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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 16:27:53 GMT -5
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Post by firstwd on Nov 23, 2014 16:27:53 GMT -5
Indiana has a leash law, the owner of the dogs is breaking the law from the gitgo. We also have a domestic animal abuse law. Can't shoot them unless they are a threat to your or someone else's safety.
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Post by shouldernuke on Nov 23, 2014 16:35:48 GMT -5
My peeve is that NO dog is allowed to be running free off their owner's property, yet everyone out here breaks the law and let's them run loose. Their line of thinking is that they are letting their dog(s) be free and not chained to a tree. My wife has had trouble with dogs while doing her daily 7-10 mile run, and has even gone so far as to spray one with pepper spray (which resulted in her being threatened with bodily harm and the police had to be contacted). Our animal control officer isn't much help either, so we don't even bother anymore. I've never shot a dog running deer before, but I certainly think about it every time it happens. If you own a dog and don't keep it on your property, you are breaking the law. Period. ^^^^^^ this and realize this dog lovers ..If you care to keep that dog safe and warm keep em on the property you own .Otherwise the countryside is not the burbs and they are despite your thoughts doing harm to something like running game or live stock most of the time or tearing something up and that too is illegal. At that point can be ended by a gunshot if one so deems it as harmful to the animals or property they own . Keep your dogs on a short leash like you do your kids if you truly love them as you state . Live stock owners and those who pay large amounts of money to hunt do not need to put up with dogs .A call to the county sheriff will normally result in the m caught or put down most times so the hunter dont have to usually do a thing but make a call. FYI it is illeagal to kill or take deer chased by dogs in IN. period no debate about it its in black and white in the Rule book.
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Post by shouldernuke on Nov 23, 2014 16:38:37 GMT -5
Indiana has a leash law, the owner of the dogs is breaking the law from the gitgo. We also have a domestic animal abuse law. Can't shoot them unless they are a threat to your or someone else's safety. Not true at all any damage is resultant in them being put down not just bodily harm.You must ask your local LEO some time .shooting dogs doing property ,bodily ,or animals harm is not abuse it is what it is .
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 23, 2014 16:41:15 GMT -5
FYI it is illeagal to kill or take deer chased by dogs in IN. period no debate about it its in black and white in the Rule book. I'd hope that a CO would have enough discretion to not bust someone who had no bearing in the dogs running loose to begin with. The intent of the law is to prohibit someone from turning dogs loose to chase deer for them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 16:43:39 GMT -5
Here again, vaguely worded statutes make this a gray area. It is illegal to "use" dogs to take a deer.
To me, that sounds like hunting with dogs in the traditional sense as is legal in some states.
I wonder if anyone was ever ticketed for shooting a deer that some stray dog happened to kick up? I sincerely doubt it.
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 16:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by chubwub on Nov 23, 2014 16:49:13 GMT -5
Here again, vaguely worded statutes make this a gray area. It is illegal to "use" dogs to take a deer. To me, that sounds like hunting with dogs in the traditional sense as is legal in some states. I wonder if anyone was ever ticketed for shooting a deer that some stray dog happened to kick up? I sincerely doubt it. Inquiring minds want to know!
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Post by shouldernuke on Nov 23, 2014 16:52:57 GMT -5
FYI it is illeagal to kill or take deer chased by dogs in IN. period no debate about it its in black and white in the Rule book. I'd hope that a CO would have enough discretion to not bust someone who had no bearing in the dogs running loose to begin with. The intent of the law is to prohibit someone from turning dogs loose to chase deer for them. I agree with this as well however more than once and its more than coincidence and they likely deal with deer hunters who call their buddies up to chase deer while "rabbit hunting" with trash running beagles all the time so after just a few of these calls its likely a ticket if they get a call .Because unless they saw there had to be a call and that point there is likely a reason to write the ticket to begin with . Once ok twice coincidence ??maybe 3 time habitual and issues are likely in any law breaking /or rule bending especially ones involving hunting where just following the rules is as easy as reading and not pulling the trigger when in doubt.JMHO here
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 16:59:08 GMT -5
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Post by hornzilla on Nov 23, 2014 16:59:08 GMT -5
My peeve is that NO dog is allowed to be running free off their owner's property, yet everyone out here breaks the law and let's them run loose. Their line of thinking is that they are letting their dog(s) be free and not chained to a tree. My wife has had trouble with dogs while doing her daily 7-10 mile run, and has even gone so far as to spray one with pepper spray (which resulted in her being threatened with bodily harm and the police had to be contacted). Our animal control officer isn't much help either, so we don't even bother anymore. I've never shot a dog running deer before, but I certainly think about it every time it happens. If you own a dog and don't keep it on your property, you are breaking the law. Period. ^^^^^^ this and realize this dog lovers ..If you care to keep that dog safe and warm keep em on the property you own .Otherwise the countryside is not the burbs and they are despite your thoughts doing harm to something like running game or live stock most of the time or tearing something up and that too is illegal. At that point can be ended by a gunshot if one so deems it as harmful to the animals or property they own . Keep your dogs on a short leash like you do your kids if you truly love them as you state . Live stock owners and those who pay large amounts of money to hunt do not need to put up with dogs .A call to the county sheriff will normally result in the m caught or put down most times so the hunter dont have to usually do a thing but make a call. FYI it is illeagal to kill or take deer chased by dogs in IN. period no debate about it its in black and white in the Rule book. Not what I learned when I took a dog killer to court. And definitely not what the judge or the laws though.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 23, 2014 17:06:38 GMT -5
Here again, vaguely worded statutes make this a gray area. It is illegal to "use" dogs to take a deer. To me, that sounds like hunting with dogs in the traditional sense as is legal in some states. I wonder if anyone was ever ticketed for shooting a deer that some stray dog happened to kick up? I sincerely doubt it. No way you could get a ticket for that and it hold up in court..... How about if someone blows a car horn from road and makes a Deer run pass you??? Ticket for use of motorized vehicular??? SMH....
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 17:11:19 GMT -5
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Post by GS1 on Nov 23, 2014 17:11:19 GMT -5
I have no bearing on my neighbor putting out a pile of corn, but I still can't shoot deer going to it can I?
But if my neighbors dog runs a deer to me I can shoot it?
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Post by shouldernuke on Nov 23, 2014 17:12:14 GMT -5
^^^^^^ this and realize this dog lovers ..If you care to keep that dog safe and warm keep em on the property you own .Otherwise the countryside is not the burbs and they are despite your thoughts doing harm to something like running game or live stock most of the time or tearing something up and that too is illegal. At that point can be ended by a gunshot if one so deems it as harmful to the animals or property they own . Keep your dogs on a short leash like you do your kids if you truly love them as you state . Live stock owners and those who pay large amounts of money to hunt do not need to put up with dogs .A call to the county sheriff will normally result in the m caught or put down most times so the hunter dont have to usually do a thing but make a call. FYI it is illeagal to kill or take deer chased by dogs in IN. period no debate about it its in black and white in the Rule book. Not what I learned when I took a dog killer to court. And definitely not what the judge or the laws though. Forgive me if I doubt your claim as this is the INTERNET and everything here is fact ..LOL shooting a dog for walking onto your property different than what I posted anyways .And at that point I will step away since a dog is one of the most destructive animals we have next to a free roaming cat .Dog and Cat lovers always get all defensive when it boils down to them taking care of what belongs to them .It is always others fault when bad things happen and the judge said this or that . SSS or call the sheriff either way the ptroblem animals go away .Pt owners take resposibility for you animals and you and the neighbors will live happily ever after .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:13:18 GMT -5
I have no bearing on my neighbor putting out a pile of corn, but I still can't shoot deer going to it can I? Another HUGE gray area. Too many potential variables to even begin to know the answer.
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Post by shouldernuke on Nov 23, 2014 17:14:01 GMT -5
Here again, vaguely worded statutes make this a gray area. It is illegal to "use" dogs to take a deer. To me, that sounds like hunting with dogs in the traditional sense as is legal in some states. I wonder if anyone was ever ticketed for shooting a deer that some stray dog happened to kick up? I sincerely doubt it. No way you could get a ticket for that and it hold up in court..... How about if someone blows a car horn from road and makes a Deer run pass you??? Ticket for use of motorized vehicular??? SMH.... Actually all that has to happen is the CO has to prove that the hunter shot a deer being run by dogs and thats the letter of the law and it sticks plain and simple .The dongs do not have to be his just shoot a deer over chasing dogs and you broke the law like setting on a fence that the neighbor has a salt block or corn pile in their yard and killing one its still hunting over bait .Ask a CO if this is true or not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:16:03 GMT -5
No way you could get a ticket for that and it hold up in court..... How about if someone blows a car horn from road and makes a Deer run pass you??? Ticket for use of motorized vehicular??? SMH.... Actually all that has tpo happen is the CO has to prove that the hunter shot adeer being run by dogs and thats letter of the law and it sticks plain and simple . The letter of the law is you can't "use" dogs to take a deer. That's all it says. A good lawyer would rip that wide open.
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D@mn dogs!
Nov 23, 2014 17:17:28 GMT -5
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Post by GS1 on Nov 23, 2014 17:17:28 GMT -5
I have no bearing on my neighbor putting out a pile of corn, but I still can't shoot deer going to it can I? Another HUGE gray area. Too many potential variables to even begin to know the answer. Some color it grey, but after being in a similar situation before, most guys in green color it black and white. I feel like I'm helping my 2 year old learn her colors.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 23, 2014 17:17:53 GMT -5
No way you could get a ticket for that and it hold up in court..... How about if someone blows a car horn from road and makes a Deer run pass you??? Ticket for use of motorized vehicular??? SMH.... Actually all that has tpo happen is the CO has to prove that the hunter shot adeer being run by dogs and thats letter of the law and it sticks plain and simple . A CO can write the TICKET....the rest is or can be settled in a court of law!!!
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Post by shouldernuke on Nov 23, 2014 17:18:26 GMT -5
Actually all that has tpo happen is the CO has to prove that the hunter shot adeer being run by dogs and thats letter of the law and it sticks plain and simple . The letter of the law is you can't "use" dogs to take a deer. That's all it says. A good lawyer would rip that wide open. How ??were dogs used in the taking of this deer in any part ??Yep they chased it past the hunter end of case right there .
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Post by ridgerunner on Nov 23, 2014 17:18:47 GMT -5
A hunter that shoot's someone's dog is a a pretty poor excuse of a hunter in IMO. I have walked more than one neighbor's dog home before and have 2 buck's on my wall that were pushed by dog's. Doesn't even bother me to see them come running through the wood's anymore. Just continue with my hunt. How many times does a man have to walk a dog home to his owner before enough is enough? I've been doing this for 10 years it's come to the point where my hunting ground is worthless. Dogs have ran the property everyday for many years, chasing deer from areas they bedded. I spent 20 years creating habitat and food plots managing for deer....How many times do I walk the dogs back to the neighbors, or should I just sell my land and move..? Heaven forbid I put a bullet in a dog that runs the woods incessantly and the owner really could care less....Sheriff told me to " get rid of the dogs".....but I don't want to be labeled a" pretty poor excuse of a hunter"...Unless someone has worked year around for 20 years trying to build property to hunt ( 80 acres), and had your land ruined then do not comment on stray dogs running deer.
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Post by shouldernuke on Nov 23, 2014 17:19:32 GMT -5
Actually all that has tpo happen is the CO has to prove that the hunter shot adeer being run by dogs and thats letter of the law and it sticks plain and simple . A CO can write the TICKET....the rest is or can be settled in a court of law!!! true!!
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Post by ridgerunner on Nov 23, 2014 17:19:46 GMT -5
Indiana has a leash law, the owner of the dogs is breaking the law from the gitgo. We also have a domestic animal abuse law. Can't shoot them unless they are a threat to your or someone else's safety. If they are harrassing/chasing wildlife on your Property you can shoot them legally.
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