 GMT -5
Greetings You are right Steve To go ahead without thinking about it can cost a lot of money in legal fee,s, do defend yourself. Huntingchick needs to go to the law and let them deal with it, and go as high as she has to, to get results. The message here is Mark all your property, whether with invisible writing or weld your name on,just anything to tell the law it is your property. It is impossible if it's not marked,been there got the t shirt. Regards Billy
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Oct 31, 2014 8:18:47 GMT -5
About the poster suggestion. ONLY my 2 cents, but without "proof" doing so would open the path to legal action for "Defamation of character" that they COULD prove if posters were put out and if one has PROOF then pursuing through legal channels is the ONLY option , IMHO, wise to follow. Get proof in any means available to you. Pointing fingers without proof can backfire on you. Yes, you can show photos that a certain vehicle drove out there. That is not, in itself, proof they STOLE anything. I've been this route. If there isn't several eye witnesses and the perp isn't caught WITH the item, it's all "hearsay". I beat my head against that rock several times with zero results. Some may see this as "I gave up". I took the only "win" I had access to. They have nothing TO steal so they don't come back.......as much. again, ONLY my opinion. God Bless She has pics of the truck, leaving her property with her stands in that truck. The Sheriff knows its his family member because she reported it. Trespassing and theft with pics to show for it. I wouldn't give one crap about defamation of character.
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Post by bart1533 on Oct 31, 2014 8:23:51 GMT -5
I contact the CO in ur area.. He should take car of it regardless if the sheriff is kin of the scumbags...
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 31, 2014 8:25:16 GMT -5
About the poster suggestion. ONLY my 2 cents, but without "proof" doing so would open the path to legal action for "Defamation of character" that they COULD prove if posters were put out and if one has PROOF then pursuing through legal channels is the ONLY option , IMHO, wise to follow. Get proof in any means available to you. Pointing fingers without proof can backfire on you. Yes, you can show photos that a certain vehicle drove out there. That is not, in itself, proof they STOLE anything. I've been this route. If there isn't several eye witnesses and the perp isn't caught WITH the item, it's all "hearsay". I beat my head against that rock several times with zero results. Some may see this as "I gave up". I took the only "win" I had access to. They have nothing TO steal so they don't come back.......as much. again, ONLY my opinion. God Bless She has pics of the truck, leaving her property with her stands in that truck. The Sheriff knows its his family member because she reported it. Trespassing and theft with pics to show for it. I wouldn't give one crap about defamation of character. If the local sheriff doesn't give her the due she deserves then by all means take it to the state police. This is a felony.. answers.uslegal.com/criminal/1341/
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Post by steve46511 on Oct 31, 2014 8:47:01 GMT -5
About the poster suggestion. ONLY my 2 cents, but without "proof" doing so would open the path to legal action for "Defamation of character" that they COULD prove if posters were put out and if one has PROOF then pursuing through legal channels is the ONLY option , IMHO, wise to follow. Get proof in any means available to you. Pointing fingers without proof can backfire on you. Yes, you can show photos that a certain vehicle drove out there. That is not, in itself, proof they STOLE anything. I've been this route. If there isn't several eye witnesses and the perp isn't caught WITH the item, it's all "hearsay". I beat my head against that rock several times with zero results. Some may see this as "I gave up". I took the only "win" I had access to. They have nothing TO steal so they don't come back.......as much. again, ONLY my opinion. God Bless She has pics of the truck, leaving her property with her stands in that truck. The Sheriff knows its his family member because she reported it. Trespassing and theft with pics to show for it. I wouldn't give one crap about defamation of character. Near the same thing I had. I was told to PROVE those were MY stands. I hope it works for her. Just saying I had eye witness who saw them go in and out, AND the person had my stuff. I could not PROVE they were mine once in their possession so nothing was done, no charges filed.....and they kept the stands. I couldn't prove they were MY stands standing beside them. Trying to prove some in a photo were the property of someone else's? Again, I hope something works in her case. Just telling you what I faced, more than once with the same results every time. God Bless
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Post by huntingchick19 on Oct 31, 2014 8:50:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the ideas guys.
I made some phone calls to state police and my local PD. They said they are going to help me take care of this problem. I also have a friend that is an officer that now has permission to hunt the property that is going to be going down there. He said if he see's something he can actualy detain and call a CO or state police. I'm still freaking mad though... one of the stands was a new double that I had just bought since I'm teaching my 7 year old daughter to hunt. We'd only sat in it 3 times. Now I think for a little while we going to stick with ground blinds that I can carry in and out when I have her with me.
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