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Post by steiny on Apr 18, 2017 8:33:01 GMT -5
Nice mess of fish ! Hope to get back out this afternoon.
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Post by colts1888 on Apr 18, 2017 12:11:02 GMT -5
Ive been tearing up the crappie up here at Mississinewa since January, now that the water temp has warmed though i have started to target the smallies here in Logansport along the eel river. Landed my personal best last evening. I have caught probably 40 smallies in 2 trips saturday and yesterday. This fish was released to fight another day.
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Post by featherduster on Apr 18, 2017 15:37:01 GMT -5
Now were talkin!
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Post by esshup on Apr 19, 2017 10:02:24 GMT -5
Ive been tearing up the crappie up here at Mississinewa since January, now that the water temp has warmed though i have started to target the smallies here in Logansport along the eel river. Landed my personal best last evening. I have caught probably 40 smallies in 2 trips saturday and yesterday. This fish was released to fight another day. colts1888, that is a really nice Smallie. Congrats on a great catch!! As a pond manager and a person that has experience with bass C&R, please use two hands when holding a fish of that caliber. One in the mouth, the other supporting the majority of the fish weight, either under the belly or near the tail. See how it's mouth is bent open and it's gills are flared? That puts a lot of stress on the fish, and could injure the fish. Bass Pro Shops, who take fish in that are caught from public water for their fish aquariums has a fish hospital to quarantine fish before releasing into their fish tanks. They have had to do surgery on bass that have had their lower jaw dislocated by fishermen holding them just by their jaw and not supporting the tail/belly of the fish with their other hand. A friend and client has a trophy bass pond. It's 35 acres. His rule is only have the fish out of water 30 seconds or less, don't let it touch the ground or the bottom of the boat and always use 2 hands to pick it up. He's caught, released and re-caught bass up to 12 pounds from his pond, so we know his technique works. (bass are tagged with a numbered floy tag so we know if it was caught before.)
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Post by nfalls116 on Apr 19, 2017 17:48:46 GMT -5
Ive been tearing up the crappie up here at Mississinewa since January, now that the water temp has warmed though i have started to target the smallies here in Logansport along the eel river. Landed my personal best last evening. I have caught probably 40 smallies in 2 trips saturday and yesterday. This fish was released to fight another day. colts1888, that is a really nice Smallie. Congrats on a great catch!! As a pond manager and a person that has experience with bass C&R, please use two hands when holding a fish of that caliber. One in the mouth, the other supporting the majority of the fish weight, either under the belly or near the tail. See how it's mouth is bent open and it's gills are flared? That puts a lot of stress on the fish, and could injure the fish. Bass Pro Shops, who take fish in that are caught from public water for their fish aquariums has a fish hospital to quarantine fish before releasing into their fish tanks. They have had to do surgery on bass that have had their lower jaw dislocated by fishermen holding them just by their jaw and not supporting the tail/belly of the fish with their other hand. A friend and client has a trophy bass pond. It's 35 acres. His rule is only have the fish out of water 30 seconds or less, don't let it touch the ground or the bottom of the boat and always use 2 hands to pick it up. He's caught, released and re-caught bass up to 12 pounds from his pond, so we know his technique works. (bass are tagged with a numbered floy tag so we know if it was caught before.) We need pictures 🤣😂
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Post by esshup on Apr 19, 2017 19:21:53 GMT -5
We need pictures 🤣😂 Here ya go!!!
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Post by nfalls116 on Apr 19, 2017 20:30:06 GMT -5
We need pictures 🤣😂 Here ya go!!! Nice fish And I will in the future try to take better care to not hold by jaw
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Post by colts1888 on Apr 19, 2017 21:33:54 GMT -5
Im surprised if there is overwhelming evidence that you break a jaw everytime you lip a bass in that manner that this is allowed in all the major bass tournaments. Not only that, but apparently Bass Pro has a hospital where they fix broken jaws from fisherman, yet at the same time sponsor guys like this Appreciate the advice but i will hold a fish the way i want and you can hold your fish the way you want.
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Post by esshup on Apr 19, 2017 22:41:06 GMT -5
Im surprised if there is overwhelming evidence that you break a jaw everytime you lip a bass in that manner that this is allowed in all the major bass tournaments. Not only that, but apparently Bass Pro has a hospital where they fix broken jaws from fisherman, yet at the same time sponsor guys like this Appreciate the advice but i will hold a fish the way i want and you can hold your fish the way you want. Hold the fish any way you want, but if you don't want to hold them correctly you have a reduced chance of them surviving to be caught again. Instead of holding it that way and releasing it, hold it that way and keep it for the table. If you are fishing public waters you might be killing a fish I want to catch. Not only do they (Bass Pro Shops) do surgery, they treat wounds and diseases before they place a fish in any of their aquariums for display. They hold the fish in quarantine for around 4 months to make sure nothing is wrong. Just like any TV reality show, what is on TV is not necessarily what should be done in real life. www.yakangler.com/kayak-fishing-techniques/item/304-the-horizontal-lip-gripPay special attention to where it says any fish over 3 pounds..... Here's a broken jaw in a Largemouth Bass. Will the fish live? Maybe. Will it still continue to grow to it's maximum potential? Doubtful.
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Post by colts1888 on Apr 20, 2017 0:01:42 GMT -5
I don't keep any smallmouth bass for the table, i catch and release only and catch a ton of them every year. Hold every one of them the same way too. I just dont think me holding a fish vertically for a quick photo is killing the fish. Bassmaster.com had an article in march of last year that studied 3 different handling techniques (horizontal 2 hands, vertical, and tilted horizontal) with the help of a fisheries biologists and did not notice any permanent jaw damage from either of the 3 techniques. Feeding habits were not affected either. The only difference noted was recovery time and it was a difference of seconds. Considering i make sure my fish are recovered before i let them swim off i am not worried about that either. We can agree to disagree. There is not clear cut evidence on the issue.
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Post by freedomhunter on Apr 20, 2017 5:25:20 GMT -5
great smallmouth! Looks to be what about 19" around 4lb?
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Post by featherduster on Apr 20, 2017 6:33:55 GMT -5
There is a bass fishing tournament series on television called ( MLF ) Major League Fishing where the fish are weighed immediately in the boat and scored on a computer by a judge in that boat then the fish is released. If that fish touches that boat in any way the fisherman is docked 2 minutes of fishing time.
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Post by colts1888 on Apr 20, 2017 12:22:09 GMT -5
great smallmouth! Looks to be what about 19" around 4lb? You are good. Right on the money. Gotta try to find a bigger one now. As i was fighting this fish i seen one come out of the water chasing minnows that was every bit as big as this one, maybe bigger. My cousin caught one downstream from this spot 2 years ago that was 19 inches as well. He had his mounted. Every now and then you will get into one like this that makes your jaw drop when you see him jump out of the water, but the river is also full of nice 1-3 pounders and on good days you can catch several in that range. Just a fun river to fish, nice walleye sometimes in the fall too that swim in from where it meets the wabash.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Apr 20, 2017 13:42:10 GMT -5
Ive been tearing up the crappie up here at Mississinewa since January, now that the water temp has warmed though i have started to target the smallies here in Logansport along the eel river. Landed my personal best last evening. I have caught probably 40 smallies in 2 trips saturday and yesterday. This fish was released to fight another day. colts1888, that is a really nice Smallie. Congrats on a great catch!! As a pond manager and a person that has experience with bass C&R, please use two hands when holding a fish of that caliber. One in the mouth, the other supporting the majority of the fish weight, either under the belly or near the tail. See how it's mouth is bent open and it's gills are flared? That puts a lot of stress on the fish, and could injure the fish. Bass Pro Shops, who take fish in that are caught from public water for their fish aquariums has a fish hospital to quarantine fish before releasing into their fish tanks. They have had to do surgery on bass that have had their lower jaw dislocated by fishermen holding them just by their jaw and not supporting the tail/belly of the fish with their other hand. A friend and client has a trophy bass pond. It's 35 acres. His rule is only have the fish out of water 30 seconds or less, don't let it touch the ground or the bottom of the boat and always use 2 hands to pick it up. He's caught, released and re-caught bass up to 12 pounds from his pond, so we know his technique works. (bass are tagged with a numbered floy tag so we know if it was caught before.) Interesting.. I'd hate to think I'm killing a fish by holding it wrong. I catch very few fish of that caliber anyway though. How do you remove the hook while holding it with both hands?
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Post by freedomhunter on Apr 20, 2017 16:23:36 GMT -5
great smallmouth! Looks to be what about 19" around 4lb? You are good. Right on the money. Gotta try to find a bigger one now. As i was fighting this fish i seen one come out of the water chasing minnows that was every bit as big as this one, maybe bigger. My cousin caught one downstream from this spot 2 years ago that was 19 inches as well. He had his mounted. Every now and then you will get into one like this that makes your jaw drop when you see him jump out of the water, but the river is also full of nice 1-3 pounders and on good days you can catch several in that range. Just a fun river to fish, nice walleye sometimes in the fall too that swim in from where it meets the wabash. Pulled my two best out of Erie exact same size as that.
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Post by nfalls116 on Apr 20, 2017 19:28:10 GMT -5
Whatever anyone does don't trust a guy who manages fish for a living I mean how would he know anything about fish
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Post by budd on Apr 21, 2017 7:37:42 GMT -5
Ive been tearing up the crappie up here at Mississinewa since January, now that the water temp has warmed though i have started to target the smallies here in Logansport along the eel river. Landed my personal best last evening. I have caught probably 40 smallies in 2 trips saturday and yesterday. This fish was released to fight another day. Nice fish Brad. Years ago when they would let members fish and hunt at the labor camp we would smash the smallies in the mouth of the creek. Brother Rick and nephew Matt have been catching them in Logan as well.
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Post by esshup on Apr 21, 2017 9:23:47 GMT -5
How do you remove the hook while holding it with both hands? You have them in the net in the water, take the hook out. Then pick up for the glory picture and put back in the water. One hand to hold the fisn in the water, one hand to remove the hook(s). I could never see lipping a bass with a mouth full of treble hooks in the first place. Those rubberized nets are much easier on the fish too - they don't remove as much of the slime coating on the fish as the knotted nylon nets do. It's not that big of a deal if the fish is caught in water temp that is in their optimum growing range, but I've seen fish fungus up when handled in water cooler than what they prefer, such as Bluegills in water less than 50 degrees. Sure, ice fishing and throwing fish back won't hurt the fishery but you wouldn't want me to deliver 1,000-3,000 bluegills for your pond and have them fungus up. You'd be on the phone wanting me to replace fish because I screwed up.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Apr 21, 2017 10:24:50 GMT -5
How do you remove the hook while holding it with both hands? You have them in the net in the water, take the hook out. Then pick up for the glory picture and put back in the water. One hand to hold the fisn in the water, one hand to remove the hook(s). I could never see lipping a bass with a mouth full of treble hooks in the first place. Those rubberized nets are much easier on the fish too - they don't remove as much of the slime coating on the fish as the knotted nylon nets do. It's not that big of a deal if the fish is caught in water temp that is in their optimum growing range, but I've seen fish fungus up when handled in water cooler than what they prefer, such as Bluegills in water less than 50 degrees. Sure, ice fishing and throwing fish back won't hurt the fishery but you wouldn't want me to deliver 1,000-3,000 bluegills for your pond and have them fungus up. You'd be on the phone wanting me to replace fish because I screwed up. I see.. I nearly always fish from the bank, which would make that a touch more difficult. Does the same concern exist with catfish?
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Post by budd on Apr 21, 2017 10:29:08 GMT -5
Holly Sh!t!!!! Now we are arguing on how to hold a fish!!! Cant we STOP? I could care less what everyone does with their fish, the man was releasing it, isn't that good enough? Grow up and quit trying to find something to about, enjoy it for what it is (a nice fish being returned to the water).
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