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Post by greghopper on Jul 30, 2015 16:01:02 GMT -5
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Post by featherduster on Jul 30, 2015 16:04:49 GMT -5
As soon as I see the term SELF-POLICING I know this will never work or be trusted.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 30, 2015 17:56:45 GMT -5
As soon as I see the term SELF-POLICING I know this will never work or be trusted. Big dollar signs blind folks doesn't it? |
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Post by nfalls116 on Jul 30, 2015 20:11:02 GMT -5
This seems a bit like the police department conducting an internal investigation
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Post by firstwd on Jul 30, 2015 21:51:23 GMT -5
Funny, the Indiana Deer advisory Council is the same name of the "group" the guys from the IDHMFP said they were working on putting together to help "advise" the DNR.
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Post by greghopper on Jul 30, 2015 22:05:18 GMT -5
Funny, the Indiana Deer advisory Council is the same name of the "group" the guys from the IDHMFP said they were working on putting together to help "advise" the DNR. Birds of feather fly together !! |
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Post by chubwub on Aug 4, 2015 12:19:27 GMT -5
I don't believe in exclusively self-policing but I will say that it works pretty good for animal research. We have a voluntary inspection in addition to the USDA inspection called AAALAC that is basically compromised of fellow peers who give accreditation if we meet AAALAC standards, which are even more rigorous then those of the USDA. So many facilities pride themselves on being AAALAC certified even though it is not required, and most researchers will not even conduct research someplace unless it is AAALAC accredited nowadays. In addition to USDA/DNR/whatever 3rd neutral party they have for game farm inspections, I think something similar in place for deer farms would actually be a very positive thing. www.aaalac.org/accreditation/positionstatements.cfm |
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Post by hunterman on Aug 4, 2015 16:00:56 GMT -5
The hunting preserves have self policed for the past ten years without a single issue. Now with all the new preserves opening up there has to be some guidance for them to assure no bad actors enter the industry. As we have all seen recently it just takes one person to do something to bring hunting into the limelight and not in a good way.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 9, 2015 14:10:33 GMT -5
If planned parenthood sells baby parts, and probably have for years, I think with enough money and influence people can get away with just about anything for a time.
I'm certain that it's my lack of hunting experience and the lack of hunting influence in my youth that blinds me to the problems with pinned deer. I can't help but think there is a biased based on how traditional hunters feel it has to be done to be a real hunting.
Is there any chance that there's just a generational stigma attached to it? Antidepressants and online dating also had these stigmas, but have opened new life improving situations for many.
Even crossbows, and I don't have to explain this. Many have changed their opinion. Do they now feel less of a hunter???
On FB, I see 2 year old bucks that look like a blue-blood (not blue tongue) 5 year olds in the wild. No one will think of it as hunting, but so what. I will feel like I am sitting over planted deer bait, but I don't think I'll have a problem with it. I don't care if one thinks I'm a not a hunter. I don't mind being called a killer instead of a hunter. I have fun and it's all challenging to me. It is a huge challenge for me to sit in the woods for weeks on end without seeing anything.
I don't like to be too closed minded with some things, but of course you all know that I am with enough issues. I just have enough hind-sight and foresight to see that I have and probably will have more "crow eating opportunities" since I seem to have acquired a taste for it.
Open range hunting will always hold respect just like a long bow kill.
Some people have more money than time. Should these people be denied the experience of harvesting their dream buck? Don't these hunting personalities get set up on the best properties?
What I'm concerned about is how politicians will spin things to influence their bigger agenda. How much of these hunting issues is spin derived from embedded agendas to keep the sport limited or from an engrained stigma?
One would think that a business man would see his deer as dollar signs and desire the best of care for them.
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