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Scope help
Nov 30, 2017 10:21:08 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Nov 30, 2017 10:21:08 GMT -5
Not a huge rifle guy. Usually just put a scope on and sight it in no problems. Have a Marlin xl7 .243 that put a scope on. It's a Leopold vx4. Got it sighted in but I am literally bottomed out on the scope adjustment to the left. Why? How do I fix this?
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 30, 2017 10:36:03 GMT -5
Wonder if the receiver is drilled correctly? Could be the scope as well. Burris signature rings with the inserts would also be an option
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Scope help
Nov 30, 2017 12:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Nov 30, 2017 12:11:35 GMT -5
The scope was 100% perfect on the gun I took it off of and the base is integrated into the gun, tacked on from factory.
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Post by oldhoyt on Nov 30, 2017 12:45:59 GMT -5
Could try swapping the rings around, assuming they are interchangeable. I've heard of a procedure called lapping the rings, which assures the rings are in alignment with each other. I'm guessing that may help. Can you get another set of rings to try?
Also, has this gun ever had another scope on it, and was there any issue?
Not saying you're wrong, but the XL7s I've seen don't have an integrated base, say like a Ruger M77 does. Are you saying the base is tacked on, as in welded? Is this gun in original condition?
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Scope help
Nov 30, 2017 13:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Nov 30, 2017 13:56:38 GMT -5
Could try swapping the rings around, assuming they are interchangeable. I've heard of a procedure called lapping the rings, which assures the rings are in alignment with each other. I'm guessing that may help. Can you get another set of rings to try? Also, has this gun ever had another scope on it, and was there any issue? Not saying you're wrong, but the XL7s I've seen don't have an integrated base, say like a Ruger M77 does. Are you saying the base is tacked on, as in welded? Is this gun in original condition? Brand new gun. First shots ever fired out of it. Won it several years ago. Base came from Marlin that one. Receiver and base one piece |
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Post by oldhoyt on Nov 30, 2017 15:00:35 GMT -5
I'd call Marlin and see if they will send you anther set of rings. If it's not the rings, and the scope is working, it's the receiver.
I suppose you could shim it, as is sometimes done to gain more elevation. I believe you would position the shim to point the scope to the right. I've read that some folks use a little piece of aluminum can between the scope and the ring (front ring - shim on left side of scope. rear ring - shim on right side of scope).
Hopefully new rings are the answer.
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Post by nfalls116 on Nov 30, 2017 15:18:10 GMT -5
It’s your elevation knob that’s bottomed our right?
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Post by span870 on Nov 30, 2017 15:21:24 GMT -5
Could try swapping the rings around, assuming they are interchangeable. I've heard of a procedure called lapping the rings, which assures the rings are in alignment with each other. I'm guessing that may help. Can you get another set of rings to try? Also, has this gun ever had another scope on it, and was there any issue? Not saying you're wrong, but the XL7s I've seen don't have an integrated base, say like a Ruger M77 does. Are you saying the base is tacked on, as in welded? Is this gun in original condition? Scratch that. It's an xs7 not L and it is a screw on base not welded. Screws were under the rings. |
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Scope help
Nov 30, 2017 15:21:48 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Nov 30, 2017 15:21:48 GMT -5
It’s your elevation knob that’s bottomed our right? No. Left and right. |
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 30, 2017 15:43:39 GMT -5
Could try swapping the rings around, assuming they are interchangeable. I've heard of a procedure called lapping the rings, which assures the rings are in alignment with each other. I'm guessing that may help. Can you get another set of rings to try? Also, has this gun ever had another scope on it, and was there any issue? Not saying you're wrong, but the XL7s I've seen don't have an integrated base, say like a Ruger M77 does. Are you saying the base is tacked on, as in welded? Is this gun in original condition? Scratch that. It's an xs7 not L and it is a screw on base not welded. Screws were under the rings. Yeah I knew they didn't come from the factory welded, however I wondered if someone did it afterwards when you posted that - which made me suspicious. Glad that didn't happen. |
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Post by oldhoyt on Nov 30, 2017 16:23:02 GMT -5
Well then, it could be bad drilling/tapping from the factory, or could be the base, or the rings, or a cumulative effect from all of those. Some guys have luck turning the base around or swapping the rings front to back. Worth a try.
Once you've turned the base and/or swapped the rings, set the scope back to zero (left to right) and mount it. Then check to see the the bore is pointing where the crosshairs are. You can do that by putting the gun on some kind of support with the bolt removed. Look through the bore and center a distant object in the bore, then without moving the gun look through the scope. The crosshairs should be pretty close to that object. If its off a bit, dial the crosshairs to the object. Shouldn't take much adjustment.
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Post by span870 on Nov 30, 2017 16:41:07 GMT -5
Okay, sooooo what you're saying is go buy a new rifle because that's what I'm taking away from this conversation.
Seriously not planning on using it all all this year. Matter of fact already pulled the scope off it. I'll try some of these suggestions and let ya know what the outcome is.
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Scope help
Nov 30, 2017 16:44:19 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Nov 30, 2017 16:44:19 GMT -5
Post some pics of how it's mounted.... that would help some maybe
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Post by esshup on Nov 30, 2017 19:03:32 GMT -5
Ditto what others have said here, except you can't shim for horizontal movement. Not enough play side to side in the rings. Vertical yes. O.K. wait a minute. Are the rings split horizontally or vertically? i.e. are the ring screws on the top or the side of the rings?
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Scope help
Nov 30, 2017 19:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by span870 on Nov 30, 2017 19:23:36 GMT -5
Side
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Post by deadeer on Nov 30, 2017 22:20:30 GMT -5
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Post by esshup on Dec 1, 2017 19:59:14 GMT -5
That's one of the reasons why I dislike the vertical split rings...
If the rings are split vertically, then you can shim one or the other to move the scope more to the center. If the scope is shooting to the right and you have to have the adjustment all the way left, put the shim (I'd use a strip of aluminum from a pop can to start with) on the right side of the scope at the front ring. See how much that moves it. If not enough, I'd add a shim to the left side of the rear ring next. I don't like stacking shims.
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