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Post by M4Madness on Apr 5, 2017 18:36:03 GMT -5
They can look down on me all they want -- I won't lose a moment's sleep. Lol! I'm a hardcore bowhunter, but I still like a good rifle now and then. I've been deer hunting over two decades and have only killed one deer beyond 75 yards or so with a firearm. I'd prefer a marksman in the woods over someone who can't shoot accurately.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 5, 2017 18:48:22 GMT -5
Sounds like most of you like the hpr rule. I'm not for it, in areas I think it's fine. But where I live its definitely a safety hazard. Thank god most land owners and hunters here have enough brains not to use them. Only know of a few hunters who hunted in the area with them. Those who did are not highly looked upon. Personally I say there's a difference between a hunter and a marksman. Marksman can stay on the bench with their hprs, us hunters will go to the woods with our shotguns bows and muzzleloaders. Interesting first post....tell us how you really feel
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Post by bgm on Apr 5, 2017 18:58:23 GMT -5
You sound like a hunter with good ethics and judgement. Your not the concern. I have a relative and another aquaintance who are both good people, but when they see horns their brains turn to mush. These are the people who worry me.
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Post by M4Madness on Apr 5, 2017 19:18:55 GMT -5
You sound like a hunter with good ethics and judgement. Your not the concern. I have a relative and another aquaintance who are both good people, but when they see horns their brains turn to mush. These are the people who worry me. The thing is that unsafe hunters are unsafe with whatever weapon is in their hands. Legislation isn't going to change that. Thankfully, there weren't any recorded incidents last season involving hunting with HPR's. That shows that the general public is using them in a safe a manner, unlike the slug hunters who seem to shoot someone here in Indiana on a regular basis.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 5, 2017 19:24:17 GMT -5
You sound like a hunter with good ethics and judgement. Your not the concern. I have a relative and another aquaintance who are both good people, but when they see horns their brains turn to mush. These are the people who worry me. unlike the slug hunters who seem to shoot someone here in Indiana on a regular basis. You cant be serious .....that not even a half way comparison on who is using what..SMH
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Post by firstwd on Apr 5, 2017 19:24:58 GMT -5
Sounds like most of you like the hpr rule. I'm not for it, in areas I think it's fine. But where I live its definitely a safety hazard. Thank god most land owners and hunters here have enough brains not to use them. Only know of a few hunters who hunted in the area with them. Those who did are not highly looked upon. Personally I say there's a difference between a hunter and a marksman. Marksman can stay on the bench with their hprs, us hunters will go to the woods with our shotguns bows and muzzleloaders. Please, for those uneducated among us, explain how and why an HPR is dangerous in one area over another? How an HPR is more dangerous than a muzzleloader or shotgun? How an HPR round in a long gun is more dangerous than that very same round in a handgun? And, of course, how one person's opinion of others should determine what those others can and cannot hunt with?
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Post by M4Madness on Apr 5, 2017 19:29:38 GMT -5
unlike the slug hunters who seem to shoot someone here in Indiana on a regular basis. You cant be serious .....that not even a half way comparison on who is using what..SMH I wasn't digging on slug hunters -- just pointing out that all the deer hunting accidents in Indiana since PCR's were legalized have been with slug guns.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 5, 2017 19:36:31 GMT -5
And what percent use what?
Let get all the facts out in the open!
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Post by M4Madness on Apr 5, 2017 19:45:42 GMT -5
And what percent use what? Let get all the facts out in the open! Exactly my point. More people use slug guns, so it stands to reason that they are statistically more likely than someone with a HPR to shoot someone. Some interesting reading: www.ihea-usa.org/news-and-events/news/105-incident-reports
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Post by js2397 on Apr 5, 2017 20:29:24 GMT -5
2015 harvest stats
35% of the harvest was shotgun
20% of the harvest was muzzleloader
19% of the harvest was rifle
1% of the harvest was handgun
The rest was bow and crossbow
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Post by span870 on Apr 5, 2017 20:48:21 GMT -5
I probably jinxed the bill since I sold my Remington 700 in .308 and bought a rare Ruger American Predator in .25-06 Rem tonight. Lol! It turns out that Ruger doesn't make that particular rifle model in that caliber for the general public, but did so as a promotional deal to reward companies that sell lots of Ruger rifles. I managed to snag the only one I could find for sale online. It is already factory threaded for a suppressor. www.ruger.com/products/americanRiflePredator/models.htmlImo one of the best deer rounds going. Often overlooked by guys wanting the big three; 06, 270, 308. Flat shooting and no recoil. I always push guys interested in a 243 to try the 25-06.
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Post by esshup on Apr 5, 2017 22:11:42 GMT -5
Sounds like most of you like the hpr rule. I'm not for it, in areas I think it's fine. But where I live its definitely a safety hazard. Thank god most land owners and hunters here have enough brains not to use them. Only know of a few hunters who hunted in the area with them. Those who did are not highly looked upon. Personally I say there's a difference between a hunter and a marksman. Marksman can stay on the bench with their hprs, us hunters will go to the woods with our shotguns bows and muzzleloaders. Question for you on the safety aspect. What in particular makes them any less safe than pistols that shoot the same cartridge? Why would they be less safe during deer season vs. varmint season when they are legal to use for varmints like coyotes?
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Post by esshup on Apr 5, 2017 22:31:28 GMT -5
I probably jinxed the bill since I sold my Remington 700 in .308 and bought a rare Ruger American Predator in .25-06 Rem tonight. Lol! It turns out that Ruger doesn't make that particular rifle model in that caliber for the general public, but did so as a promotional deal to reward companies that sell lots of Ruger rifles. I managed to snag the only one I could find for sale online. It is already factory threaded for a suppressor. www.ruger.com/products/americanRiflePredator/models.htmlImo one of the best deer rounds going. Often overlooked by guys wanting the big three; 06, 270, 308. Flat shooting and no recoil. I always push guys interested in a 243 to try the 25-06. Agreed on the 25-06. I would just use a bullet that is made for higher velocity impacts. Case in point. .257 Weatherby. Shot a doe at 80 yds with a 100g Nosler Ballistic tip. She was downhill from me, the bullet entered high on the near lung and exploded inside, not exiting the deer. Luckily I was able to watch her run until she fell, 80 yards away. There was no blood trail for the first 70 yards. I have since switched to Barnes copper bullets and all have exited, leaving a good blood trail. I have not recovered a Barnes from a deer yet. I shot a forkhorn buck this year with a .243 with the 85g Barnes. The buck was only about 25 yds away with his head down. Bullet entered the top of the neck right in front of the shoulders and exited the scrotum..... I didn't ruin hardly any meat, but it was a mess to field dress. Luckily there was water close by to wash out the carcass.
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Post by js2397 on Apr 6, 2017 4:46:35 GMT -5
I probably jinxed the bill since I sold my Remington 700 in .308 and bought a rare Ruger American Predator in .25-06 Rem tonight. Lol! It turns out that Ruger doesn't make that particular rifle model in that caliber for the general public, but did so as a promotional deal to reward companies that sell lots of Ruger rifles. I managed to snag the only one I could find for sale online. It is already factory threaded for a suppressor. www.ruger.com/products/americanRiflePredator/models.htmlImo one of the best deer rounds going. Often overlooked by guys wanting the big three; 06, 270, 308. Flat shooting and no recoil. I always push guys interested in a 243 to try the 25-06. 25-06 and 6.5 creedmoor are on my list for my next two rifles now that this has passed.
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Post by M4Madness on Apr 6, 2017 4:57:52 GMT -5
Imo one of the best deer rounds going. Often overlooked by guys wanting the big three; 06, 270, 308. Flat shooting and no recoil. I always push guys interested in a 243 to try the 25-06. I've been a .25-06 fan for as long as I can remember. I've owned various models over the years, but haven't had one for quite some time. My favorite from the past was a stainless, fluted Remington 700 Sendero. It was a beautiful rifle, but heavy. This new Ruger is supposedly 6.6 pounds, which would put it right there with Remington's 6.5 pound mountain rifle.
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Post by M4Madness on Apr 6, 2017 5:05:12 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on Apr 6, 2017 8:23:01 GMT -5
7mm-08 for me .... plan to buy one as soon as the ink is dry.
I bought a Remington M7 243 this past winter that I plan to set up for my dad and eventually my son to use. Nice little rifle ... light, points easy.
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Post by js2397 on Apr 10, 2017 6:44:49 GMT -5
2015 harvest stats 35% of the harvest was shotgun 20% of the harvest was muzzleloader 19% of the harvest was rifle 1% of the harvest was handgun 9% of the harvest was crossbow 16% of the harvest was bow Rifles now make up the majority of the harvest. 24% of the harvest was shotgun 14% of the harvest was muzzleloader 37% of the harvest was rifle .5% of the harvest was handgun 9% of the harvest was crossbow 14% of the harvest was bow
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Post by barton174 on Apr 10, 2017 17:22:39 GMT -5
Done like it's a done deal, or done like... something else? Mike
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Post by jjas on Apr 10, 2017 18:10:24 GMT -5
2015 harvest stats 35% of the harvest was shotgun 20% of the harvest was muzzleloader 19% of the harvest was rifle 1% of the harvest was handgun 9% of the harvest was crossbow 16% of the harvest was bow Rifles now make up the majority of the harvest. 24% of the harvest was shotgun 14% of the harvest was muzzleloader 37% of the harvest was rifle .5% of the harvest was handgun 9% of the harvest was crossbow 14% of the harvest was bow Xbow seems to be holding @ around 9% and vertical bow seems to be dropping... I wonder if that's due to an overall aging hunting population?
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