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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Mar 19, 2015 20:13:16 GMT -5
The name of the outfitter is High Lonesome Outfitters and Guides. My buddy did speak to one reference already. We're not 100% set on this guy but, it's a start.
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Post by HuntMeister on Mar 20, 2015 5:40:08 GMT -5
I recall speaking to this outfit when I was researching drop camps a few years ago. Definitely not trying to discourage you but I understand that the Flattops can get pretty busy during hunting season. I would definitely not want a 2nd rifle season tag for that area. My biggest priority was to have a back country hunt with little to no people, killing an Elk was icing on the cake.
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Post by steiny on Mar 20, 2015 6:49:54 GMT -5
Quote from their website - Our permit covers 52,000 acres of forest, so limited hunting area is not a problem. This means they are the only permitted outfitter in this section of public land. No other outfitters can take paid clients into this 52,000 acres, but resident and non-resident hunters doing it on their own have every right to be there. Don't be surprised if you run into a few other hunters. The hunt I described above where we went 1 for 4 was this type of deal. If you're serious about wanting to kill an elk and that this this might be a once in a lifetime deal, get on a private ranch.
Another suggestion I would recommend is to set up your hunt through a reputable booking agent such as Cabelas or Jack Atcheson & Sons, rather than just searching the web on your own. Call them up and tell them what you are looking for, what your budget is, etc. and they will offer their ideas. It won't add any cost, they will give you the straight scoop, and they work with the best outfitters.
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Post by HuntMeister on Mar 20, 2015 8:27:26 GMT -5
Also, ask them how many camps they run on their 52K acres. When I did my research on drop camps, I talked to as many outfitters as I could find and asked them about their number of camps, what areas right down to the specific drainages and ridges they were permitted for and I generated a map using National Geographic's NF software. The picture that my completed outfitter map generated was a very high people density in the Flattops. Again, it is all about what you want from the experience. For me it was solitude and DIY type of hunt and I got that through much research. Have you put in for your preference point yet? Colorado's deadline for applying is usually the first few days of April. Wyoming is later in the year I believe. I know Antelope is end of September but not certain of the deadline for Elk.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Mar 20, 2015 20:06:25 GMT -5
Still have a couple weeks to get a pp in Colorado.. if you don't go until 2017, you might be able to draw a first season rifle tag or muzzleloader tag during the rut, depending on which unit you end up hunting. You have to pay the full tag cost up front, then the amount (minus the pp fee) is refunded after the draw.
As Huntmeister stated, you can just buy a pp for Wyoming online from July - September, completely separate from the draw.
I've never been to the flat-tops, but I do think there's a reason that many people go there - the White River N.F. is home to Colorado's largest elk herd.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Mar 20, 2015 23:21:05 GMT -5
Lots of good information. The outfitter says he only takes 1-2 per week. Hadn't thought about the fact that other resident hunters would be there. I definitely don't want to make the trip out there to watch other hunters walking the same mountain side. Lots of homework to do yet...
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 31, 2015 19:30:38 GMT -5
Lots of good information. The outfitter says he only takes 1-2 per week. Hadn't thought about the fact that other resident hunters would be there. I definitely don't want to make the trip out there to watch other hunters walking the same mountain side. Lots of homework to do yet... I do have a friend in Cheyenne Wyoming. His son is a fishing and hunting guide/lawyer. Not sure when he leaves, but I know that he guides in another country at a certain time of year. If nothing else, he might could make some suggestions.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Mar 31, 2015 19:39:49 GMT -5
Lots of good information. The outfitter says he only takes 1-2 per week. Hadn't thought about the fact that other resident hunters would be there. I definitely don't want to make the trip out there to watch other hunters walking the same mountain side. Lots of homework to do yet... I do have a friend in Cheyenne Wyoming. His son is a fishing and hunting guide/lawyer. Not sure when he leaves, but I know that he guides in another country at a certain time of year. If nothing else, he might could make some suggestions. COOL! Thanks John!
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 31, 2015 19:46:16 GMT -5
I do have a friend in Cheyenne Wyoming. His son is a fishing and hunting guide/lawyer. Not sure when he leaves, but I know that he guides in another country at a certain time of year. If nothing else, he might could make some suggestions. COOL! Thanks John! This guy doesn't have a computer, phone or microwave, so I'll have to write him a letter.
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Post by Genesis 27:3 on Apr 1, 2015 8:50:38 GMT -5
Not a thing wrong with that way of life.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Apr 1, 2015 9:30:16 GMT -5
Not a thing wrong with that way of life. Not at all. Now he's a guy who would hunt naked with a long bow. Actually, he is where I got the naked part of my attempted humor. He is a PhD Biologist, and was my boss for years. He once told me that he could walk to the edge of the woods, take off all his clothes, go in and never come back ...and die a happy man. He is a rugged burly old guy.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Apr 4, 2015 10:25:00 GMT -5
I actually have another friend visiting in Wyoming now. His brother's father-in-law (I know a guy who knows a guy) runs handicap elk hunts in Wyoming. At some point, I'm going to inquire about this. I'd sure like to do it, but I know I don't have the strength to get one in the traditional way of hunting one.
Now, I'm nothing more than a bait hunter. I'd actually like to shoot a baited black bear, and wouldn't feel any less about doing it.
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Post by steiny on May 14, 2015 13:06:55 GMT -5
Just booked an elk hunt in Utah for this fall. Looking forward to it already.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on May 14, 2015 18:20:05 GMT -5
Just booked an elk hunt in Utah for this fall. Looking forward to it already. Wow! Good luck, hope you get a whopper! I've never been to Utah, have considered applying there though.
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Post by steiny on May 15, 2015 6:16:54 GMT -5
Really wasn't planning on going west this fall, but my buddy that I went with last year called and said after some thought he had decided to do it again. Took me about 30 seconds to make up my mind to go.
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