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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 5, 2016 8:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 5, 2016 8:54:02 GMT -5
I've always been amazed at how low Nebraska totals always are. I mean Maryland is 2/3 as much as them, just crazy, but proves habitat plays huge part in holding capacity.
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Post by jjas on Feb 5, 2016 9:46:31 GMT -5
Of course it didn't....No state wants to decimate their deer herd, but it boggles my mind that people can't seem to grasp the concept of herd reduction.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 10:05:39 GMT -5
So true, I let 7 does walk by last night. They were 55 yards out and didn't want to take a chance of a bed shot. In Ohio, I hunt anywhere from 2-5 acres and 1/2 don't let me hunt on their property, so I have to make sure the deer drops in less than 50-70 yards. I usually make sure the shot is under 30 yards and placement perfect. Ohio season ends this Sunday.
I just filled out my Ohio survey and this retrieval issue is #1 for me. I respect Indiana's regulation about the right to retrieval.
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Post by swilk on Feb 5, 2016 10:08:56 GMT -5
Neat trick to know how far a deer will run before taking the shot .....
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Post by greghopper on Feb 5, 2016 10:15:57 GMT -5
So true, I let 7 does walk by last night. They were 55 yards out and didn't want to take a chance of a bed shot. In Ohio, I hunt anywhere from 2-5 acres and 1/2 don't let me hunt on their property, so I have to make sure the deer drops in less than 50-70 yards. I usually make sure the shot is under 30 yards and placement perfect. Ohio season ends this Sunday. I just filled out my Ohio survey and this retrieval issue is #1 for me. I respect Indiana's regulation about the right to retrieval. INDIANA has NO regulation that gives anyone to retrieve any game with out land owner aproval !! |
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 5, 2016 10:26:41 GMT -5
So true, I let 7 does walk by last night. They were 55 yards out and didn't want to take a chance of a bed shot. In Ohio, I hunt anywhere from 2-5 acres and 1/2 don't let me hunt on their property, so I have to make sure the deer drops in less than 50-70 yards. I usually make sure the shot is under 30 yards and placement perfect. Ohio season ends this Sunday. I just filled out my Ohio survey and this retrieval issue is #1 for me. I respect Indiana's regulation about the right to retrieval. INDIANA has NO regulation that gives anyone to retrieve any game with out land owner aproval !! That is my understanding as well. Which is why all the small acre properties I hunt I make darn sure to type a letter to neighbors explaining who I am, and that I will NEVER come on to there property even for retrieval without seeking approval from them. Even with the DNR knocking on their door, technically they still don't have to let you retrieve. |
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 5, 2016 10:42:29 GMT -5
Furthermore, I've always been a fan of protecting land owner rights, but I also believe in a hunter's right to pursue a downed animal. I think a law that states if a landowner desires they have to be present and a DNR/Police Officer be present so be it.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 5, 2016 10:52:31 GMT -5
Furthermore, I've always been a fan of protecting land owner rights, but I also believe in a hunter's right to pursue a downed animal. I think a law that states if a landowner desires they have to be present and a DNR/Police Officer be present so be it. And very undoubtably proof of where game was shot .... "First Blood" |
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 5, 2016 10:55:29 GMT -5
Furthermore, I've always been a fan of protecting land owner rights, but I also believe in a hunter's right to pursue a downed animal. I think a law that states if a landowner desires they have to be present and a DNR/Police Officer be present so be it. And very undoubtably proof of where game was shot .... "First Blood" True I believe some states have the law that if a CO or DNR officer can confirm to the best of their ability that the animal was shot outside but crossed onto the property landowners must give consent, but can demand to be present. Some of the states that have the "you can go retrieve" with no regulations on it I think are flat out wrong and impeded on the rights of private property ownership. |
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Post by sakorifle on Feb 5, 2016 11:11:32 GMT -5
And very undoubtably proof of where game was shot .... "First Blood" True I believe some states have the law that if a CO or DNR officer can confirm to the best of their ability that the animal was shot outside but crossed onto the property landowners must give consent, but can demand to be present. Some of the states that have the "you can go retrieve" with no regulations on it I think are flat out wrong and impeded on the rights of private property ownership. GREETINGS sorry but in a friendly way i flat out disagree with you Animal welfare comes FIRST before anyones privacy or awkward rights, we owe it to the animals we hunt. You hurt it you sort it. In England you puruse wounded game and if need be you offer it to the landowner no one in history has ever been prosecuted for humane dispatch of a wounded animal And that in my mind is the right order of things. regards Billy. |
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 5, 2016 11:41:47 GMT -5
sakor, I believe YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT, however I do understand and respect landowner desire to be present or a CO to be present. I don't want just anyone at any point to be able to access private property claiming "pursuit of a wounded or downed animal" that is all I'm saying.
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Post by steiny on Feb 5, 2016 13:31:58 GMT -5
Regarding the retrieving downed animal thing. As a landowner who has a pretty nice whitetail property, I've experienced for quite a few years, people "border sitting", hunting right up against my edges because the land they have permission on has crap habitat. They know full well that if they shoot a deer near my border, there is a strong chance it will run into my place and expire.
Have had one guy call me to retrieve about 3-4 different times and each time it was a wild goose chase due to poor shooting, an unrecovered deer, and we stomped all over and mucked up my property. In a couple cases, I found the bones or carcasses later. I lectured him about working on his shooting skills and backing off the property lines so they would die on his side, but that has fallen on deaf ears. If he calls again, it's going to be a pretty black and white NO, stay the heck out.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Feb 5, 2016 13:41:03 GMT -5
Neat trick to know how far a deer will run before taking the shot ..... LOL, holster that gun young whippersnapper. |
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Post by swilk on Feb 5, 2016 13:58:21 GMT -5
No way in heck should a persons sport trump another persons property rights. Ever.
I would hope that hunters and landowners could find some common ground in the event an animal crosses property boundaries but if a landowner says no then it should be respected.
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 5, 2016 14:09:39 GMT -5
No way in heck should a persons sport trump another persons property rights. Ever. I would hope that hunters and landowners could find some common ground in the event an animal crosses property boundaries but if a landowner says no then it should be respected. I did hear of a case recently in southern Indiana where a CO officer was called and the owner of the land told the CO he could accompany the recovery but not the hunter. I guess the two hunters had very "opposing" views on ethics and many an issue had occurred and the landowner did not desire the man EVER to step foot on his property but he'd informed the man should a deer ever cross to simply have the CO get involved and it would be sorted out. Odd to say the least but the CO and landowner went and retrieved it and took it to the man. Weird, but I think that is awesome, landowner rights of privacy were not infringed yet he respected the animal despite not respecting the hunter. |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Feb 5, 2016 16:11:18 GMT -5
I learned a valuable lesson this year in the event that I ever own land. I stepped on this man's property only to ask for permission to retrieve. He appreciated that I asked him first and helped me. Even though the deer wasn't found that evening, I was not permitted to come back the next day. He had his reasons and I respected his choice.
What I learned was that no matter the loss or sacrifice on my part as a land owner, I will allow and help a hunter do whatever is necessary to retrieve the deer.
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Post by duff on Feb 5, 2016 17:35:28 GMT -5
The only time I have had issue retrieving game was on another deer hunters property.
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Post by medic22 on Feb 5, 2016 18:01:50 GMT -5
The only time I have had issue retrieving game was on another deer hunters property. For me, its been when someone else takes them. Im not still bitter or anything. |
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 5, 2016 20:11:54 GMT -5
Neat trick to know how far a deer will run before taking the shot ..... first deer I shot ran 20yds next one 500miles (ok it was more like 1/4 mile) since that day I almost lost that deer I reduced the risk involved with my shots and every one since then has hit the dirt instantly |
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