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Post by esshup on Aug 10, 2015 21:10:28 GMT -5
Ammonia is a byproduct of fish living in the water - it comes from their gills and from living in their own toilet. Ammonia is relatively toxic to fish - they don't have much tolerance for it, and Hydrogen Sulfide (the rotten egg smell in some water) is even more toxic to fish. Well water has 0 oxygen in it, but by splashing it around or running an aerator, it picks up O2 from the air very quickly. City water has chlorine or chloramine in it, and that kills fish too. There are products on the market that us fish haulers use to remove or neutralize ammonia, chlorine or chloramine in the water. We also use a Point Four micropore diffuser with pure O2 to help keep the fish alive. 2 products that I use are Blue Water Bait Treatment and N0-mmonia from Boatcycle. For minnows in a bait bucket, the O2 tabs work too. www.boatcycle.com/shop/Bait-Dealer%27s-Chemicals
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Post by nfalls116 on Aug 10, 2015 21:13:27 GMT -5
Ammonia is a byproduct of fish living in the water - it comes from their gills and from living in their own toilet. Ammonia is relatively toxic to fish - they don't have much tolerance for it, and Hydrogen Sulfide (the rotten egg smell in some water) is even more toxic to fish. Well water has 0 oxygen in it, but by splashing it around or running an aerator, it picks up O2 from the air very quickly. City water has chlorine or chloramine in it, and that kills fish too. There are products on the market that us fish haulers use to remove or neutralize ammonia, chlorine or chloramine in the water. We also use a Point Four micropore diffuser with pure O2 to help keep the fish alive. 2 products that I use are Blue Water Bait Treatment and N0-mmonia from Boatcycle. For minnows in a bait bucket, the O2 tabs work too. www.boatcycle.com/shop/Bait-Dealer%27s-Chemicalscool info
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Post by esshup on Aug 11, 2015 9:55:41 GMT -5
Also, when you do water changes, watch the water temperature. Get a cheap indoor/outdoor thermometer that is wired. Water temp shouldn't change more than 5 degrees per every 1/2 hr. or the minnows will be stressed and possibly die. A large pH change will also stress them, but for minnows I don't think it's worth getting a pH checker and the chemicals to change it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 21:57:14 GMT -5
well i got out and did a little crappie fishing was fishing with 3 12 ft poles with 2 jigs on each pole no minnows . had same amount straight tails as curly tails plus different sizes. thermacline was around 15 to 18 ft fish seemed to be mostly around 10 to12 ft. i set all poles at 10 ft. caught quite a few small crappie only 2 keepers. caught them all on strait tail , and i,d say90% on a electric chicken just seemed to like that color. maybe minnows would of caught more bigger ones. who knows water temp was 85, was fishing at bluegrass f&w
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Post by subzero350 on Aug 17, 2015 2:01:06 GMT -5
well i got out and did a little crappie fishing was fishing with 3 12 ft poles with 2 jigs on each pole no minnows . had same amount straight tails as curly tails plus different sizes. thermacline was around 15 to 18 ft fish seemed to be mostly around 10 to12 ft. i set all poles at 10 ft. caught quite a few small crappie only 2 keepers. caught them all on strait tail , and i,d say90% on a electric chicken just seemed to like that color. maybe minnows would of caught more bigger ones. who knows water temp was 85, was fishing at bluegrass f&w I don't know if the type of bait matters concerning which size crappie you are going to catch with it. We've caught small crappie on minnows and large crappie on minnows, it doesn't seem to matter. What seems to matter most is the spot, time, and weather conditions (fronts moving thru, barometric pressure changes, lake temperature, etc). That having been said, we've not only caught crappie on minnows, but we've also caught bluegill, perch, catfish, northern pike, and largemouth bass on minnows - all at night - fishing at 6' or deeper in 18' or deeper water. It isn't often that we catch these other fish species at night while crappie fishing using minnows, but we do occasionally catch them. 4 years ago last month, 4 of us were crappie fishing at night and caught a lot of crappie (of which only about 60 or so were keepers). My dad caught a 7+ lb northern pike on a minnow about 10 min after we first dropped anchor, and a couple of hours later I landed a 17.5" crappie on a minnow and then I caught a 12lb, 12oz channel cat on a chub I threw out about 40' from the boat (suspended 6" deep under a bobber to just let "swim around".)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 21:23:51 GMT -5
i been night fishing once this yr , did,nt do to good need to go more. can,t find anybody to go people my age hit there bedtime around 9 .man i wouldnt know what a 17.5 in crappie looked like how much did it weigh
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Post by subzero350 on Aug 18, 2015 0:44:04 GMT -5
i been night fishing once this yr , did,nt do to good need to go more. can,t find anybody to go people my age hit there bedtime around 9 .man i wouldnt know what a 17.5 in crappie looked like how much did it weigh 2 lb, 8 oz. Here's a picture of me holding my crappie next to a good friend of mine holding the catfish I also caught that night:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 21:42:58 GMT -5
nice fish
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Post by subzero350 on Aug 20, 2015 1:28:21 GMT -5
Thanks, it was truly a memorable evening.
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Post by moose1am on Aug 21, 2015 9:11:39 GMT -5
If you use minnows in the hot summer months you can keep them alive longer if you treat the water to get the water's pH to around 7.0. Also a liter or half liter sized plastic bottle filled 3/4 of the way up with tap water and put in the freezer ahead of time can be used to keep in the minnow bucket to keep the water cold. I get my minnow water down to about 60 deg F in the summer time. And change the water every 24 hours.
Aerate the water either with a battery operated pump or a plug in type electric pump. Don't add too much air to the minnow bucket or you will heat the water up too much and defeat the frozen water bottle trick.
Remove any dead minnows ASAP.
Try to use the same water source as not all water is the same. Things dissolved in the water vary from water source to water source. Water with a high conductivity or a low or high pH is not good for the fish. Which is why I use a water treatment powder in my water to correct for low or high pH values.
BTW: I have city water that has a high pH value of over 8.5 so I treat my water in a big 6 gallon water container with Ph 7.0 buffer powder that I purchased at the pet store.
Its' a lot of work keeping minnows alive in the hot summer months. I've not been fishing for the last two years. I may be retired from fishing maybe. I went once this year and fished with jigs.
I used multi tail tube jigs and had good luck with them if I added a crappie nibble to the hook. I have used the small safety pin type spinner baits to cast for crappie with great success. And I troll with bandit crank baits down to 18 to 20 ft in the hot summer months and catch a lot of good sized suspended crappie in the hot summer months. I was fishing in the middle of the day when it was so hot everyone else had gone home. But the lake I fish these days is so crowded that it's not really fun trying to troll crankbaits around all the other boats.
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