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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Apr 10, 2015 21:05:13 GMT -5
Any idea whey Farm Bureau would be for this bill?
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Post by span870 on Apr 11, 2015 7:04:23 GMT -5
Any idea whey Farm Bureau would be for this bill? I'd assume they view the deer as livestock and being a lobbyist for livestock farmers it would fall into that area.
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Post by throbak on Apr 11, 2015 7:27:19 GMT -5
One member on the FB board is a Deer Farmer
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Post by drs on Apr 12, 2015 4:11:31 GMT -5
One member on the FB board is a Deer Farmer Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest??
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Post by throbak on Apr 12, 2015 8:58:31 GMT -5
If its Like the Swcd board only if you dont fill out the required paperwork and disclose it I saw Wisconsin's FBBoard has deer farmers on it as do I am guessing lots of other states
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 12, 2015 13:14:54 GMT -5
Simple.. The Farm Bureau considers deer producers as farmers..
As such they can sit in the FB board...
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Post by greghopper on Apr 12, 2015 21:39:50 GMT -5
The following letter was sent to all Indiana Senators:
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Confirming Hunters and Conservationists Oppose HB1453 Hunting Preserves - Canned Hunting
Dear Senator,
This letter is to confirm that the statewide organizations of hunters and conservationists listed below oppose HB1453 Hunting Preserves, aka Canned Hunting.
Indiana Wildlife Federation Indiana Division of the Izaak Walton League of America Indiana Sportsmen’s Round Table Indiana Deer Hunters Association Indiana Bow Hunter Association Indiana Conservation Alliance Quality Deer Management Association Indiana Conservation Officer Organization National Wild Turkey Federation - Indiana Numerous additional local and regional conservation and hunting organizations The potential amendment to limit the bill to the four existing preserves is not a fix for a terrible bill. The false message that hunting preserves are unregulated and need regulation is misleading the Senate. Hunting preserves are currently illegal and the four that are operating are doing so under a court injunction.
To pass HB1453 legalizing canned hunting just to address the issue with the existing four is not the right decision.
Legalizing the four will lead to expansion of canned hunting.
Canned hunting is not ethical hunting and violates fair chase, threatens the health of the wild deer herd, and puts taxpayers and sports men’s and women’s dollars at risk.
Thank you for your thoughtful consideration of the hunter/conservationist position.
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Post by mizepd on Apr 13, 2015 3:56:32 GMT -5
Everyone has their own opinion but mine is based on ethics. We put people in jail for dog and cock fighting due to the cruelty of the actions. Why is not "fenced in hunting" viewed in the same light?? In most cases they are tame deer, shot with steroids, in some cases drugged, with no escape possible. Who cares?? We all should IMO! I am for the free market as well as long as something makes sense to me. Fenced in hunting does not make sense to me so I have been on board writing email to all the politicians in the House and Senate. Sometimes I get a reply and sometimes I don't but I will keep writing until they finally decide on way or another on "Fenced Hunting". Hopefully ethics prevails here!
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Post by drs on Apr 13, 2015 4:26:55 GMT -5
Simple.. The Farm Bureau considers deer producers as farmers.. As such they can sit in the FB board... Sounds like the proverbial "Fox guarding the Chicken House". Why not have more qualified personnel on the FB Board, like Biologists, Outdoor Writers, Veterinarians, if there isn't already.
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Post by moose1am on Apr 13, 2015 12:18:39 GMT -5
I asked my State Senator Venita Becker to vote against fenced in deer hunting. It should be illegal to fence the deer in like that and let someone pay to hunt them inside a small fenced in area. That is not hunting. That's a slaughter house.
Moose1am
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 13, 2015 12:31:36 GMT -5
Dear Friend of Wildlife,
(If you support wildlife and the work the Indiana Wildlife Federation does, please join today to help us continue this important work of speaking for wildlife.)
The canned hunting fight is down to the wire. Last week HB1453 was up for third reading, which means the Senate was going to vote on whether to legalize canned hunting. The Senate sponsor, Senator Sue Glick, pulled the bill and there was no vote. The bill is being amended and will be back for discussion and vote Monday, Tuesday of this week. It's a very good sign that the bill was pulled--there were clearly not enough votes to pass the bill.
Regardless of the amendments, it will still be a bad bill. We don't know what the amendment says but have heard it will limit the bill to the just the four existing canned hunting operations. We all know this is just the "camel's nose under the tent" as some say. Legalizing four opens the door for all.
Please call your Senator once again and reinforce the message that you oppose canned hunting and ask them to vote NO on HB1453 regardless of the window dressing amendments. We can beat this bad bill if we all keep communicating with our legislators! Find your legislator here.
Yours in Conservation,
Barb Simpson
The following letter was sent to all Indiana Senators:
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Confirming Hunters and Conservationists Oppose HB1453 Hunting Preserves - Canned Hunting
Dear Senator,
This letter is to confirm that the statewide organizations of hunters and conservationists listed below oppose HB1453 Hunting Preserves, aka Canned Hunting.
Indiana Wildlife Federation Indiana Division of the Izaak Walton League of America Indiana Sportsmen’s Round Table Indiana Deer Hunters Association Indiana Bow Hunter Association Indiana Conservation Alliance Quality Deer Management Association Indiana Conservation Officer Organization National Wild Turkey Federation - Indiana Numerous additional local and regional conservation and hunting organizations The potential amendment to limit the bill to the four existing preserves is not a fix for a terrible bill. The false message that hunting preserves are unregulated and need regulation is misleading the Senate. Hunting preserves are currently illegal and the four that are operating are doing so under a court injunction.
To pass HB1453 legalizing canned hunting just to address the issue with the existing four is not the right decision.
Legalizing the four will lead to expansion of canned hunting.
Canned hunting is not ethical hunting and violates fair chase, threatens the health of the wild deer herd, and puts taxpayers and sports men’s and women’s dollars at risk.
Thank you for your thoughtful consideration of the hunter/conservationist position.
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Post by jjas on Apr 13, 2015 15:24:29 GMT -5
I listened in today and what I found most interesting (if I understood it correctly) is that while there are only 4 preserves to be allowed, the license for those preserves can be sold or leased to other operators. And if that occurs (and a different site is to be used) the other site has to be closed down.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Apr 13, 2015 16:43:13 GMT -5
Since they will be on private property, can they allow weapons that aren't currently legal for hunting?
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Post by greghopper on Apr 13, 2015 17:04:42 GMT -5
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Post by drs on Apr 14, 2015 4:18:54 GMT -5
I asked my State Senator Venita Becker to vote against fenced in deer hunting. It should be illegal to fence the deer in like that and let someone pay to hunt them inside a small fenced in area. That is not hunting. That's a slaughter house. Moose1am CORRECT!!My Brother-in-law knows Senator Becker, as they both attended the same High School. I don't think she would vote for a bill to allow Fenced Hunting.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Apr 14, 2015 10:38:37 GMT -5
I really didn't have an opinion on this bill, but mostly because I've never really thought much about it.
I'm thinking I'm against the bill, but honestly, I'm not sure why. I can't say that I have a valid reason to restrict one's pursuit of a dream, but I'm thinking that I just don't like the idea of it. I really don't think more disease will come from them. Nope, it's not real hunting, but I'll never be a real hunter.
I think it's enough just for me to say that I don't like the idea of it, but I sure could be wrong for thinking this way.
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Post by onebentarrow on Apr 14, 2015 16:09:58 GMT -5
but I'll never be a real hunter.
Please correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember u laying in a creek to take a buck u had been pursuing a year or two back. If that is not a real hunter I do not think any one could qualified (sp)
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 14, 2015 16:13:10 GMT -5
but I'll never be a real hunter. Please correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember u laying in a creek to take a buck u had been pursuing a year or two back. If that is not a real hunter I do not think any one could qualified (sp) Agree... That is above and beyond what I would do..
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Post by jjas on Apr 14, 2015 19:44:39 GMT -5
The bill failed 27-22
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Post by greghopper on Apr 14, 2015 19:49:03 GMT -5
The Indiana senate has voted down a bill that would legalize four high fence hunting preserves. Up to Supreme Court now
WTG....
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