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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 25, 2015 20:07:20 GMT -5
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 26, 2015 6:17:07 GMT -5
Like I posted on FB; SBR's are already legal it just adds SBS's. Come on NRA get it right.
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Post by greghopper on Mar 26, 2015 6:36:17 GMT -5
Like I posted on FB; SBR's are already legal it just adds SBS's. Come on NRA get it right. Why would anyone need a SBS  |
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 26, 2015 8:38:53 GMT -5
Like I posted on FB; SBR's are already legal it just adds SBS's. Come on NRA get it right. Why would anyone need a SBS While no doubt I'd rather have the carbine for home defense some people like a short shotgun for that use. |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 26, 2015 10:37:56 GMT -5
Why would anyone need a SBS While no doubt I'd rather have the carbine for home defense some people like a short shotgun for that use. From a personal perspective, I don't like them telling me that I can't have any kind of gun whether I'd buy one or not. I guess this is the hillbilly coming out in me. How short art they talking about? |
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Post by dbd870 on Mar 26, 2015 11:22:20 GMT -5
Short as you would like, and I agree they shouldn't be able to tell you what kind of gun you can own in the first place. (yes, I include full auto in that)
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 26, 2015 11:43:37 GMT -5
Short as you would like, and I agree they shouldn't be able to tell you what kind of gun you can own in the first place. (yes, I include full auto in that) I am with you! ...even full automatics. Someday when all hell breaks loose, I want any weapon that THEY will be able to use against me. Well, I guess I don't want a WMD, but you know what I mean. I wouldn't last long in a battle anyway, but I'd want to put up a good fight. I understand the debate against some people not being able to get them legally, but this has never stopped them. I don't want to see the era of the wild west return, just more like when kids use to fist fight. I don't pretend to have the best answers, I just don't want anyone regulating me when I don't hurt anyone who isn't intending on hurting me. ...know what I mean? |
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Post by greghopper on Mar 26, 2015 17:59:14 GMT -5
While no doubt I'd rather have the carbine for home defense some people like a short shotgun for that use. From a personal perspective, I don't like them telling me that I can't have any kind of gun whether I'd buy one or not. I guess this is the hillbilly coming out in me. How short art they talking about? John so your the type of person who thinks we need no laws or restriction on guns or maybe anything else??? |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 26, 2015 18:38:07 GMT -5
From a personal perspective, I don't like them telling me that I can't have any kind of gun whether I'd buy one or not. I guess this is the hillbilly coming out in me. How short art they talking about? John so your the type of person who thinks we need no laws or restriction on guns or maybe anything else??? LOL, Well I guess I expected this. I did say it was my hillbilly coming out. |
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Post by swilk on Mar 26, 2015 18:59:12 GMT -5
Many acts are and will remain illegal regardless of the tool used. Full auto firearm or hammer....the tool don't matter.
I'd like the option....freedom if you will...to purchase just about any firearm on earth I could want and afford. Need shouldn't ever be a consideration in what I can own. I don't need a car that can go 200mph but I can go buy one any time I want.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 26, 2015 19:15:27 GMT -5
Many acts are and will remain illegal regardless of the tool used. Full auto firearm or hammer....the tool don't matter. I'd like the option....freedom if you will...to purchase just about any firearm on earth I could want and afford. Need shouldn't ever be a consideration in what I can own. I don't need a car that can go 200mph but I can go buy one any time I want. Mr Swilk, you know that I have a weak heart, and agreeing with me is likely to push me over the edge. LOL I've been trying all day to get someone to bite. I just have too much time on my hands these days. |
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Post by greghopper on Mar 26, 2015 19:27:50 GMT -5
Many acts are and will remain illegal regardless of the tool used. Full auto firearm or hammer....the tool don't matter. I'd like the option....freedom if you will...to purchase just about any firearm on earth I could want and afford. Need shouldn't ever be a consideration in what I can own. I don't need a car that can go 200mph but I can go buy one any time I want. So where does "SAFTEY" fall in your consideration's in what you or anyone can buy or own?? |
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Post by swilk on Mar 26, 2015 19:31:19 GMT -5
Safety remains the same priority no matter if its a pink .22 crickett or a fully auto 5.56 rifle.....
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 26, 2015 19:46:13 GMT -5
Many acts are and will remain illegal regardless of the tool used. Full auto firearm or hammer....the tool don't matter. I'd like the option....freedom if you will...to purchase just about any firearm on earth I could want and afford. Need shouldn't ever be a consideration in what I can own. I don't need a car that can go 200mph but I can go buy one any time I want. So where does "SAFTEY" fall in your consideration's in what you or anyone can buy or own?? I'll be serious for a minute or two, but that's it. Greg, help me understand how far you want regulations to go. Do you think it should be on a "needs" basis or what? I don't want the average guy to be able to buy WMD, so this may sound a little hypocritical of me. I really don't pretend to know the answers to our problems. I'm just admitting that I don't like our government telling what I can and cannot have. I just don't like it, but didn't like my mom telling me that I couldn't eat chocolate cake for dinner either. I'm just rebellious in a mellow kind of way I guess. |
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Post by 36fan on Mar 26, 2015 19:53:47 GMT -5
Many acts are and will remain illegal regardless of the tool used. Full auto firearm or hammer....the tool don't matter. I'd like the option....freedom if you will...to purchase just about any firearm on earth I could want and afford. Need shouldn't ever be a consideration in what I can own. I don't need a car that can go 200mph but I can go buy one any time I want. So where does "SAFTEY" fall in your consideration's in what you or anyone can buy or own?? With your brain and keeping the booger hook off the bang lever. |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 26, 2015 20:02:56 GMT -5
I know Greg is making a valid point and I appreciate that.
I really don't know where the line should be drawn. We pay politicians to make these decisions so that we'll have some to sit around and complain about.
Seriously, can you imagine how boring it would be without liberals??? There wouldn't be any reason to ask how one is doing. How are you doing today Jon?
"Oh, you know, same ole same ole; Just another day in paradise."
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Post by greghopper on Mar 26, 2015 20:10:10 GMT -5
John, this country has a foundation that exists largely on laws and restrictions that define the limits of what freedom is....."Freedom" is not always doing what money can buy!!
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Post by 36fan on Mar 26, 2015 20:24:00 GMT -5
The country is based on liberty, not freedom. There is a difference. The end of the Pledge of Allegiance states, "...with Liberty and Justice for all." From dictionary.reference.com/browse/libertyLiberty: 1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control. 2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence. 3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice. 4. freedom from captivity, confinement, or physical restraint: The prisoner soon regained his liberty.5. permission granted to a sailor, especially in the navy, to go ashore. 6. freedom or right to frequent or use a place: The visitors were given the liberty of the city.7. unwarranted or impertinent freedom in action or speech, or a form or instance of it: to take liberties. |
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Post by greghopper on Mar 26, 2015 20:37:23 GMT -5
The country is based on liberty, not freedom. There is a difference. The end of the Pledge of Allegiance states, "...with Liberty and Justice for all." From dictionary.reference.com/browse/libertyLiberty: 1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control. 2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence. 3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice. 4. freedom from captivity, confinement, or physical restraint: The prisoner soon regained his liberty.5. permission granted to a sailor, especially in the navy, to go ashore. 6. freedom or right to frequent or use a place: The visitors were given the liberty of the city.7. unwarranted or impertinent freedom in action or speech, or a form or instance of it: to take liberties.1. Freedom, independence, liberty refer to an absence of undue restrictions and an opportunity to exercise one's rights and powers. Freedom emphasizes the opportunity given for the exercise of one's rights, powers, desires, or the like: "freedom of speech or conscience; freedom of movement." Independence implies not only lack of restrictions but also the ability to stand alone, unsustained by anything else: "Independence of thought promotes invention and discovery." Liberty, though most often interchanged with freedom, is also used to imply undue exercise of freedom: |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Mar 26, 2015 20:47:45 GMT -5
John, this country has a foundation that exists largely on laws and restrictions that define the limits of what freedom is....."Freedom" is not always doing what money can buy!! Now Greg, who's kidding who here. I can't remember how Mike said it in the Godfather when Kate said that politicians don't go around killing people like the mob does. I totally understand what you are saying Greg and I'm glad that you are saying it. I've been lonely for human interaction all day. All I have is my dog until my wife gets home. I get lonely for someone to talk with. I know that I don't need much of what I have and little of what I desire, but I still think I should be able to have any weapon that I want. Of course, I don't mean a nuke, so where to draw the line??? I don't really want to think about it. I might like to have a rocket launcher some day if all hell breaks loose ...I don't know. Bottom line, I think this old fat guy should be able to buy a fully automatic weapon, and the only person who should have to worry that I have one is the guy coming to take it away. |
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