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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 12:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by jdaily on Nov 23, 2014 12:53:38 GMT -5
Got set.up this morning at the corner of a woods, overlooking a valley to the south and a cut been field to the west and north. At first light, I had 2 doe come fr the north, across the bean field and into the woods behind me. Not long after that, a little 4 point crossed the field to the west of me. When he went into the woods to the south, into the valley, I noticed a big doe slowly working her way towards me. She was about 100 yrs out walking straight for me. She was taking her time, eating leaves and acorns as she ever so slowly moved toward me. She kept looking behind her, so I was hoping she had a male friend in tow. Now, from time to time, I would hear a yelp of a dog off in the distance. All of the sudden, off in the distance, I see 4 doe running twatd me through the woods . As the are approaching the doe I had been watching, she took off with the rest of them. They ran across the been field north and soon after, here came 2 collared beagles. They took the same path as the doe to the north. After they got into the woods to the north, for some reason, they turned back and decided to come run around the woods, I was trying to hunt. It took everything I had , not to shoot the lead dog. This is not the first time this dog has ruined one of our hunts, so his owner must live close. After I got out of the woods, I talked with the man, who's property we hunt on and asked if he knew who the dog belonged to. He didn't know. If this dogs ruins another one of my hunts, it might just be his last.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2014 13:26:59 GMT -5
I've had problems with dogs while deer hunting for years, and it seems like I've seen them more this year than previous ones. I have no idea who owns them, but one of them had pups this time last year, and now I've got a huge pack of deer-running dogs.
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 13:31:38 GMT -5
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Post by chubwub on Nov 23, 2014 13:31:38 GMT -5
I feel your pain and have no reservations about dispatching feral dogs. Perhaps if they are friendly enough to catch you can pick them up and drop them off at the humane society(not a huge fan of them but they are great for this purpose) who will then hold the dogs hostage for a ransom fee of $45 each to be released to the owner. Turn them in anonymously every time they get loose. Owner will eventually get tired of paying fees and either release dogs for adoption or pen them up.
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 13:39:02 GMT -5
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Post by jajwrigh on Nov 23, 2014 13:39:02 GMT -5
I had a beagle ruin a shot on a nice buck several years back. Not fun at all...
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 23, 2014 14:06:24 GMT -5
They can help as well. Have had dogs push deer to me on more than 1 occasion.
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Post by throbak on Nov 23, 2014 14:18:09 GMT -5
The Dogs owner hates it as much as you and the part about shooting Feral dogs How do you tell unless you live where you hunt shooting a dog is not a good Idea unless its on your leg bitten ya
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 23, 2014 14:20:37 GMT -5
They can help as well. Have had dogs push deer to me on more than 1 occasion. yep. Back about 10 years ago a couple beagles ran a doe and a big 8 by Woodmaster. The 8 didn't go much further. Woodmaster wanted to go "kiss the dogs right in the mouth."
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Nov 23, 2014 15:08:25 GMT -5
Yes, frustrating but a good chance they are a child's pet. No deer is worth shooting someone's dog IMO.
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Post by boonechaser on Nov 23, 2014 15:13:51 GMT -5
A hunter that shoot's someone's dog is a a pretty poor excuse of a hunter in IMO. I have walked more than one neighbor's dog home before and have 2 buck's on my wall that were pushed by dog's. Doesn't even bother me to see them come running through the wood's anymore. Just continue with my hunt.
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 15:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by hornzilla on Nov 23, 2014 15:25:31 GMT -5
A hunter that shoot's someone's dog is a a pretty poor excuse of a hunter in IMO. I have walked more than one neighbor's dog home before and have 2 buck's on my wall that were pushed by dog's. Doesn't even bother me to see them come running through the wood's anymore. Just continue with my hunt. Very well said. There not hunters. There shooters. Believe me I have experience with these people. And a few years ago we had a post about this subject. And it started getting ugly in a hurry. I have been in a court room over a hound killing before. And would push the case again as far as the law would allow again. You better think Twice before you just up and shoot a dog. In the court room that dog has more rights than you do. On less he's chewing on your leg. Then you better have teeth marks. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 15:31:17 GMT -5
There are two different things at play here, pets vs feral dogs. If the dog is feral, its on the same page as a coyote in my book.
If it's a pet, that's another discussion.
Now, how do you know the difference? I normally don't so I don't shoot.
But, if you ask around about a dog you keep seeing and nobody knows anything about it...if that dog keeps showing up, that seems like a feral dog to me.
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Post by beermaker on Nov 23, 2014 15:40:27 GMT -5
I had permission to hunt a farm about ten miles from the house. I could leave home and be in a stand in 30 minutes. I hunted it for five years and always shot at least one doe, sometimes 2-3. The landowner's grandson and his two mutts moved in and I never saw another deer, period. I held onto hope until they both stood under my stand a barked at me two sits in a row.
I've been invited back on numerous occasions, but have always respectfully declined.
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Post by chubwub on Nov 23, 2014 15:46:22 GMT -5
The Dogs owner hates it as much as you and the part about shooting Feral dogs How do you tell unless you live where you hunt shooting a dog is not a good Idea unless its on your leg bitten ya I realize that many are very aversive to shooting dogs roaming at large but after many losses of valuable livestock to sweet little Fidos my tolerance for roaming dogs is very low. We had someones "pet" Labrador rip the face off 10 sheep badly they had to be euthanized. The owner had the gall to say that his mutt had a right to roam the woods and that I was wrong for shooting dogs. It's quite a shame that it never made it back home the next time I saw it. I like dogs well enough but a roaming dog that an owner wont or cant control is a nuisance. If it has no way to be traced to an owner, then it is considered feral.The damage that roaming dogs can do to local wildlife can be devastating. Recouping monetary losses from dog owners is only possible if the dog can be proven without doubt to belong to the negligent owner and the savy ones will never come forward to claim responsibilty.
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Post by salt on Nov 23, 2014 15:46:29 GMT -5
I had a neighbor shoot my dog when I was a kid because it was barking at his caged rabbits. I can honestly say that 30 years later, I still remember coming home and having my dad tell me what had happened. For that, I will never shoot a dog unless it is threatening someone in my family. It would probably not be a good situation if someone shot my dog and I found out who did it now. Just saying.... Now, I would not be afraid to go searching for the owner of a dog if it came through my woods and ruined a hunt.
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Post by GS1 on Nov 23, 2014 16:02:21 GMT -5
I guess it's legal now to shoot deer that are being pushed by dogs? I've never poached a deer that was getting chased by anything.
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 16:08:18 GMT -5
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Post by chubwub on Nov 23, 2014 16:08:18 GMT -5
I guess it's legal now to shoot deer that are being pushed by dogs? I've never poached a deer that was getting chased by anything. That is a very interesting point. Are you technically breaking the law if the harvest of your deer was influenced by roaming neighbor dogs? Wonder if you could get a CO involved to help curb a neighbor dog problem by claiming that.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2014 16:14:52 GMT -5
My peeve is that NO dog is allowed to be running free off their owner's property, yet everyone out here breaks the law and let's them run loose. Their line of thinking is that they are letting their dog(s) be free and not chained to a tree. My wife has had trouble with dogs while doing her daily 7-10 mile run, and has even gone so far as to spray one with pepper spray (which resulted in her being threatened with bodily harm and the police had to be contacted). Our animal control officer isn't much help either, so we don't even bother anymore. I've never shot a dog running deer before, but I certainly think about it every time it happens.
If you own a dog and don't keep it on your property, you are breaking the law. Period.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2014 16:16:20 GMT -5
I guess it's legal now to shoot deer that are being pushed by dogs? I've never poached a deer that was getting chased by anything. I think that the legal distinction is whether or not YOU purposely turned the dogs out to run deer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 16:16:41 GMT -5
If you own a dog and don't keep it on your property, you are breaking the law. Period. ^^^^^ THIS
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Post by tenring on Nov 23, 2014 16:22:33 GMT -5
Indiana has a leash law, the owner of the dogs is breaking the law from the gitgo.
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