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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 12, 2016 18:33:21 GMT -5
Went to my parents place today to hunt coyotes. Didn't see any but there were many tracks from the early morning or late night activities. I got back by the river and followed it up stream to our other bridge we have across it. Just about to the bridge and I noticed about 20 yards from me on the other side of the river below my deer stand are three does bedded down watching me. Really!?!? So I walk by and got out of their view. I have to go back that way to get back across the river. Yep still laying there. Didn't get up till halfway across the bridge, then they just walked away. Went back home and took a short nap. Got up and worked on a couple things, went outside and there was a nice 8 point buck staring at me from about 35 yards. Slip back in the house and get the camera, look out the back window and he is still there but also a doe is bedded down sleeping. At this time the wife and son are putting hay up in the barn about 80 yards from where these deer are. They come to the house and I point out the deer to them, but the deer stay there. We go inside and watch them for about a half hour and we notice three more deer in the woods. One of them came towards the big buck and he ran him away and then went back by his doe. The other three deer were bucks also, not nearly as big and one only had one antler left. The other two were to far away to see the size of the racks but could tell they were bucks. So these deer at both locations were not scared or worried about me or anyone and that's why I say they definitely do have one and that is a CALENDAR with the seasons marked on it. They may even have a copy of this seasons regulations. Now why was this buck protecting that doe this late in the season?
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Post by deadeer on Feb 12, 2016 19:00:24 GMT -5
Surely she was a hot doe still. I have heard it many times that the rut is a lot longer than we all think, or have been told.
The thing I thought was most interesting about a calender is...that YOU knew when to take a nap while wife and kid were working outside today? Hahahaha, fascinating, lol.
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 12, 2016 19:41:59 GMT -5
Surely she was a hot doe still. I have heard it many times that the rut is a lot longer than we all think, or have been told. The thing I thought was most interesting about a calender is...that YOU knew when to take a nap while wife and kid were working outside today? Hahahaha, fascinating, lol. Hahahahaha Mama didn't raise no dummy!
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Post by esshup on Feb 13, 2016 0:51:48 GMT -5
I've seen a buck chasing a doe across a field in late January. In the reading that I did, it seems that fawns that are born late, also come into estrus late, as much as a few months. So, I'd say the breeding season for does is at least 4 months long, maybe more.
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Post by featherduster on Feb 13, 2016 5:27:10 GMT -5
bullseye69 said: So these deer at both locations were not scared or worried about me or anyone and that's why I say they definitely do have one and that is a CALENDAR with the seasons marked on it. They may even have a copy of this seasons regulations. OR MAYBE They have seen you shoot before.
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Post by deadeer on Feb 13, 2016 8:03:45 GMT -5
bullseye69 said: So these deer at both locations were not scared or worried about me or anyone and that's why I say they definitely do have one and that is a CALENDAR with the seasons marked on it. They may even have a copy of this seasons regulations. OR MAYBE They have seen you shoot before. If that were the case, there would be NO deer staying in LaPorte county then. Jeff signifies his screenname.!
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Post by sakorifle on Feb 21, 2016 4:53:49 GMT -5
I've seen a buck chasing a doe across a field in late January. In the reading that I did, it seems that fawns that are born late, also come into estrus late, as much as a few months. So, I'd say the breeding season for does is at least 4 months long, maybe more. Exactly nailed in esshup over here among roe it is known as the false rut, I am seeing mature bucks with does now And I wish I was not. It's a lot more difficult stalking into two sets of eyes ears and noses than just her by herself Lol Regards Billy
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Post by drs on Feb 21, 2016 5:11:26 GMT -5
I've seen a buck chasing a doe across a field in late January. In the reading that I did, it seems that fawns that are born late, also come into estrus late, as much as a few months. So, I'd say the breeding season for does is at least 4 months long, maybe more. The fact that [some] Doe continue their estrus well into winter; makes me wonder if G.M.O. crops are causing this. On the Buck's side, I wonder if they are [Again Some] are losing their fertility.
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Post by nfalls116 on Feb 21, 2016 5:43:07 GMT -5
I've seen a buck chasing a doe across a field in late January. In the reading that I did, it seems that fawns that are born late, also come into estrus late, as much as a few months. So, I'd say the breeding season for does is at least 4 months long, maybe more. The fact that [some] Doe continue their estrus well into winter; makes me wonder if G.M.O. crops are causing this. On the Buck's side, I wonder if they are [Again Some] are losing their fertility. I think it correlates more with birth month
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Post by drs on Feb 21, 2016 6:00:33 GMT -5
The fact that [some] Doe continue their estrus well into winter; makes me wonder if G.M.O. crops are causing this. On the Buck's side, I wonder if they are [Again Some] are losing their fertility. I think it correlates more with birth month Yes, that is true, but it seems like having a Doe go into estrus LATE is a bit unusual. Normally RUT ends in late December, depending on location. But, like down South, it's a bit later than in the Midwest. EDIT: Found this which might be helpful. www.ansci.wisc.edu/jjp1/ansci_repro/misc/websites09/thur/Deer%20Seasonality/Deer%20Seasonality.html
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Post by chubwub on Feb 21, 2016 11:15:06 GMT -5
I've seen a buck chasing a doe across a field in late January. In the reading that I did, it seems that fawns that are born late, also come into estrus late, as much as a few months. So, I'd say the breeding season for does is at least 4 months long, maybe more. The fact that [some] Doe continue their estrus well into winter; makes me wonder if G.M.O. crops are causing this. On the Buck's side, I wonder if they are [Again Some] are losing their fertility. I'd say a lot of it has to do with warmer weather. It's not uncommon for deer down south to have longer ruts. Blame climate change if anything.
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Post by medic22 on Feb 21, 2016 12:28:31 GMT -5
I have read before That for fawns to come into heat, requires them to reach a "receptive weight".
IVe also read from seperate sources that the more a doe weighs, the more eggs she will produce. Food = energy and all that.
So if that is true, then it is likely that when a fawn goes into heat for the first time will depend on when it was born, and food sources in a given area.
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Post by esshup on Feb 21, 2016 13:46:44 GMT -5
I have read before That for fawns to come into heat, requires them to reach a "receptive weight". IVe also read from seperate sources that the more a doe weighs, the more eggs she will produce. Food = energy and all that. So if that is true, then it is likely that when a fawn goes into heat for the first time will depend on when it was born, and food sources in a given area. I can believe that. Same goes for fish. The larger the female fish, the more eggs she has. I don't think it has anything to do with GMO. Not unless GMO has been around and commonly used 30+ years ago..... I saw it happening (late chasing) in the 70's and early 80's before I left for Ca.
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