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Post by chubwub on Feb 5, 2016 21:43:18 GMT -5
I would also make it so there is not a 25 shell limit at goose pond during the conservation season. Talk about a stupid rule....
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 5, 2016 21:45:42 GMT -5
The second amendment to say "a person can keep and bear all arms including but not limited to assault rifles, revolvers, semi automatic handguns muzzleloaders, shotguns, rifles, modern sporting firearms and any other unforseen conceptual or actual firearm from here on out. Furthermore the government may not implement laws governing the use or possession of firearms. Nor shall a government prosecute anyone to a life sentence unless they are to be hanged or stoned to death by the jury of their peers that hands down the sentence.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 5, 2016 22:03:40 GMT -5
I guess I'm just curious as to why so many people think a 3deer limit is such a good idea?
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Post by greghopper on Feb 5, 2016 22:19:23 GMT -5
I guess I'm just curious as to why so many people think a 3deer limit is such a good idea? That's the limit with a bundle lic......only thing o can think of!
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Post by span870 on Feb 5, 2016 22:24:00 GMT -5
Since there are several suggestions for changing the firearms seasons I'll add mine. Open a deer season from October 1 straight through the first Sunday in January for all legal equipment. Then every hunter would have all the time they could ever want to pick out their perfect antlered animal, schedule around life events, and choose whatever weapon they wish. I would like to see the annual turkey limit be 2 birds. One license good the entire year, two birds total for the year, bearded only in the spring, either sex in the fall, fall weapon choices same as spring. I'll amend my turkey to coincide with yours. I'm fine two any way. Would like to see the fall season extended for firearms longer. See we can work things out.
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Post by hornzilla on Feb 5, 2016 22:53:56 GMT -5
I guess I'm just curious as to why so many people think a 3deer limit is such a good idea? Why would anyone need more than 3?
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Post by firstwd on Feb 5, 2016 23:16:24 GMT -5
I guess I'm just curious as to why so many people think a 3deer limit is such a good idea? Why would anyone need more than 3? I have 4 elderly farmers that I help take care of their property and take a deer off of their property to put in their freezer. These land owners are either too busy during the deer season with farming or can no longer physically get out to hunt. If the limit is 3, how do I choose which 2 farmers don't get a deer?
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Post by GS1 on Feb 5, 2016 23:27:05 GMT -5
I said 3 because I assume there is a reason the DNR made the bundle 3 tags.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 5, 2016 23:52:49 GMT -5
I said 3 because I assume there is a reason the DNR made the bundle 3 tags. In my opinion, to make money. Most hunters don't try for more than 2. The pricing is a little cheaper then buying the 3 separate, but not much more than buying 2 separate. If a hunter has the tag in hand they are more likely to use it and help with the reduction plan.
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Post by featherduster on Feb 6, 2016 7:41:11 GMT -5
OK let me change my first idea about the 3 shell limit, make that law for all game animals only. predators are exempt.
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Post by hunterman on Feb 6, 2016 10:24:03 GMT -5
Gun season starts last Saturday in November and runs for 2 weeks. I know that's greedy but for me I would like that bease im a trophy hunter. Indiana would soon become #1 big buck state.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 6, 2016 10:44:24 GMT -5
Gun season starts last Saturday in November and runs for 2 weeks. I know that's greedy but for me I would like that bease im a trophy hunter. Indiana would soon become #1 big buck state. And that designation is exactly the last thing the average deer hunter wants.
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 6, 2016 11:46:19 GMT -5
Indiana would soon become #1 big buck state. I don't want to see that happen, as all it will do is lead to even more leasing. I'd prefer us to remain a "sleeper" state. Why try to legislate big bucks when you can grow them yourself regardless of what the rest of the state is doing? You can move the firearms season back on your own property at will, or even eliminate it completely if you want. You can prohibit even one doe from being killed, or install minimum antler scores. No need to force the rest of the state to go along with your management plan. What challenge would it be if there were a Booner behind every tree? Everyone would have one. Lol!
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 6, 2016 12:14:30 GMT -5
Indiana would soon become #1 big buck state. I don't want to see that happen, as all it will do is lead to even more leasing. I'd prefer us to remain a "sleeper" state. Why try to legislate big bucks when you can grow them yourself regardless of what the rest of the state is doing? You can move the firearms season back on your own property at will, or even eliminate it completely if you want. You can prohibit even one doe from being killed, or install minimum antler scores. No need to force the rest of the state to go along with your management plan. What challenge would it be if there were a Booner behind every tree? Everyone would have one. Lol! HERE HERE!!! Well said.....
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Feb 6, 2016 12:28:11 GMT -5
I'm not very good at deer hunting; I still find it a challenge to shoot a doe. The does usually have lookouts with them. If one doesn't bust me, another one will.
The bucks seem to be so distracted or focused on a mission, busting me seems to be a second thought.
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Post by Russ Koon on Feb 6, 2016 14:38:38 GMT -5
My #1 pick would be to allow baiting. Even my relatives who have their own ground and put in food plots each year think it would be a better idea than trying to regulate against it with laws that are difficult to enforce, very easy to misuse to entrap the innocent, and otherwise are almost totally ineffective. The current situation seems to be tailor-made to benefit the outlaws who use bait regardless of the law, or who toss some bait over the fence and call in the guy legally hunting the neighbor's property, to eliminate the competition. I'm sure that the vast majority of CO's use good common sense and would like to be able to police the woods effectively, but the logistics and the numbers are just not there for their efforts to be effective to any degree.
Besides, the current situation regarding sizes of huntable properties and proximity of nearby "safe zones" have changed the dynamics of hunting for a great number of us. Most of us now have access to smaller plots and could use the bait to draw animals from across the fence on a sanctuary zone during daylight. Baiting makes much more sense now than when we had larger farms and properties available, and fewer hunters traipsing around on the available spots. Anything that reduces the need for the hunter to wander through the next guy's setup would increase the safety and the enjoyment of the experience, and most likely the effectiveness of it as well.
I would think that hunter-farmer relations might also be improved by any significant number of hunters buying their corn or alfalfa pellets at the local feed mills or farm stores.
I'd also think that there might be some choice between leasing acreage, which is pretty pricey for most, and hoping to find land available on a handshake as we once did. Maybe trespass fees for hunting similar to the ones in common use out west would be a more reasonable answer to the scarce access for so many, without the high cost of leasing. Not sure whether that would be legal to do right now here in IN or not. Haven't heard of anyone offering it or using it.
And I'd like to see the need for the blaze orange on ground blinds rescinded. I think that was a solution in search of a problem, and one that created a greater problem than it was trying to solve. Now our ground blinds are either much more visible to those who shop for them in the woods, unless we take the orange stuff with us when we leave, which then makes it much more noticeable to the game when we replace it for the hunt.
At the very least, the regulations could be changed with a simple paragraph that would allow the hunter to remove his required blaze orange clothing while inside the blind if the blind has the required blaze orange on the outside! Right now, we're required to have it on the blind, and also must be wearing while inside to be legal, so we can't even get the full benefit of the concealment by wearing black outer garments to conceal our movements inside.
Sometimes you do have to wonder whether the folks who write the regulations have ever hunted.
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Post by M4Madness on Feb 6, 2016 14:55:15 GMT -5
Most of us now have access to smaller plots and could use the bait to draw animals from across the fence on a sanctuary zone during daylight. My take on baiting is that the guy with the most bait wins. I certainly don't want a guy on the next property drawing deer away from me. LOL! It is my personal belief that this lack of deer sightings that many are complaining about may be nothing more than the prevalence of food plots today. Deer that they used to see are now drawn to someone else's property. That, and I feel that many hunters are field sitters and need to actually get back into the woods to see deer.
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Post by throbak on Feb 6, 2016 16:11:20 GMT -5
Food plots and Field setters Hit the nail on the head imo
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Post by esshup on Feb 6, 2016 16:54:44 GMT -5
I guess I'm just curious as to why so many people think a 3deer limit is such a good idea? Why would anyone need more than 3? I shot 4 this year, all in different areas and would have liked to get one more to put in the freezer. I gave 3 away.
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Post by chubwub on Feb 6, 2016 18:12:48 GMT -5
I think the guy with the most delicious bait wins.
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