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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 26, 2014 20:13:19 GMT -5
Looking to spend less than 200$ anyone know somewhere good to buy one? Does anyone hunt through firearms to bonus antlerless exclusively with one
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Post by throbak on Nov 26, 2014 20:27:19 GMT -5
I do a50 cal. TC Omega
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Post by grey squirrel on Nov 26, 2014 21:00:35 GMT -5
I can't offer advice on prices, but I use a TC Omega ML for firearms as well. Love it!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 21:07:04 GMT -5
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Post by firstwd on Nov 26, 2014 21:41:51 GMT -5
You can get anything from $100 traditional side hammer to nearly a $1000 smokeless powder version. If money is the driving factor, I would suggest the CVA Wolf. They are around $170 at Wal-Mart with high-vis rifle sites. They use 209 shotgun primers, have a finger tight removable breech plug, but I don't believe they are rated for the 150 grain magnum loads. Honestly, I haven't found a reason to use them.
I spent years hunting all seasons in Indiana and Kentucky with a Navy Arms Countryboy inline. The only additions were a scope and changing the number 11 cap to a musket cap.
Front stuffers are great. There are endless combinations of bullets and powder so spend some money and lots of range time to get what your gun likes best.
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Post by GS1 on Nov 26, 2014 22:01:37 GMT -5
I bought my son a CVA Wolf and we put a scope on it, sighted it in and let him shoot it about 10 times. I had an issue with the hammer not wanting to come back, but I think it was because I closed it to easy. It's a good shooting gun for the price. I haven't been able to get the breech plug out without putting a pair if channel locks on it since the 4th shot, but it's not hard to get out. Just hard to get a grip on with the scope above it.
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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 26, 2014 22:09:07 GMT -5
What is a reversible hammer spur?
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Post by firstwd on Nov 26, 2014 22:16:23 GMT -5
A hammer spur is an extension to the side of the hammer so you can get your thumb on it with a scope, reversible for right or left hand shooters.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 26, 2014 22:16:35 GMT -5
Haven't had my Mossberg out for deer in many years. Just use the CVA all he way through firearms and ML seasons.
The second quick shot is usually not that helpful anyway. Knowing you have only one available makes you a tad more cautious about making it a good one, and that's a good thing.
I bought my CVA at a local pawn shop for $125. Added a scope that I'd paid less than fifty for years back, but the fiber optic open sights that came on the CV would have been completely adequate, and I'd have just gone with them if I hadn't had the scope already.
It's a tackdriver with some 245 grain Powerbelt hollow points, and has been completely reliable with the 209 ignition.
Mine's not for sale, but I'd recommend the brand and style as being completely adequate and very good values.
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Post by single_shooter on Nov 27, 2014 1:04:36 GMT -5
Me, my wife and our two boys have used T/C Encore muzzleloaders for years. One time I watched 4 does walk past me. Using an old sniper trick I started at the back and worked my way forward to get three of the four before they got out of range. Hunting season over in one morning...freezer full and farmer happy that I reduced his herd.
We prefer muzzleloaders over shotguns and only use two 50 grain pellets for hunting and 70-100 grains of loose powder for practice.
unfortunately Proboards won't allow this (now who knows what is contained in a PM)
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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 27, 2014 8:41:49 GMT -5
I think I'm gonna get the wolf what kind of loads is everyone shooting and at what ranges
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Post by saltydog on Nov 27, 2014 9:43:09 GMT -5
Personally I use 100grs of Jim Shocky's American Pioneer Gold 2f or 3f powder and 245gr Powerbelts green tips.
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Post by maddog on Nov 27, 2014 11:20:56 GMT -5
I've had a CVA wolf for several years. My load for it is 90 gr. of triple 7 3f and a 295 gr. power belt aero tip bullets. Have shot several deer with that set up. I just happen to prefer loose pwder to pellets. Probably goes back to the days when I hunted with a side lock and real black powder. maddog
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Post by thecommissioner on Nov 27, 2014 11:55:42 GMT -5
You can't beat the TC Impact for the money. Not sure what they sell for now but they have a trigger of a much more expensive rifle.
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Post by ridgerunner on Nov 27, 2014 12:30:08 GMT -5
I have a CVA Accura V2 excellent ML.. very accurate. I never use a shotgun any more..if I do not kill in bow season and have to hunt firearms..I've got the CVA Accura V2.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 27, 2014 13:32:42 GMT -5
Does anyone hunt through firearms to bonus antlerless exclusively with one? I have for the last few seasons. I'm packing a T/C Omega Z5 with Nikon Omega scope. I'm using 100 grains (two pellets) of Triple 7 and a 250-grain Shockwave sabot.
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Post by trapperdave on Nov 27, 2014 19:18:24 GMT -5
$99 cva magnum hunter with a $50 scope......Ive killed more deer with this gun than I can remember off hand
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 29, 2014 0:12:06 GMT -5
I like 90 grains of Pyrodex and the Powerbelt 245 grain bullets I mentioned above.
I bought a half dozen plastic "cartridges" to carry the reloads with me. Those Powerbelt bullets start easily enough that no short starter is needed. I just pour in the powder then push the bullet out the other end just a quarter inch or so and start the skirt in the muzzle, then push it the rest of the way in with the ramrod. Quick and easy, more convenient than carrying a "possibles bag" with all the other reloading accessories.
I checked the accuracy repeatedly, and the gun is accurate with that load for five or six shots with no between-round cleaning needed for accuracy or reloading ease. That's plenty for hunting. If I'm taking it out to the practice range for a longer session, I take the rest of the gear and swab the barrel more frequently to maintain easy loading.
One other tip I learned the hard way...take something to protect the muzzle from catching any raindrops. It doesn't take a lot of rain, just a few drops in a light drizzle can be enough if you're resting the gun with the barrel facing upwards. It will trickle down the bore and dampen your powder, and spoil your whole day if that big old buck strolls out in front of you. With most guns it works best to remove the factory front sight, if you're using a scope or red dot anyway, for easy application and removal of the "raincoat".
I use party balloons that were about a hundred to dollar bag at Walmart. The gun shoots through the balloon with no ill effect on the shot's performance or accuracy. I think that is one area where the Powerbelts may be more susceptible than patched balls or even lubed bullets. They can all let the moisture get through, but IMO, the seal provided by the Powerbelts is probably the least effective in preventing the problem.
A cap holder is another worthwhile accessory. I like the "dogbone" style. Holds plenty of 209 primers and is big enough and has a distinctive enough shape to be easily found in the jacket pocket.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 1, 2014 18:05:30 GMT -5
So I am looking between the cva wolf and the cva buckhorn
I don't know if I want a bolt or break action? I guess I don't know what disadvantages either would bring
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Post by mstr2175 on Dec 1, 2014 22:47:13 GMT -5
I bought the CVA wolf not long ago. It's my first muzzle loader. I haven't had any problems with it thus far. I like the break action because it makes cleaning the barrel very easy. Shooting 250 grain sabots with 100 grain pellets. I haven't had it for all that long so I might try a few other shots and narrow in on something different but I like that set up for now.
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