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Post by 10point on Dec 18, 2014 16:42:06 GMT -5
Had a guy from Indy that hunt's down the road from me stop this summer said he had a CO show up at his house this spring and was given a couple ticket's. Seems he posted a pic of a nice buck he killed last year on facebook and the CO followed up through the check station whom checked the deer in as a button buck instead of a antlered buck. He insist's he told check station antlered buck instead of button but Co told him it was his responsibility to make sure was checked in correctly so in the end he had to pay fine for improperly tagged deer. Wow, I guess that's a good reason to use the online check in.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 18, 2014 16:46:50 GMT -5
Had a guy from Indy that hunt's down the road from me stop this summer said he had a CO show up at his house this spring and was given a couple ticket's. Seems he posted a pic of a nice buck he killed last year on facebook and the CO followed up through the check station whom checked the deer in as a button buck instead of a antlered buck. He insist's he told check station antlered buck instead of button but Co told him it was his responsibility to make sure was checked in correctly so in the end he had to pay fine for improperly tagged deer. Why would this be two tickets?
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Dec 18, 2014 19:32:12 GMT -5
COs have a tough job and are spread pretty thin at times. I know I have personally got a poacher a citation or two from something posted on the internet. I usually try to follow up on things I've reported and they will usually respond as to the outcome.
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 18, 2014 19:43:21 GMT -5
At least the CO's are being proactive and looking for violations instead of like some law enforcement divisions who wait for some local citizen to investigate and hand deliver them a case...I applaud all Co's they have a tough job.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 18, 2014 20:13:01 GMT -5
illegally tagged deer and False informing I believe were the two citation's..
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Dec 18, 2014 23:09:00 GMT -5
I say props to COs and you, they did their job and you sound like you understood how the misunderstanding would have occurred...and shoot I say props to whomever reported the "suspicion" from the IDNR page. Good deal all the way around.
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Post by drs on Dec 19, 2014 4:40:04 GMT -5
I'm surprised the CO's couldn't just look up how you checked them in. You'd think that if they had this ability, they would have done that before showing up at your doorstep... Down here in Kentucky, our Telecheck system for reporting Deer or Turkey harvest lists the names of successful Hunters. When the Deer are called in the Hunter receives a conformation number. This number is required when the Hunter's Deer is taken to a processor, or if he/she is visited by a Conservation Officer. Must add that all Deer must be tagged in the field, and recorded in a log booklet which must be kept by the Hunter.
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Post by GS1 on Dec 19, 2014 6:09:27 GMT -5
Must add that all Deer must be tagged in the field, and recorded in a log booklet which must be kept by the Hunter. I knew they had to be recorded on the log before moving the animal, but didn't realize they had to be tagged in the field. When did Kentucky start that?
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2014 6:33:01 GMT -5
I'm surprised the CO's couldn't just look up how you checked them in. You'd think that if they had this ability, they would have done that before showing up at your doorstep... Down here in Kentucky, our Telecheck system for reporting Deer or Turkey harvest lists the names of successful Hunters. When the Deer are called in the Hunter receives a conformation number. This number is required when the Hunter's Deer is taken to a processor, or if he/she is visited by a Conservation Officer. Must add that all Deer must be tagged in the field, and recorded in a log booklet which must be kept by the Hunter. Hopefully Indiana will follow suit with a public searchable data base once they go to a full electronic check in. There is no regulation for "tagging the deer in the field" in Kentucky. One must fill out the harvest tag upon kill, but you keep it in your pocket/billfold. At no time is that attached to the deer/turkey/bobcat/whatever.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 19, 2014 7:49:21 GMT -5
Must add that all Deer must be tagged in the field, and recorded in a log booklet which must be kept by the Hunter. I knew they had to be recorded on the log before moving the animal, but didn't realize they had to be tagged in the field. When did Kentucky start that? Yep, unless that is new entering it in your log is all that is required.
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Post by esshup on Dec 19, 2014 9:58:49 GMT -5
Down here in Kentucky, our Telecheck system for reporting Deer or Turkey harvest lists the names of successful Hunters. When the Deer are called in the Hunter receives a conformation number. This number is required when the Hunter's Deer is taken to a processor, or if he/she is visited by a Conservation Officer. Must add that all Deer must be tagged in the field, and recorded in a log booklet which must be kept by the Hunter. Hopefully Indiana will follow suit with a public searchable data base once they go to a full electronic check in. There is no regulation for "tagging the deer in the field" in Kentucky. One must fill out the harvest tag upon kill, but you keep it in your pocket/billfold. At no time is that attached to the deer/turkey/bobcat/whatever. I don't know if I'm in favor of the publically searchable database. I know I'm unscrewing the lid to the can of worms here, but I think that could be another way to publically list firearm owners........ After all, method of take is on the form.
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Post by drs on Dec 19, 2014 10:11:24 GMT -5
Must add that all Deer must be tagged in the field, and recorded in a log booklet which must be kept by the Hunter. I knew they had to be recorded on the log before moving the animal, but didn't realize they had to be tagged in the field. When did Kentucky start that? One must have in his/her possession a tag. When they harvest their Deer, they sign the tag and indicate what the sex of the Deer. THEN, they write in their log sheet the date of harvest, county of harvested Deer, and sex of the Deer.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2014 10:24:34 GMT -5
I knew they had to be recorded on the log before moving the animal, but didn't realize they had to be tagged in the field. When did Kentucky start that? One must have in his/her possession a tag. When they harvest their Deer, they sign the tag and indicate what the sex of the Deer. THEN, they write in their log sheet the date of harvest, county of harvested Deer, and sex of the Deer. BUT deer do not need a tag affixed to them, right? Your original post led the unknowing to believe that the deer must be "tagged".
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Post by drs on Dec 19, 2014 10:28:52 GMT -5
One must have in his/her possession a tag. When they harvest their Deer, they sign the tag and indicate what the sex of the Deer. THEN, they write in their log sheet the date of harvest, county of harvested Deer, and sex of the Deer. BUT deer do not need a tag affixed to them, right? Your original post led the unknowing to believe that the deer must be "tagged". Correct, you don't have to affixed to your Deer harvest. Since I hunt on my own property, I still carry the Deer permit + Log sheet, and also call in the Deer harvested.
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Post by GS1 on Dec 19, 2014 10:28:58 GMT -5
Reason I questioned it is because I'm getting things together to take my son down there for the free youth weekend and was at work reading the regulations. All I found is that it does not need to be tagged unless it leaves your possession (taxidermist, processor, ect.) And found nothing about having to even make a tag out.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2014 10:32:00 GMT -5
Reason I questioned it is because I'm getting things together to take my son down there for the free youth weekend and was at work reading the regulations. All I found is that it does not need to be tagged unless it leaves your possession (taxidermist, processor, ect.) And found nothing about having to even make a tag out. There is a harvest form that you fill out as soon as you kill it. You keep that with you until you check it in and take it to a processor.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 19, 2014 10:38:16 GMT -5
Hopefully Indiana will follow suit with a public searchable data base once they go to a full electronic check in. There is no regulation for "tagging the deer in the field" in Kentucky. One must fill out the harvest tag upon kill, but you keep it in your pocket/billfold. At no time is that attached to the deer/turkey/bobcat/whatever. I don't know if I'm in favor of the publically searchable database. I know I'm unscrewing the lid to the can of worms here, but I think that could be another way to publically list firearm owners........ After all, method of take is on the form. Good question.. Kentucky does list "weapon" (I don't like that word for a hunting tool) that the hunter used. The state can still gather that same data without revealing it to the general public.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 19, 2014 10:51:02 GMT -5
I don't know if I'm in favor of the publically searchable database. I know I'm unscrewing the lid to the can of worms here, but I think that could be another way to publically list firearm owners........ After all, method of take is on the form. Good question.. Kentucky does list "weapon" (I don't like that word for a hunting tool) that the hunter used. The state can still gather that same data without revealing it to the general public. I concur....they can keep that in their own system...could just release date of harvest, I bow hunt year round so date means nothing as to what weapon was used.
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Post by chubwub on Dec 19, 2014 14:48:26 GMT -5
Also not a fan of anything that makes a list with names of weapon owners available to the public. Thieves can and will use these kinds of lists to identify homes that are guaranteed to have weapons. You are also giving animal rights people an open invitation to come to your home and harass you. It is one of the reasons I made a suggestion to DNR about allowing ladder stands that are placed on state ground to be identified with an individual's license number instead of making them hang a tag on their with their name and address.
Honestly, I am not a fan of most online record keeping for sensitive information, especially when it comes to the goverment. As we have seen in the news recently, now someone a continent away can hack into a database and walk away with everything in a matter of seconds.
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 19, 2014 15:13:07 GMT -5
My local check station lets me browse through their log book upon request. I caught a trespasser once that way. Guy shot a small buck that I let walk, then hurriedly drove in and retrieved it. After my hunt, I checked the log book to see who checked in a deer around that time (check station is probably a 1/2 mile from there), and the landowner knew the trespasser and confronted him.
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