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Post by span870 on Feb 5, 2016 14:46:48 GMT -5
No what I'm saying is don't even bother wasting the money to lease land for public use (don't even bother with lease deals in the first place), just stick with purchasing outright. I think it's stupid that we leased land on Minehaha for so long, put tax dollars into it, stocked the lakes with fish and then have it all taken away after the lease is up. I'd rather see the funds for habitat improvement be used on land that is actually owned by the state. Of the opportunities had at Minnehaha over the years, I don't consider $100 a year wasted. It is a shame that they have decided not to allow further leasing to the State, but they are having financial difficulties similar to other coal mines and are looking to raise capital. Maybe the State could swing a purchase of what they were leasing. Here's my problem with it though. The state will buy up land adjoining state parks for way above going price and the feds will do the same adjoining national forest. Now the feds for the most part allow open use but there is quite a bit of land bought up by the state that doesn't allow all access. Ie hunting and dog running. If tax money is used to buy this land it needs to be open for all uses. My point is reckon is use the money to buy land like this that ALL can use for all activities and stop buying land that has large restrictions. Interlake is a prime example. I can hunt, fish, run dogs, ride atvs, off road jeeps, bird watch. This is where the money should go. Deer Creek ,I believe the name is, is a prime example. Limited access, limited day use. What was the point. I realize how the acquisition came about but it is wasted use.
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Post by GS1 on Feb 5, 2016 14:48:23 GMT -5
I would cut a week off of firearms and muzzleloader season and make muzzleloader what is currently the last week of season.
Do away with or severely reduce the number of antlerless tags. IMO, it's nothing more than a front by the DNR to make it look like they are slaughtering the herd when the vast majority of hunters don't kill close to the limit in any given County if you combined all the antlerless they shot in multiple counties. It's not the guy with 100 acres killing 6 does that is the problem. It's the 10 guys with 10 acres each that are killing 2 a piece.
Make the bundle license the only license available. Revert it back to being only good for 2 does and a buck.
Have to add more later.
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Post by BOWn Hunter on Feb 5, 2016 14:49:20 GMT -5
Allow spot lighting with a weapon, i dont spotlight because its rare that i dont have a gun. I almost always have my EDC at a minimum So you're saying you think spot lighting SHOULD be allowed? That's unfair chase of a game animal. 1) When spotlighted, they are virtually blind, so there is no challenge to hunting. 2) it's EXTREMELY dangerous to being shooting in the dark. 3) It is ethically and morally wrong to hunt this way. The deer would stand no chance to any half-a** shooter due to not being able to see. I don't see how any poachers get any joy out of shooting a deer (no matter how big or small) in the dark with a light in its eyes. that is called poaching for a reason. Saddle up like the rest of the millions of hunters and do it right.
Now I'm not saying you currently do this (and pray to God you don't) and I'm really hoping there was a typo, it was sarcasm, or I misunderstood you, but I can guarantee you won't find a single person on here that would approve of poaching.
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Post by featherduster on Feb 5, 2016 14:54:04 GMT -5
Three shell limit on all weapons used for hunting in Indiana for the exception of 22 rifles for squirrel season.
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Post by GS1 on Feb 5, 2016 14:55:12 GMT -5
Allow spot lighting with a weapon, i dont spotlight because its rare that i dont have a gun. I almost always have my EDC at a minimum So you're saying you think spot lighting SHOULD be allowed? That's unfair chase of a game animal. 1) When spotlighted, they are virtually blind, so there is no challenge to hunting. 2) it's EXTREMELY dangerous to being shooting in the dark. 3) It is ethically and morally wrong to hunt this way. The deer would stand no chance to any half-a** shooter due to not being able to see. I don't see how any poachers get any joy out of shooting a deer (no matter how big or small) in the dark with a light in its eyes. that is called poaching for a reason. Saddle up like the rest of the millions of hunters and do it right.
Now I'm not saying you currently do this (and pray to God you don't) and I'm really hoping there was a typo, it was sarcasm, or I misunderstood you, but I can guarantee you won't find a single person on here that would approve of poaching.
Spotlighting is currently legal. I think you misunderstand what he is saying
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Post by GS1 on Feb 5, 2016 14:56:35 GMT -5
(1) Delete all IN deer hunting regulations (2) Highlight all of KY's deer hunting regulations, right click, select copy (3) Go back to IN's blank deer hunting regulations, right click, select paste. I was thinking the same thing, but don't like the unlimited antlerless zone. Just something for people to pick at.
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 5, 2016 14:59:17 GMT -5
What rules... I would eliminate all rules regarding warning labels. I feel The rest would sort itself out
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Post by BOWn Hunter on Feb 5, 2016 15:10:23 GMT -5
So you're saying you think spot lighting SHOULD be allowed? That's unfair chase of a game animal. 1) When spotlighted, they are virtually blind, so there is no challenge to hunting. 2) it's EXTREMELY dangerous to being shooting in the dark. 3) It is ethically and morally wrong to hunt this way. The deer would stand no chance to any half-a** shooter due to not being able to see. I don't see how any poachers get any joy out of shooting a deer (no matter how big or small) in the dark with a light in its eyes. that is called poaching for a reason. Saddle up like the rest of the millions of hunters and do it right.
Now I'm not saying you currently do this (and pray to God you don't) and I'm really hoping there was a typo, it was sarcasm, or I misunderstood you, but I can guarantee you won't find a single person on here that would approve of poaching.
Spotlighting is currently legal. I think you misunderstand what he is saying You are correct, I apologize for jumping the gun medic22. I for some reason read spotlighting as hunting with a spotlight. I spotlight regularly so I can't say anything on that BUT my stance on poaching still holds true
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Post by medic22 on Feb 5, 2016 15:19:28 GMT -5
Spotlighting is currently legal. I think you misunderstand what he is saying You are correct, I apologize for jumping the gun medic22. I for some reason read spotlighting as hunting with a spotlight. I spotlight regularly so I can't say anything on that BUT my stance on poaching still holds true No worries, I just want to spotlight without having to worry about getting a ticket, or worse. Ideally, i would spotlight as im leaving my hunting area, but I would either have a bow or a gun with me, so it would be illegal. Any other time im usually carrying a gun, so i still can't.
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Post by omegahunter on Feb 5, 2016 15:22:59 GMT -5
Allow spot lighting with a weapon, i dont spotlight because its rare that i dont have a gun. I almost always have my EDC at a minimum So you're saying you think spot lighting SHOULD be allowed? That's unfair chase of a game animal. 1) When spotlighted, they are virtually blind, so there is no challenge to hunting. 2) it's EXTREMELY dangerous to being shooting in the dark. 3) It is ethically and morally wrong to hunt this way. The deer would stand no chance to any half-a** shooter due to not being able to see. I don't see how any poachers get any joy out of shooting a deer (no matter how big or small) in the dark with a light in its eyes. that is called poaching for a reason. Saddle up like the rest of the millions of hunters and do it right.
Now I'm not saying you currently do this (and pray to God you don't) and I'm really hoping there was a typo, it was sarcasm, or I misunderstood you, but I can guarantee you won't find a single person on here that would approve of poaching.
Reread his post. He is asking that it be allowed to use a spotlight while in possession of his personal carry weapon. Not that deer hunting with a spotlight after hours be allowed. I could get behind that proposal.
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Post by omegahunter on Feb 5, 2016 15:25:10 GMT -5
Three shell limit on all weapons used for hunting in Indiana for the exception of 22 rifles for squirrel season. That makes practically any bolt or pump gun of any caliber or gauge illegal. No more hunting groundhogs or coyotes with your .22-250 Remington 700 because it will hold 4 rounds in the mag!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 15:31:29 GMT -5
Combine the muzzleloader and gun seasons. Having a separate season is so old school. Not much difference these does with modern muzzleloaders and a shot gun. Maybe separate the rifle and gun/muzzleloader into two and or three season.
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 5, 2016 15:43:27 GMT -5
In all seriousness, I would simply make it a hunter's right to retrieve a downed animal proven to a CO to have entered private property you do not have permission to be on. With the owner being made aware of course and encouraged to join if desired. How would someone know the game was down before the retrieve if the game wasn't seen going down? You wouldn't !!! And how long would be fair to track a wounded game on some else's land?? Days? Hours?? Basically it would be right to trail, but I just don't think someone should be able to willy nilly go on someone's property.
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 5, 2016 15:46:55 GMT -5
Three shell limit on all weapons used for hunting in Indiana for the exception of 22 rifles for squirrel season. That makes practically any bolt or pump gun of any caliber or gauge illegal. No more hunting groundhogs or coyotes with your .22-250 Remington 700 because it will hold 4 rounds in the mag! No, it would be exact same game as the waterfowl guys have been following for years. But perhaps those fellers are smarter than us four legged hunters.
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Post by chubwub on Feb 5, 2016 15:50:41 GMT -5
I thought he was talking about the ridiculousness of the spotlighting rule as it stands now where you could conceivably be busted for spotlighting by using a flashlight while walking in the woods at night with personal protection, being busted for it while coyote hunting and accidentally shine on a deer or having a deer jump in front of the headlights of your vehicle and you just happened to have a weapon in the back.
The way the rule is written you can basically go to jail for having a flashlight and a weapon in your truck at the same time, using a headlamp to navigate your way back home from a stand at night, or using a light of any sort to travel through the dark to get into your hunting spot.
This rule needs a serious rework, it is poorly written and basically makes all of us criminals. I don't care if officer discretion is a part of this, it is open to abuse by crooked LEOs.
"It is illegal to shine a spotlight, searchlight or other artificial light for the purpose of taking, attempting to take or assisting another person to take a deer, or to shine such a light while in possession of a firearm, bow or crossbow.
It also is illegal for a person to deliberately cast a spotlight or other artificial light from a motor vehicle if in possession of a firearm, bow or crossbow."
The second part of that law needs to be deleted.
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Post by throbak on Feb 5, 2016 16:07:40 GMT -5
Just make spot lighting completely illegal July through February problem solved .. Outlaw any commercial fishing for native fish I.E. Catfish ,,spoonbill ,,pallid sturgeon, let em have all the Asian Carp they want to protect their Heritage
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 5, 2016 17:13:13 GMT -5
Baiting.....
Either legalize it completely or say no baiting/feeding of deer at all..
WAY too big of a gray area..
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Post by GS1 on Feb 5, 2016 17:15:41 GMT -5
I thought he was talking about the ridiculousness of the spotlighting rule as it stands now where you could conceivably be busted for spotlighting by using a flashlight while walking in the woods at night with personal protection, being busted for it while coyote hunting and accidentally shine on a deer or having a deer jump in front of the headlights of your vehicle and you just happened to have a weapon in the back. The way the rule is written you can basically go to jail for having a flashlight and a weapon in your truck at the same time, using a headlamp to navigate your way back home from a stand at night, or using a light of any sort to travel through the dark to get into your hunting spot. This rule needs a serious rework, it is poorly written and basically makes all of us criminals. I don't care if officer discretion is a part of this, it is open to abuse by crooked LEOs. "It is illegal to shine a spotlight, searchlight or other artificial light for the purpose of taking, attempting to take or assisting another person to take a deer, or to shine such a light while in possession of a firearm, bow or crossbow. It also is illegal for a person to deliberately cast a spotlight or other artificial light from a motor vehicle if in possession of a firearm, bow or crossbow." The second part of that law needs to be deleted. There's too many "no you can't" in there to even start.
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Post by jimstc on Feb 5, 2016 17:39:16 GMT -5
That makes practically any bolt or pump gun of any caliber or gauge illegal. No more hunting groundhogs or coyotes with your .22-250 Remington 700 because it will hold 4 rounds in the mag! No, it would be exact same game as the waterfowl guys have been following for years. But perhaps those fellers are smarter than us four legged hunters. TY, That makes no sense. I would have to plug my 870, SX2 and 1187. For what purpose? Your archery bias is understood, but that comment is misplaced. Whether I have 3 or 10 rounds is irrelevant. Marksmanship is the key. Not legislating my tube capacity. Kinda like trying to legislate morality. Never has worked...
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 5, 2016 17:48:54 GMT -5
"It also is illegal for a person to deliberately cast a spotlight or other artificial light from a motor vehicle if in possession of a firearm, bow or crossbow." The second part of that law needs to be deleted. Yep. As written, merely shining a flashlight down at the ground from a truck while your firearm is cased in the bed would be enough to get you charged.
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