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Post by saltydog on Dec 9, 2023 6:12:58 GMT -5
Is any of you guys and gals Taxidermist sending in the Lymph nodes for testing ?
The Taxidermist that I use said DNR contacted him and asked if he would volunteer to send in Lymph nodes for CWD testing. He give me a web site to contact to find out the results. You have to give them your confirmation number for the results of your deer.
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Post by bill9068 on Dec 9, 2023 7:59:41 GMT -5
My taxidermist in Evansville does.
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Post by budd on Dec 9, 2023 10:46:52 GMT -5
CWD testing is required opening weekend in the zone I live in because we neighbor to a zone where it was found last year. Our testing site was a do it yourself station, the dnr supplied a bag and a hacksaw to cut the deers head off and deposit in a plastic drum. I ended up taking customers deer heads down to the station for them and depositing them because none of them wanted to deal with it. The DNR contacted me midseason and asked if I would man the station for them next year and remove glands, I said "no"..until they offered $25 per sample...LOL.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 9, 2023 11:37:42 GMT -5
We need to start killing some deer and in a hurry before that e-gets here
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 9, 2023 13:34:54 GMT -5
Testing site locations. No use stressing about things out of our control. Just another thing to deal with. Several western states and midwestern states have been dealing with for years. Not ideal situation, but IT IS NOT A END TO DEER HUNTING.
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Post by duff on Dec 9, 2023 13:52:25 GMT -5
Testing site locations. No use stressing about things out of our control. Just another thing to deal with. Several western states and midwestern states have been dealing with for years. Not ideal situation, but IT IS NOT A END TO DEER HUNTING. I tend to agree. Is there an example where it has destroyed a population? Or is the concern just due to transmission to humans?
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 9, 2023 14:00:41 GMT -5
Testing site locations. No use stressing about things out of our control. Just another thing to deal with. Several western states and midwestern states have been dealing with for years. Not ideal situation, but IT IS NOT A END TO DEER HUNTING. I tend to agree. Is there an example where it has destroyed a population? Or is the concern just due to transmission to humans? Deer normally are killed b4 disease kills them. The fear is threat it could spread to humans. (Not been any cases It has.).
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Post by greghopper on Dec 9, 2023 14:50:39 GMT -5
I tend to agree. Is there an example where it has destroyed a population? Or is the concern just due to transmission to humans? Deer normally are killed b4 disease kills them. The fear is threat it could spread to humans. (Not been any cases It has.). And there is no known cure and deer have to be dead before it can be tested Once in the soil the soil has to be removed to stop the recurrence! Seems the larger the herd the easier for the disease IMO
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 9, 2023 14:56:24 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was created by man. First case was at a research facility, just like covid. We are our own worst enemy.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 9, 2023 15:14:31 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was created by man. First case was at a research facility, just like covid. We are our own worst enemy. Sorta reminds of Covid…. Some want everything done to prevent it …some want nothing done and then there a group on the fence that doesn’t care until it effects them directly!
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 9, 2023 15:24:35 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was created by man. First case was at a research facility, just like covid. We are our own worst enemy. Sorta reminds of Covid…. Some want everything done to prevent it …some want nothing done and then there a group on the fence that doesn’t care until it effects them directly! Agreed
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Post by welder on Dec 9, 2023 16:31:53 GMT -5
COVID and CWD is actually a pretty good comparison,in my opinion. Let's say they find CWD in county "X" in Indiana. If we pretty much temporarily abolish the rules (any weapon you want, August- February, no bag limit) in county "X" and the surrounding counties,it would be a scorched earth slaughter. I am 99.9% sure, somehow, that wouldn't completely stop it. Just like shutting down the entire world did NOTHING to stop COVID. At most, temporarily ban supplemental feeding and mineral sites, but they are still going to be next to each other because they are wild animals. So not much,IMO, that can feasibly be done to stop it. If you are really worried about eating venison, get it tested before eating it. Personally, I have way too many more important things to worry about. It is what it is.....
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 9, 2023 16:55:11 GMT -5
COVID and CWD is actually a pretty good comparison,in my opinion. Let's say they find CWD in county "X" in Indiana. If we pretty much temporarily abolish the rules (any weapon you want, August- February, no bag limit) in county "X" and the surrounding counties,it would be a scorched earth slaughter. I am 99.9% sure, somehow, that wouldn't completely stop it. Just like shutting down the entire world did NOTHING to stop COVID. At most, temporarily ban supplemental feeding and mineral sites, but they are still going to be next to each other because they are wild animals. So not much,IMO, that can feasibly be done to stop it. If you are really worried about eating venison, get it tested before eating it. Personally, I have way too many more important things to worry about. It is what it is..... The CWD prions get in soil where they can survive for years, the prions are then absorbed by plants. If deer eat infected plant they are infected. Does not have to be direct contact to spread.
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Post by duff on Dec 9, 2023 17:05:35 GMT -5
So if it has not passed to humans despite several areas having positive results...it is almost given that some folks have eaten infected deer.
Are they testing 100% of the deer when it is found?
Not sure what I would do but feels like a psychological impact more than physical.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 9, 2023 18:07:49 GMT -5
So if it has not passed to humans despite several areas having positive results...it is almost given that some folks have eaten infected deer. Are they testing 100% of the deer when it is found? Not sure what I would do but feels like a psychological impact more than physical. I say rats have had it on their diet for years in a lab…..🐀 If and when a human get the disease the Deer menu for many will change IMO
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 9, 2023 20:32:32 GMT -5
So if it has not passed to humans despite several areas having positive results...it is almost given that some folks have eaten infected deer. Are they testing 100% of the deer when it is found? Not sure what I would do but feels like a psychological impact more than physical. I say rats have had it on their diet for years in a lab…..🐀 If and when a human get the disease the Deer menu for many will change IMO 1st documented case was in 1967 out west. I would expect if it was transferable to human's we would have known by now?? But dumbass scientist are experimenting with monkeys trying to give them CWD by feeding them CWD infected deer matter. (Human's are that stupid.) I am confident at some point we will be responsible for our own extinction.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Dec 9, 2023 20:49:09 GMT -5
So if it has not passed to humans despite several areas having positive results...it is almost given that some folks have eaten infected deer. Are they testing 100% of the deer when it is found? Not sure what I would do but feels like a psychological impact more than physical. A very very small % are tested in established CWD areas. I have read of (and hunted in) areas of Wyoming and Colorado where it’s been estimated at 30% or more prevalence. By those odds, I have probably eaten a CWD positive animal or two. I just think of the thousands of CWD deer eaten every year by people, bears, wolves, coyotes, etc. and it has not jumped the species barrier yet that we know of. People are a lot more likely to die of food poisoning from the slice of lettuce they put on their deer burger than from contracting CWD.
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Post by schall53 on Dec 9, 2023 20:56:59 GMT -5
So if it has not passed to humans despite several areas having positive results...it is almost given that some folks have eaten infected deer. Are they testing 100% of the deer when it is found? Not sure what I would do but feels like a psychological impact more than physical. A very very small % are tested in established CWD areas. I have read of (and hunted in) areas of Wyoming and Colorado where it’s been estimated at 30% or more prevalence. By those odds, I have probably eaten a CWD positive animal or two. I just think of the thousands of CWD deer eaten every year by people, bears, wolves, coyotes, etc. and it has not jumped the species barrier yet that we know of. People are a lot more likely to die of food poisoning from the slice of lettuce they put on their deer burger than from contracting CWD. I agree, I’m sure I have eaten CWD meat after all the meat I’ve consumed from infected areas. When it first came out I was really worried about it, don’t hardly think about it anymore.
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Post by titanium700 on Dec 10, 2023 16:20:40 GMT -5
I say rats have had it on their diet for years in a lab…..🐀 If and when a human get the disease the Deer menu for many will change IMO 1st documented case was in 1967 out west. I would expect if it was transferable to human's we would have known by now?? But dumbass scientist are experimenting with monkeys trying to give them CWD by feeding them CWD infected deer matter. (Human's are that stupid.) I am confident at some point we will be responsible for our own extinction. 100% right.
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Post by jman46151 on Dec 11, 2023 11:31:55 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was created by man. First case was at a research facility, just like covid. We are our own worst enemy. Supposedly they don't really know. The disease popped up shortly after they brought in some mule deer for research at CSU. But they were also doing research on domestic sheep and they were in the same pens at times.
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