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Post by hornzilla on Sept 28, 2017 8:35:09 GMT -5
Many many times. Mainly while duck hunting or fishing. Only infraction was a stray lead shell in my waterfowl bag...no clue where it came from but no disputes. Duck hunters have so many rules I think they are easy pickings. Boaters are easy too. It always seems that I'm checked when waterfowl hunt myself. Maybe its because I hunt them more than anything else.
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Post by steiny on Sept 28, 2017 9:08:55 GMT -5
In 40+ years of hunting & fishing I have never been checked while hunting in Indiana. Have been checked 3-4 times while fishing.
Got checked one time in Wyoming deer hunting and multiple times fishing in other states, mostly Michigan.
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Post by hatchetjack on Sept 28, 2017 10:29:20 GMT -5
Probably 1/2 dozen in the field over 65+ years both water and hunting.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Sept 28, 2017 12:04:03 GMT -5
Only once while fishing at a public park,they make their rounds once in awhile there checking everybody.
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Post by jimstc on Sept 28, 2017 16:17:22 GMT -5
Once on my property. The CO was great. I have his cell phone number and e mail address. Whenever I have a question he is always available and helpful. These guys and gals are a benefit to hunting and fishing
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Post by brucevillebowhunter on Sept 28, 2017 20:45:43 GMT -5
I live in Bedford, a couple years ago I got checked in Greybull Wyoming by a warden who had lived in Oolitic for awhile. Oolitic is basically on the outskirts of Bedford. Small world. I get checked pretty frequently around home, but so far only when I've been night hunting. Played many AAU basketball in Oolitic. That's awesome
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Post by Sasquatch on Sept 29, 2017 9:28:39 GMT -5
Never in the field. Course I never hunted or fished public areas much.
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Post by poc on Oct 17, 2017 14:51:58 GMT -5
How is it they can ask to see licenses? Is this not like a Terry stop, which are illegal? Just curious. Never had one stop me. Did have one harass some friends who were sitting in my sister's yard with deer hanging. ironjaw can tell the whole story.
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Post by featherduster on Oct 17, 2017 15:42:41 GMT -5
Did your friends file a harassment complaint because he was checking on a harvested deer?
And unless I am wrong a Terry stop is legal.
Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court which held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."[1
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Post by beehunter on Oct 17, 2017 21:02:27 GMT -5
I have been checked 13 times in Indiana and 1 time in Wyoming. I fish Greene Sullivan state forest alot and it's a good place to get checked. I stay legal and I am always very polite, honest and courteous and they are usually the same.
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Post by poc on Oct 17, 2017 21:36:56 GMT -5
Did your friends file a harassment complaint because he was checking on a harvested deer? And unless I am wrong a Terry stop is legal. Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court which held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."[1 As I was using "Terry stop" meant that they did NOT have a reasonable suspicion that a crime was being committed. Police can't stop you and check your license "just because". The same way, Indiana Supreme Court says police can't stop a person that is carrying a gun to check for a LTCH, just because. So why can COs stop and check for a license when there is no other suspicion of wrong doing?
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Post by nfalls116 on Oct 17, 2017 22:07:30 GMT -5
Did your friends file a harassment complaint because he was checking on a harvested deer? And unless I am wrong a Terry stop is legal. Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court which held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."[1 As I was using "Terry stop" meant that they did NOT have a reasonable suspicion that a crime was being committed. Police can't stop you and check your license "just because". The same way, Indiana Supreme Court says police can't stop a person that is carrying a gun to check for a LTCH, just because. So why can COs stop and check for a license when there is no other suspicion of wrong doing? The same reason a regular cop pulls someone over for left of center after they tailgate you with their brights on "for your safety"
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Post by featherduster on Oct 18, 2017 6:04:54 GMT -5
Did your friends file a harassment complaint because he was checking on a harvested deer? And unless I am wrong a Terry stop is legal. Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court which held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."[1 As I was using "Terry stop" meant that they did NOT have a reasonable suspicion that a crime was being committed. Police can't stop you and check your license "just because". The same way, Indiana Supreme Court says police can't stop a person that is carrying a gun to check for a LTCH, just because. So why can COs stop and check for a license when there is no other suspicion of wrong doing? The last sentence says it all "or is about to commit a crime". You are in the field with a weapon it appears you intend to shoot something or your holding a fishing rod in your hand your about to fish for something do you have a license or not, is your gun plugged for waterfowl, do you have life jackets ect.
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Post by nfalls116 on Oct 18, 2017 6:24:27 GMT -5
Oh yeah and we let them....
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Post by poc on Oct 18, 2017 6:26:53 GMT -5
As I was using "Terry stop" meant that they did NOT have a reasonable suspicion that a crime was being committed. Police can't stop you and check your license "just because". The same way, Indiana Supreme Court says police can't stop a person that is carrying a gun to check for a LTCH, just because. So why can COs stop and check for a license when there is no other suspicion of wrong doing? The last sentence says it all "or is about to commit a crime". You are in the field with a weapon it appears you intend to shoot something or your holding a fishing rod in your hand your about to fish for something do you have a license or not, is your gun plugged for waterfowl, do you have life jackets ect. I'm carrying a pistol on my hip, do I have a License to carry it? Same logic and the Indiana Supreme Court has said, no, you can't just stop and ask them.
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Post by featherduster on Oct 18, 2017 8:10:59 GMT -5
The original question was regarding being stopped in the field one can only assume that they meant during hunting season, not on the street walking.
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Post by poc on Oct 18, 2017 9:55:54 GMT -5
That doesn't matter. I still think they'd have to have "reasonable suspicion that a crime has, is or is about to be committed."
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Post by jman46151 on Oct 18, 2017 11:09:17 GMT -5
I've been checked a couple dozen times in various states. In TN they were a big presence on the water. Saw multiple boats getting checked at the ramps and one night someone was running a jet ski after dark. That lasted about 5 minutes before the CO stopped him. In one year in NE I saw them a couple times but never was checked. In WY they set up check stations and all hunters are required to stop. All of the wardens and biologists that we came into contact with were very nice out there. Been checked a few times in Indiana and no problems. I was out around March 1 and was out looking for sheds and had a CO waiting at my truck. He probably thought I was still hunting rabbits. I was spotlighting some public land went down a small lane and right as I was starting to turn around to leave a CO turned on his lights, scaring the crap out of me. He had followed me down there with his headlights off. He checked my truck and once everything checked out I went about my way.
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Post by jackryan on Oct 18, 2017 23:13:23 GMT -5
I've been checked a couple or three times in all my life.
One time on the water and one time in HNF, turkey season. I'd already been home and gone back out to just drive around my usual spots to see how hard they were getting hunted and I stopped to talk to some people in a camp. While I was there a game warden came up and shot the breeze a little. As he leaves he says the usual "Oh could I just check every body's license since I'm here?" We all been talking an hour or more by then and I just reach in my pocket and ought oh, I left my wallet at home when I was at home. He checks every one and get's to me. "I don't have mine. I'm not hunting, just visiting." Thought for sure I'd catch it for that but nope. No biggie. I never said I didn't have it, just that I'm not hunting. We WERE in camp though.
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Post by throbak on Oct 19, 2017 6:24:47 GMT -5
Last time I was checked I was in the barn in Long Johns and Gum boots .wife told em where I was and here they came They had fun with that They were friends too 😂
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