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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 30, 2016 8:45:13 GMT -5
Do you believe that baiting of deer should be allowed?
SEE - secure.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-Got-INput_citizen_petitions_2016.pdf
Issues listed here are those that were brought forward by the public for review via citizen petitions.
CITIZEN PETITIONSThe Division of Fish and Wildlife would like your input on these issues that have been brought forward by the public for review and consideration. (Note: these issues do not reflect the opinion or input from DNR Staff). Allow baiting of deerAllow the baiting of deer so that salt and mineral blocks can be used and/or modify the current rule to eliminate accidental or subjective determinations of baiting
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Post by wesb81219 on Apr 30, 2016 11:57:27 GMT -5
This is a touchy subject to me. why are "food plots " allowed when it is essentially the same thing as putting out a salt block or mineral lick or a pile of corn. Only difference is Food plots require more work.
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Post by bart1533 on Apr 30, 2016 12:51:00 GMT -5
This is a touchy subject to me. why are "food plots " allowed when it is essentially the same thing as putting out a salt block or mineral lick or a pile of corn. Only difference is Food plots require more work.
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Post by dbd870 on Apr 30, 2016 15:24:58 GMT -5
I voted yes just to remove the gray areas.
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Post by wesb81219 on Apr 30, 2016 15:37:32 GMT -5
I voted yes just to remove the gray areas. I agree should be all or nothing no gray areas
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Post by throbak on Apr 30, 2016 17:34:04 GMT -5
When disease hits 9 time out of ten it's spread due to congregations at feeding stations (CED) Or Water holes (EHD ) why increase the risk Just do it's easier to kill a Deer Even mineral sites after a while are water hold
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Post by swilk on Apr 30, 2016 18:18:02 GMT -5
Agree....yes, just to eliminate the grey and confusion.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 30, 2016 19:54:25 GMT -5
If you DON'T Bait or hunt over or around a baited area there is no "gray area".....
Many want a set distance so they can set just beyond that distance and hunt!
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Post by wesb81219 on Apr 30, 2016 19:55:29 GMT -5
Do you fellas believe baiting is unethical? There is a part of me that does and a part that believes food plots and mineral sites are good health and herd management. not all hunting grounds are ideal but can be transformed into ideal habitat. with the work it takes one can create the perfect habitat and help the herd in their area thrive and sustain good life and numbers. even if it is only to become someone's harvest. I am not the one to say what is right and what is wrong but if you think for one moment that our ancestors didn't do some of these things I think you are dead wrong. they may not have had the majority of resources we have today but they did have tricks of the trade for their day and age their "technology " or tactics whatever you wanna call it. So everyone's opinion matters everyone's beliefs plays a role in maintaining a standard so if like to know where you all stand on this issue.
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Post by swilk on Apr 30, 2016 20:00:25 GMT -5
If you DON'T Bait or hunt over or around a baited area there is no "gray area"..... Many want a set distance so they can set just beyond that distance and hunt! Not to rehash all of the grey areas but one of particular concern for all hunters should be the possibility of them getting a ticket for something they didn't even do. Hunting in an area another has baited without your knowledge.....the fact that "area" isn't defined is troubling.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 30, 2016 20:06:19 GMT -5
If you DON'T Bait or hunt over or around a baited area there is no "gray area"..... Many want a set distance so they can set just beyond that distance and hunt! Not to rehash all of the grey areas but one of particular concern for all hunters should be the possibility of them getting a ticket for something they didn't even do. Hunting in an area another has baited without your knowledge..... Have you not read what CO Morrison has said about that happening? There is a recent question and answer that addressed fairy clear I believe .
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Post by swilk on Apr 30, 2016 20:08:30 GMT -5
I've read the law. I respect an individual co's opinion on how he would handle it but I'm not foolish enough to confuse that opinion with what the letter of the law says or the possible implications of that wording.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 30, 2016 20:13:09 GMT -5
Lol... Ok your choice.... But in all reality your not getting a ticket.
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Post by firstwd on Apr 30, 2016 22:43:12 GMT -5
If eliminating the gray areas is the goal, why not outlaw food plots (something planted for the sole purpose of consumption by wildlife)?
I still wonder what the exotic plants in food plots are actually doing to the health of the deer.
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Post by wesb81219 on Apr 30, 2016 23:21:26 GMT -5
How can anyone think or say a food plot is any different than a salt block they yield the same results
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Post by drs on May 1, 2016 4:42:46 GMT -5
Kentucky game laws allow baiting of Deer, which I am TOTALLY AGAINST!! It is much more prudent and logical for one to improve his/her property by establishing a sound program of wildlife habitat improvement. Consulting your area Wildlife Habitat Biologist concerning suitable habitat, is much more productive than just dumping a bag of corn in the middle of a woods, during Deer Season. With the help of a Biologist one can make vast improvements to his/her property.
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Post by dbd870 on May 1, 2016 5:21:41 GMT -5
Not to rehash all of the grey areas but one of particular concern for all hunters should be the possibility of them getting a ticket for something they didn't even do. Hunting in an area another has baited without your knowledge..... Have you not read what CO Morrison has said about that happening? There is a recent question and answer that addressed fairy clear I believe . Counting on an officer's discretion is not adequate for me. Back several years ago I met a guy at a State Park hunt who got burned by those very circumstances; it can happen it seems
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Post by greghopper on May 1, 2016 6:23:05 GMT -5
I bet there's more to what happed then what is being said here.....
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Post by Woody Williams on May 1, 2016 7:12:16 GMT -5
I've hunted over bait in Ontario for bears.
I've hunted water holes in Wyoming for pronghorns.
I've hunted wallows in Colorado for elk
I've hunted white/red oak trees for whitetails
I've hunted persimmon trees for whitetails
I've hunted old apple orchards for whitetail
I've hunted picked corn and bean fields for whitetails
I've hunted food plots for whitetails
I don't see it a whole lot different than bringing in bait...but I personally would not bait deer.
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Post by sakorifle on May 1, 2016 7:23:58 GMT -5
Greetings To me baiting is for lamb killing predators and not for deer, in any case if one has to bait using an hpr then one is doing something very wrong. Make your patch nicer than next door and they will come to you anyway. Regards Billy
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