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Post by swilk on Jul 3, 2015 10:21:46 GMT -5
Ooopsssss... One more thing. The DNR told me that there were only 1,448 deer reported killed using "deer damage control permits" in 2014. Impossible. The IWDHM page said the number was 4500.
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Post by jjas on Jul 3, 2015 10:25:29 GMT -5
And even if you did that throughout the state, what real difference would it make right now? Last season the late antlerless season total was 4,200 deer. That's 45 deer per county. Actually it is more than that. I think There were 64 counties that were eligible for the late season last year. That gives 65 per county. There are four less counties this year.. It's a good spigot to turn off and on for the DNR. The new DNR Directer controlled "Deer Reduction Zones" will be another management tool at their disposal .. I don't dispute that this is a good management tool for the DNR to have/use. But it won't "solve" the problem in some eyes. My point is, I think all of this talk of limits is getting a bit overblown and really won't make much of a difference in the harvest data. What will make a difference, is hunters taking stock of deer numbers in their areas and basing their harvest goals on those numbers.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 3, 2015 10:37:28 GMT -5
Ooopsssss... One more thing. The DNR told me that there were only 1,448 deer reported killed using "deer damage control permits" in 2014. Impossible. The IWDHM page said the number was 4500. Hmmm.. maybe I should have checked that page first before believing what the DBNR sent me?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 3, 2015 10:53:19 GMT -5
Ooopsssss... One more thing. The DNR told me that there were only 1,448 deer reported killed using "deer damage control permits" in 2014. Impossible. The IWDHM page said the number was 4500. I know what the difference is.. They know exactly how many deer were killed by farmers that WERE NOT reported.. I think the most that has ever been reported is 2,500 so I'm really not sure where they get that 4,500 number.. .
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Post by chubwub on Jul 3, 2015 11:00:58 GMT -5
Impossible. The IWDHM page said the number was 4500. I know what the difference is.. They know exactly how many deer were killed by farmers that WERE NOT reported.. I think the most that has ever been reported is 2,500 so I'm really not sure where they get that 4,500 number.. . That's amazing detective work, we should put these guys on a poaching task force.
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Post by firstwd on Jul 3, 2015 11:43:07 GMT -5
For the majority of hunters, absolutely nothing. And that is (and has been) my point. IMHO, we (as hunters) need to show a bit more restraint in the killing of does, buttons and fawns in many areas, but especially areas hit hard by hunting, EHD and rough Winters. I agree. Since everything to do with deer and deer hunting is a social issue, I think this might actually calm some of the social bickering.
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Post by windingwinds on Jul 3, 2015 20:15:25 GMT -5
Taking a county out of the bonus season doesn't change things much. It's generally cold by then, the big killing time is opening weekend of gun. All this limiting county quotas is going to do is spike populations in some areas (the better deer habitats) and not affect the populations in the bad habitat areas. Not going to make people better hunters either, those who cheat will continue to cheat. Those who sit for two weekends a year and complain they haven't seen deer will continue to complain.
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Post by boonechaser on Jul 6, 2015 7:58:30 GMT -5
Glad to see my home county lowered to 4 from 8, but would like to see it at 3 thus moving it out of the late antlerless season. Personally I don't hunt the late season nor do I know many that do. If we can get through this fall without any EHD outbreak's I think many will be surprised how quickly the deer herd can rebound.
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Post by tynimiller on Jul 6, 2015 8:47:12 GMT -5
Ooopsssss... One more thing. The DNR told me that there were only 1,448 deer reported killed using "deer damage control permits" in 2014. Is there anywhere to confirm this # Woody or is this personal dialogue. I suspected it was far less than what the doomsday sayers claim but this is even lower than I figured!
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Post by tynimiller on Jul 6, 2015 8:53:25 GMT -5
Taking a county out of the bonus season doesn't change things much. It's generally cold by then, the big killing time is opening weekend of gun. All this limiting county quotas is going to do is spike populations in some areas (the better deer habitats) and not affect the populations in the bad habitat areas. Not going to make people better hunters either, those who cheat will continue to cheat. Those who sit for two weekends a year and complain they haven't seen deer will continue to complain. windingwinds you nailed it bud. NAILED IT! I strongly believe habitat make up of an area isn't discussed enough when talking about localized herd sizes or sightings by the general population. One of the bigger issues I know some of our state parks and even some public hunting grounds I've visited is they're maturing to the point where understory and forage browse are all but gone during most of the year. So naturally the deer will be less, because less can be supported. Not too mention in other areas we're simply losing wildlife for development as well.....but even further is the hunters not seeing deer because they're doing nothing habitat wise but their neighbor has made his 20, 40, 100 acre spot a honeyhole with diverse brows and food.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 6, 2015 9:12:39 GMT -5
Ooopsssss... One more thing. The DNR told me that there were only 1,448 deer reported killed using "deer damage control permits" in 2014. Is there anywhere to confirm this # Woody or is this personal dialogue. I suspected it was far less than what the doomsday sayers claim but this is even lower than I figured! This was directly from the DNR individual that issues the permits and gathers the kill data. Since the DNR is very short handed on Deer Biologists there is no telling when the Deer Damage Harvest Report will come out, but you cant take that number to the bank.
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Post by benkharr on Oct 1, 2015 18:01:54 GMT -5
I read thru the regs quickly. I read something along the lines that if you purchase the deer bundle it could be used to take the bonus antlerless in the county. I found nothing on the price of additional tags in the license section.
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Post by bartiks on Oct 3, 2015 10:43:50 GMT -5
It seems that deer harvest is a lot like guns. In stead of controlling the people who are doing illegal things, some folks want to take more freedoms away from those law abiding people doing things right. HE(double hockey sticks) YES, I think it's funny how they keep punishing the people who walk the straight and narrow, but the ones who do get caught with the big offenses just get a slap on the wrist. I can't understand it.
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Post by benkharr on Oct 13, 2015 13:07:24 GMT -5
If you have a license bundle do you have to purchase additional tags for the additional antlerless?
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 14, 2015 6:20:20 GMT -5
The bundle gives you 3 deer - so once you get your 3 then any additional require one to purchase additional tags.
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