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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 17, 2018 8:31:49 GMT -5
COUNTY BONUS QUOTAS.... . I questioned the DNR Deer Biologist about how the County Antlerless Bonus Quotas are derived at. Some hunters believe that the "stakeholders" and other outside influences the decision making process. Not quite true. And they don't use a dart board either.  His answer - |
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Post by greghopper on Jan 17, 2018 8:42:34 GMT -5
So we are in a maintain mode not a Reduction mode?
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Post by jjas on Jan 17, 2018 8:57:07 GMT -5
My guess is that would depend upon the harvest data trends for each individual county, but overall that was my understanding.
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Post by jman46151 on Jan 17, 2018 9:04:08 GMT -5
This thread reminded me of a question I had....I was looking at the state park reduction hunt report a couple of months ago and was curious about how they decide where to have the hunts. Can someone explain how "harvest to effort" ratio is an effective way to judge population? I wonder if they use "harvest per effort" as one of their statistics for county bonus antlerless quotas. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start anything, as I really don't understand the science on this. It seems flawed. What if a couple buddies decide to do one of these reduction hunts so they get together the night before and have one too many and fall asleep in the woods? Or doesn't show up for the second day? Or someone like me who buys the bundle license for the convenience of not having to buy tags for multiple seasons but is okay with not filling all 3 tags? Here's the report: link |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 17, 2018 9:36:30 GMT -5
To give input on this and other subject contact the Division of Fish & Wildlife can be contacted via e-mail at dfw@dnr.in.gov Division staff strives to answer questions in three business days. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 17, 2018 9:50:00 GMT -5
This thread reminded me of a question I had....I was looking at the state park reduction hunt report a couple of months ago and was curious about how they decide where to have the hunts. Can someone explain how "harvest to effort" ratio is an effective way to judge population? I wonder if they use "harvest per effort" as one of their statistics for county bonus antlerless quotas. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or start anything, as I really don't understand the science on this. It seems flawed. What if a couple buddies decide to do one of these reduction hunts so they get together the night before and have one too many and fall asleep in the woods? Or doesn't show up for the second day? Or someone like me who buys the bundle license for the convenience of not having to buy tags for multiple seasons but is okay with not filling all 3 tags? Here's the report: linkI'm not sure but I'm guessing that the DNR does not use a "harvest to effort" ratio on County Bonus Anlerless Quotas as they have no idea how many deer hunters are out there. The park hunts do know how many folks are out there on any given hunt/day as they have to sign in and out.. Falling asleep in the woods? I guess we are all guilty of that from time to time, but we are still out there and that counts as an "effort" |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 17, 2018 9:53:10 GMT -5
So we are in a maintain mode not a Reduction mode? IMHO... Maintain in some counties.. Reduction in some counties.. Increase in some counties.. When a present reduction county hits a level that the DNR is satisfied with my guess it would go to maintain level. |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 17, 2018 11:29:13 GMT -5
So we are in a maintain mode not a Reduction mode? IMHO... Maintain in some counties.. Reduction in some counties.. Increase in some counties.. When a present reduction county hits a level that the DNR is satisfied with my guess it would go to maintain level. Yep. This is how it should be handled. Personally I would like to see the Bundle done away with and a tag good for 1 Buck and 1 Doe any weapon adopted. A hunter would then purchase a tag for each additional bonus antlerless. Simplify. Our current system is as easy to understand as tax code. |
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 17, 2018 12:03:22 GMT -5
IMHO... Maintain in some counties.. Reduction in some counties.. Increase in some counties.. When a present reduction county hits a level that the DNR is satisfied with my guess it would go to maintain level. Yep. This is how it should be handled. Personally I would like to see the Bundle done away with and a tag good for 1 Buck and 1 Doe any weapon adopted. A hunter would then purchase a tag for each additional bonus antlerless. Simplify. Our current system is as easy to understand as tax code. Ky is 1 Buck/1 Doe (or 2 does) with your first tag, any season. No individual licenses. You can buy another tag good for 2 more does - after that you are done. (now there are different zones there so keep that in mind). I would like to see IN adopt this structure |
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 17, 2018 13:33:51 GMT -5
Yep. This is how it should be handled. Personally I would like to see the Bundle done away with and a tag good for 1 Buck and 1 Doe any weapon adopted. A hunter would then purchase a tag for each additional bonus antlerless. Simplify. Our current system is as easy to understand as tax code. Ky is 1 Buck/1 Doe (or 2 does) with your first tag, any season. No individual licenses. You can buy another tag good for 2 more does - after that you are done. (now there are different zones there so keep that in mind). I would like to see IN adopt this structure The southern 1/2 of Indiana is so vastly different than rest of state in regards to habitat maybe zones would make more sense??? Be interesting to set in on a DNR deer management meeting to see just how much thought is put into the county by county system. Might be surprised and might de disgusted?  IDK |
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