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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Feb 10, 2016 18:24:02 GMT -5
When I lived on a lake, they had an engine size and speed limit. By the time I left and younger people got in charge, there was a speed limit, but V8s were allowed. It didn't matter how much power if the speed limit was enforced.
No matter what is allowed in hunting the herd can always be controlled by limits ...with honest hunters.
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Post by treetop on Feb 10, 2016 18:54:56 GMT -5
Being someone who generally works 7 days a week and has very little chance of scheduling time off the opening week of gun season now, shortening seasons simply restricts the possibility of actually making it out. I know archery only hunters think I'm crazy, but opening the entire season to all weapons would spread the stress out. Look at it like fishing, everybody doesn't crash the lake because they are limited on time. They pick and choose their days based on available time and weather conditions. That makes sence but I would be against it, like I said I do gun hunt but I like the bow season for the quiet time and the deer aren't all hyped up I seem to learn more about them but that's being selfish I understand time off I work a bunch myself. No matter what happens the right week shorter seasons less tags 1 buck or two somebody won't like it so I take what I have and make it work the best I can.
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Post by trapperdave on Feb 10, 2016 21:05:48 GMT -5
Being someone who generally works 7 days a week and has very little chance of scheduling time off the opening week of gun season now, shortening seasons simply restricts the possibility of actually making it out. I know archery only hunters think I'm crazy, but opening the entire season to all weapons would spread the stress out. Look at it like fishing, everybody doesn't crash the lake because they are limited on time. They pick and choose their days based on available time and weather conditions. You ever been on brookville, grist, Monroe on a weekend?
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Post by firstwd on Feb 10, 2016 21:12:15 GMT -5
Being someone who generally works 7 days a week and has very little chance of scheduling time off the opening week of gun season now, shortening seasons simply restricts the possibility of actually making it out. I know archery only hunters think I'm crazy, but opening the entire season to all weapons would spread the stress out. Look at it like fishing, everybody doesn't crash the lake because they are limited on time. They pick and choose their days based on available time and weather conditions. That makes sence but I would be against it, like I said I do gun hunt but I like the bow season for the quiet time and the deer aren't all hyped up I seem to learn more about them but that's being selfish I understand time off I work a bunch myself. No matter what happens the right week shorter seasons less tags 1 buck or two somebody won't like it so I take what I have and make it work the best I can. The other down side to shortening gun season would be the sheer number people who only hunt gun season, not archery or muzzle loader. I have heard the argument that a large percentage of that group only hunt opening weekend. That still doesn't make things fair for the remainder. My ex father in law has deer hunted his entire life. Since I met him, he has never hunted opening weekend. He would work that weekend and schedule his vacation for the week days of season. He was mostly a still hunter and wanted as few people in the woods as possible so he could hunt them way he enjoyed. With a couple of 3 or 4 day seasons he wouldn't be able to hunt his preferred method. I understand the idea of decreasing the stress level on the herd, but they've been surviving it for decades. Look at how fast everybody started seeing deer after season ended this year and it seemed like everybody wasn't seeing deer this year.
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Post by drs on Feb 11, 2016 6:08:26 GMT -5
Now I'm stealing this idea from another hunting forum but I found it very interesting as to what others found to need changed! So below, list everything that if you had open availability to change whatever hunting rule(s)/regulation(s), what would you change? Since I no longer reside in Indiana, but rather in Kentucky, it too could uses some changes:
1. I would like to see a rule change that would place the open day of Deer (Archery) season open in First Saturday in October instead of September which is too early. 2. Make the Rifle season length equal a full 16 days state-wide. At the present Zones 1 & 2 have 16 days to hunt Deer during Rifle season. While Zones 3 & 4 have only 10 Days. 3. Eliminate "Bonus" Deer tags making a 2-Deer limit only/year. In Zones (like #1) that actually have a Deer overpopulation, then a lottery draw for extra tags would be okay to control the Herd size. 4. More aggressive crackdown on: Trespassers, game violators, and Poachers with stiff fines and jail time. 5. Eliminate "Spring" Squirrel Season.
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Post by welder on Feb 11, 2016 16:46:09 GMT -5
Make it possible for people to hunt all deer draw hunts WITHOUT having to have a partner.
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Post by GS1 on Feb 11, 2016 18:16:11 GMT -5
Make it possible for people to hunt all deer draw hunts WITHOUT having to have a partner. Also make a person ineligible the following year for hunts that they are drawn for and do not show up if there is not a stand-by opportunity available.
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Post by firstwd on Feb 11, 2016 19:58:36 GMT -5
Make it possible for people to hunt all deer draw hunts WITHOUT having to have a partner. Also make a person ineligible the following year for hunts that they are drawn for and do not show up if there is not a stand-by opportunity available. I'd rather see an application fee instead of making people ineligible the next year.
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Post by welder on Feb 11, 2016 20:10:21 GMT -5
Also make a person ineligible the following year for hunts that they are drawn for and do not show up if there is not a stand-by opportunity available. I'd rather see an application fee instead of making people ineligible the next year. Why is it mandatory at big oaks to have a partner? I have hunted it and ALL of the other military/refuge hunts and I don't see the need for a partner. I enjoy hunting with others,but I'm usually on my own and Big Oaks is a no-go for that reason.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Feb 11, 2016 20:31:18 GMT -5
I'd rather see an application fee instead of making people ineligible the next year. Why is it mandatory at big oaks to have a partner? I have hunted it and ALL of the other military/refuge hunts and I don't see the need for a partner. I enjoy hunting with others,but I'm usually on my own and Big Oaks is a no-go for that reason. I enjoy hunting by myself, but really I am even at Big Oaks. It would be very easy to get a replacement hunter, and they do allow it.
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Post by throbak on Feb 11, 2016 21:15:17 GMT -5
Mandatory for safety reasons Because it is such a big place ; Your partner should have a good Idea if something's wrong , where the best place to start for help
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Feb 11, 2016 21:26:18 GMT -5
It's fun to text your partner if you see something too.
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Post by hubcap72 on Feb 14, 2016 23:06:42 GMT -5
Tree stand set back requirements!
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Post by drs on Feb 15, 2016 5:46:57 GMT -5
Make it possible for people to hunt all deer draw hunts WITHOUT having to have a partner. I had the same problem of not having a partner, one year back in the late 1970's, when applying for a Deer Hunt at Crane. Having no one as a hunting partner prevented me from participating in the draw. I've hunted Deer in the L.B.L. down here in Kentucky, without any partners as it wasn't a requirement.
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Post by 76chevy on Feb 15, 2016 7:30:49 GMT -5
In 1987 Peabody said it "was getting rid of a headache for them" with the signing of the agreement Tax incentives and no liability for trespassing any more. They got a good deal out it too. The state was very fortunate that Peabody allowed use of the Minnehaha property for as long as they did, people should be thankful, not bent out of shape about this. If I were going to change any laws it would be the firearms season structure / duration. Do something like Illinois; a 3 day season late rut, a 4 day season early December, then a 3 day muzzy season in mid December. No other firearms hunting.
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Post by throbak on Feb 15, 2016 7:54:20 GMT -5
The one Thing I wouldn't change is the season length If set up with just a couple days here and there People Would Hunt Because they had to ! There would be no other choice ! Now you hunt because you want to not because you only have a couple of days Having to do something because that is your only chance would ruin it for me I I hunt when it's cold enough to keep a deer , it's not Raining Its not 75 or -10 there are not conflicting time lines
All that would change with a short season I wouldn't welcome that change If worried about over harvest adjust limits not a season length
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Post by esshup on Feb 15, 2016 10:03:31 GMT -5
The one Thing I wouldn't change is the season length If set up with just a couple days here and there People Would Hunt Because they had to ! There would be no other choice ! Now you hunt because you want to not because you only have a couple of days Having to do something because that is your only chance would ruin it for me I I hunt when it's cold enough to keep a deer , it's not Raining Its not 75 or -10 there are not conflicting time lines All that would change with a short season I wouldn't welcome that change If worried about over harvest adjust limits not a season length I agree 110%.
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Post by chubwub on Feb 16, 2016 11:51:38 GMT -5
I kind of agree that shortening the firearm seasons will just make the shenanigans and bullcrap that goes on during this time much, much worse. Every single day will be just like opening day and then you can look forward to more people doing stupid things out of desperation to get a deer because the time limit is so short.
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 16, 2016 12:02:47 GMT -5
I kind of agree that shortening the firearm seasons will just make the shenanigans and bullcrap that goes on during this time much, much worse. Every single day will be just like opening day and then you can look forward to more people doing stupid things out of desperation to get a deer because the time limit is so short. I am not so sure. I think if they lessoned the regular firearm season, your statement is probably very accurate in some cases. However, if one were to shorten or change any season I honestly think it is the Muzzleloader season. This season was not originally designed for the muzzleloaders hitting the woods today. Many hunters (myself included despite not gun hunting hardly ever) choose to carry a muzzleloader over anything else. Ballistically they are awesome, accuracy is great if kept clean and that is without entering in the smokeless powder ones. It wouldn't make a huge difference but I'd love to see the muzzleloader season be a primitive firearm season...cap and ball, percussion cap type muzzleloaders (no more in lines and such). Not saying this is something worth pushing but if someone said make a change to the season lengths or make ups of them and this is one I think would be the most logical to me.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Feb 16, 2016 16:06:47 GMT -5
I kind of agree that shortening the firearm seasons will just make the shenanigans and bullcrap that goes on during this time much, much worse. Every single day will be just like opening day and then you can look forward to more people doing stupid things out of desperation to get a deer because the time limit is so short. I am not so sure. I think if they lessoned the regular firearm season, your statement is probably very accurate in some cases. However, if one were to shorten or change any season I honestly think it is the Muzzleloader season. This season was not originally designed for the muzzleloaders hitting the woods today. Many hunters (myself included despite not gun hunting hardly ever) choose to carry a muzzleloader over anything else. Ballistically they are awesome, accuracy is great if kept clean and that is without entering in the smokeless powder ones. It wouldn't make a huge difference but I'd love to see the muzzleloader season be a primitive firearm season...cap and ball, percussion cap type muzzleloaders (no more in lines and such). Not saying this is something worth pushing but if someone said make a change to the season lengths or make ups of them and this is one I think would be the most logical to me. I don't think bow season was meant for compound bows that weigh next to nothing have 80 percent let offs and have fiber optic sights. Should be primitive as possible. long bow only and shorten the season. Logical to me. Lol please don't judge others for their weapon of choice or try to limit what they can or can't use. If it's legal use it.
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