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Post by HighCotton on May 24, 2015 8:01:56 GMT -5
I live on the south side of Indy. I have read articles recently that Perry Township alone has had an influx of Chin or Burmese in the past 5 years of somewhere between 14,000 and 20,000 people. Most articles say that the Catholic church and some of their associations are the drive behind bringing these people here as they have faced severe persecution in their homeland. Chin churches, restaurants, stores, etc. are popping up by the day around here. All you have to do is stop at the local BMV and see that on any given day, 90%+ are Chin people waiting or in line. I have had no correspondence or issue with them up to this point. However, last night got crazy in our historical town of Homecroft. It appears that a Chin family has bought the house across the street from me. This is where it got ugly. Take a look: At the peak, there were 18 cars parked in their front yard and driveway. They were backing and jockeying in my front yard to wedge their way to find parking spots. 3 more cars were parked on my 2 neighbors lawns. And this is as I was mowing my own yard. A dozen kids were running through the neighborhood and across the street under no control at all. Even more baffling to me is it appears most of the cars are easily 2010 models and newer. Confused and a bit bewildered, I'm just trying to keep my emotions in check. But, something is QUITE AWRY here IMHO!!! Anybody have any factual data to explain what is going on here?
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Post by nfalls116 on May 24, 2015 8:31:27 GMT -5
Facts: 1. you live in a city 2.there are lots of people with various feelings of What is acceptable and what is not that live in a city. But think about this. They are in fact here and celebrating our holidays? When you were a kid did you have parents following you around constantly?
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Post by nfalls116 on May 24, 2015 8:32:46 GMT -5
And just be glad its not a group of addicts of any drug
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Post by HighCotton on May 24, 2015 8:58:34 GMT -5
A little further explanation. The best I can tell, this is most likely NOT a holiday celebration/get together. This house has been vacant for months, at least until last night. Strangely, they all arrived pretty much at the same time. They did not move anything into the house. They weren't even carrying chairs. I'm just describing the scene as it unfolded while I was mowing. I have no issue with them being Chin. As most on this site know by now, my wife is Dutch. Her parents came here from Holland in 1956. I'm ok with them being from another land. But I will also say that when my father in law came here he in no way looked for government assistance. He and his wife spent years, paying out of their pocket, going to night school to learn English. He came here to be an American. Yes, he has some Dutch customs he still adheres to like the food they eat but he ultimately came to this land to be an American. So I'll cut to the chase...I WANT TO KNOW IF THE CHIN PEOPLE RECEIVE GOVERNMENT FUNDING! Not that there is anything I can do about it. I would just like to know.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 9:01:25 GMT -5
I have no idea about the party or whatever it was going on in your neighborhood, hopefully that is an isolated thing and doesn't become regular. However, I do know this, Indy is becoming more and more a cosmopolitan, global city. Most of the school systems in Marion County have between 50-100 nationalities represented within the student population. That has grown a lot in the last 15 years and will continue to grow. I attended a conference last week about Indiana's global economy. It is astounding how many foreign nations have invested in Indiana in the last couple decades! Changing world.
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Post by HighCotton on May 24, 2015 9:08:21 GMT -5
I have no idea about the party or whatever it was going on in your neighborhood, hopefully that is an isolated thing and doesn't become regular. However, I do know this, Indy is becoming more and more a cosmopolitan, global city. Most of the school systems in Marion County have between 50-100 nationalities represented within the student population. That has grown a lot in the last 15 years and will continue to grow. I attended a conference last week about Indiana's global economy. It is astounding how many foreign nations have invested in Indiana in the last couple decades! Changing world. Hey meta...the best you can tell, are the people pretty much decent contributors to the community? Or are they more of a burden? Do they seem to assimilate fairly well in the school system? I'm cool with reaching out to them. After all, they will be my neighbors. I just want to have a better understanding of the whole picture.
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Post by nfalls116 on May 24, 2015 9:20:53 GMT -5
Well I have experience with most nationalities and Asians to me seem to be the least likely to think we owe them something and usually are very dedicated to their work and family I don't know if they recieve government assistance or not
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 13:01:54 GMT -5
I have no idea about the party or whatever it was going on in your neighborhood, hopefully that is an isolated thing and doesn't become regular. However, I do know this, Indy is becoming more and more a cosmopolitan, global city. Most of the school systems in Marion County have between 50-100 nationalities represented within the student population. That has grown a lot in the last 15 years and will continue to grow. I attended a conference last week about Indiana's global economy. It is astounding how many foreign nations have invested in Indiana in the last couple decades! Changing world. Hey meta...the best you can tell, are the people pretty much decent contributors to the community? Or are they more of a burden? Do they seem to assimilate fairly well in the school system? I'm cool with reaching out to them. After all, they will be my neighbors. I just want to have a better understanding of the whole picture. I see mostly kids, of course. Most assimilate quickly. Probably much more quickly than the parents do. Where I teach, we get a lot of refugees from war torn parts of Africa.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 24, 2015 14:31:15 GMT -5
No one wants that scene across the street or next door, no matter what the situation. You probably have county ordinances against what you see.
I'm just down the road from you in Johnson County. I know we have an ordinance that cars cannot park on the street past 11pm Monday-Thursday. ...even on a subdivision court.
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Post by duff on May 24, 2015 17:20:02 GMT -5
This makes me think of one of Clint Eastwood movie. Can't think of the name but it was a great movie.
My neighbors do the same thing out in rural Lawrence Co. They even park in my yard. It's all good. Figure if I need that spot I will have them move. I find it funny my daughter used to get fired up about people parking in our yard. She doesn't care any more but it still fired up my dad when he visits. Cracks me up. I have more to worry about than someone parking in my yard. They are not rutting it up or throwing trash.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 24, 2015 17:44:41 GMT -5
It does take a lot to ruffle my feathers these days, but I can see why he's not happy.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 24, 2015 17:51:51 GMT -5
At work, I asked our HR and legal department if we had a corporate agenda to hire Chinese Americans. It truly seemed that every scientist, especially senior one was Chinese. People would joke around our department that it was the Chinese mafia. Our Exec. Director and Director were Chinese and most all senior scientist.
Of course, neither the legal or HR department would answer my question. It was like trying to get answers on Benghazi.
My thinking is and was that we were trying to get into the Chinese market, and it looked good to hire them.
We did get limited access there, and we got an email that when in China that we should assume that all our conversations were being monitored by the Chinese government.
It is a huge market, and any business wants part of it.
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Post by swilk on May 24, 2015 18:22:27 GMT -5
This makes me think of one of Clint Eastwood movie. Can't think of the name but it was a great movie. Gran Torino.
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Post by duff on May 24, 2015 19:41:18 GMT -5
That's it. Thanks, was bugging me!
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Post by freedomhunter on May 25, 2015 6:28:10 GMT -5
If you live in or around southport you will have to accept they have invaded. I dated a woman that lives in that neighborhood but didn't have any living close. You have to watch the ones that actually drive very closely. Have seen them get into some accidents that had me scratching my head. A lot of them have a hard time seeing over the steering wheel.
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Post by chubwub on May 26, 2015 12:58:55 GMT -5
I work with a lot of Asians from all over the place. I have a lot of fun with them, they have a great sense of humor, good work ethic and have no qualms about learning new things. They take pride in mastering English and immersing themselves in our culture. They treat me with respect and are very forthcoming about their homelands. But I am privileged in dealing with the absolute best these countries have to offer.
My biggest complaint about them, and this seems to be true for a lot of lower class foreigners...many of them have very little respect, regard or concept of conservation and sustainable harvest. They will fish out a hole faster then any redneck I've seen and will take every fish they catch big or small and use cast nets. Even if caught they will go buy a new one and keep willingly breaking the law. Ask any CO about the Asian invasion down in Monroe...I'm sure they'll have stories.
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Post by HighCotton on May 28, 2015 20:15:41 GMT -5
Between a new grandson and working late this week, it's been very busy. Tonight was a bit more relaxing. While working my bird dogs, I saw the new neighbors working like bees on the house across the street. So, when I finished with the dogs, I walked over to introduce myself. The first two fellows I met apparently spoke no English and pointed to another guy. I walked over to him and he introduced himself as "John" and through some sign language and such, I guess he is the one that bought the house. It got a bit more comical as I tried to find out who all was going to live there. Onward with the droid and Google. After quite some time I got this: He is married. He and his wife will live there come June 1st. And they have no kids. And he is from Myanmar (Burma). It's amazing... The power of a little Droid!!! So we'll see how it goes. This much I have observed so far: They seem to be very community minded. They are very hard workers. They seem to be very happy, smiley people. They are a small people. They are all very trim. Not a fat one in the bunch. I seriously felt like an overweight Goliath standing amongst them. And for the most part they speak little to no English. I figure, hey they're gonna be my neighbors. I might as well get to know them. For the last few minutes they practiced saying my name and my wife's name as I tried to explain that if they needed something to come over, knock on the door, and say our names! This is kind of turning into a fun little game at this point!
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 28, 2015 20:36:29 GMT -5
Between a new grandson and working late this week, it's been very busy. Tonight was a bit more relaxing. While working my bird dogs, I saw the new neighbors working like bees on the house across the street. So, when I finished with the dogs, I walked over to introduce myself. The first two fellows I met apparently spoke no English and pointed to another guy. I walked over to him and he introduced himself as "John" and through some sign language and such, I guess he is the one that bought the house. It got a bit more comical as I tried to find out who all was going to live there. Onward with the droid and Google. After quite some time I got this: He is married. He and his wife will live there come June 1st. And they have no kids. And he is from Myanmar (Burma). It's amazing... The power of a little Droid!!! So we'll see how it goes. This much I have observed so far: They seem to be very community minded. They are very hard workers. They seem to be very happy, smiley people. They are a small people. They are all very trim. Not a fat one in the bunch. I seriously felt like an overweight Goliath standing amongst them. And for the most part they speak little to no English. I figure, hey they're gonna be my neighbors. I might as well get to know them. For the last few minutes they practiced saying my name and my wife's name as I tried to explain that if they needed something to come over, knock on the door, and say our names! This is kind of turning into a fun little game at this point! I bet they feel like they live in a land of giants.
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Post by Sasquatch on May 29, 2015 15:44:11 GMT -5
As for the absurd parking and driving on your yard:
I'd get used to it. People from third world crapholes aren't nearly as spoiled when it comes to living space as Americans; God only knows how many of them live there. I have also observed the homefront concepts such as "My driveway" and "my lawn" are utterly foreign to, well, many foreigners-- particularly non-Westerners. Weareas you or I would bend over backwards not to drive on someone's grass, almost like there is real barrier there, a lot of foreigners have no concept of this, or pretend they don't.
Very good of you to get to know them.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on May 29, 2015 16:24:13 GMT -5
As for the absurd parking and driving on your yard: I'd get used to it. People from third world crapholes aren't nearly as spoiled when it comes to living space as Americans; God only knows how many of them live there. I have also observed the homefront concepts such as "My driveway" and "my lawn" are utterly foreign to, well, many foreigners-- particularly non-Westerners. Weareas you or I would bend over backwards not to drive on someone's grass, almost like there is real barrier there, a lot of foreigners have no concept of this, or pretend they don't. Very good of you to get to know them. You are right in that this is all some people know. They're just doing what they do until they understand that it's not what we do. When my neighbor moved in, he built a huge garage. He was so apologetic about getting equipment and supplies on my yard. I didn't care what he did; now I have more things to worry about than my grass. He considers me royalty, because I didn't kick and scream about any of it. Hopefully, they're just over there helping out. In their minds, they may think they're being respectful by not parking in the street. We may be misunderstanding them. It doesn't seem that they are the most considerate people when going to Disney World.
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