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Post by 10point on Oct 21, 2008 20:15:55 GMT -5
Below is a quote from a HIT squad member on another site.
"I dont were a safety harness with my API because I ratchet it to the tree and you would almost have to jump out of it to fall out of it. Lock ons I have always worn something but 2 yrs ago when my fiance took up bow hunting we both got HSS."
Some people sure do have a lot of faith in there stands. Welds can break and you may not have to jump out to fall!
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Post by jajwrigh on Oct 21, 2008 21:25:37 GMT -5
Its just not worth it!
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Post by jackryan on Oct 21, 2008 21:29:48 GMT -5
So what's your point?
What is it you are really after?
Do you really want to know all the reasons why a person decides not to use a harness on any one particular day or do you REALLY just want to preach on why they should and why it should be a rule or a law that requires them to do what you do understand?
Some times I wear one and some times I don't wear one just because I'm a free grown adult american and I JUST DON'T WANT TO. Some times there are other reasons but at least until the socialist regime get's to the point of making some pack of know it all do gooders the federal tree stand inspector squad it's none of any one else's business.
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Post by Hawkeye on Oct 21, 2008 21:51:07 GMT -5
I know of a guy in Florida who went to sleep in a treestand not wearing a safety harness He fell out ,broke his back,severed his spinal cord and damaged his brain.For many years he has been on welfare.
Depending on the general public to pay his upkeep,lodging, transportation,and medical bills.
by now those cost must be close to a million dollars of tax payers funds.There are dozens of cases similar to his throughout each state,not just from falling out of tree stands.
I kind of think that makes it a lot of peoples business.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 21, 2008 22:05:56 GMT -5
Jack, Jack, Jack...
NO ONE posted that there should be a "socialist law or regulation" that everyone must wear a safety harness. Where in the world do you get that from?
It is a free country and that includes espousing one's belief that we would all be better off wearing a full body safety harness. Now you can take that advice or reject it, but you read something into that post that was not there..
Yes, you are a grown up and you may do whatever you want with your own life. Do a swan dive off your stand. It wont hurt anyone but you and your family.
But I do have to ask why such a bitter post?
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Post by lugnutz on Oct 21, 2008 22:15:22 GMT -5
Just out of curiousity, if/when a person falls from a tree with a harness on, what happens next? Just hang out for awhile or what?
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Post by Decatur on Oct 21, 2008 22:29:33 GMT -5
I, being a large mammal, would have severly bruised and chaffed inner thighs!
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Post by jajwrigh on Oct 21, 2008 22:36:29 GMT -5
I, being a large mammal, would have severly bruised and chaffed inner thighs! LOL!! |
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Post by jackryan on Oct 21, 2008 23:18:47 GMT -5
But I do have to ask why such a bitter post? Guess I've just read this question and what this thread will soon be a couple too many times for my own good. You could just replace "harness" with seat belts, cigarettes, sugar, fat, or guns and cover about half of every thing on the internet. They all know better than some one else and want to tell every one else what they should be doing. I'll try to ignore it from now on. Soon it will just as if Ralp Nader were writing it himself for our own good.I think we should just require mattresses around any tree before you are allowed to climb it. You never know, that harness could break too. The tree it's hooked to could fall or break. We should require labels with safety intruction and health advisories on every tree and the game warden could enforce a law against climbing any uncertified potential wood product. Now that we all have a cell phone you could call for a structural enginee to certify a limb before you hang on it and a timber stand improvement specialist to determine the impact on the enviroment before you trim and limbs or shooting lanes. |
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 22, 2008 6:18:30 GMT -5
Freaky stuff can happen. Why take the risk? Harness-up!
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Post by Sleazy E on Oct 22, 2008 6:40:50 GMT -5
I will be honest here the only time I ever wore any type of restraint was when I was putting stands up. Until I almost fell out of one of them recently.... scared me about half to death. So I went out and bought a HSS... but even still I don't intend to wear it in every stand... I won't use it with my climber because it is enclosed so there is little to no risk of me falling out.... I also have another enclosed stand that I won't wear it in.... As far as welds breaking..... For almost 2 years it was my job to check welds to ensure they were sturdy enough to be put on cars..... so I check all the welds on any stand I buy and spot weld what I feel is not up to snuff....
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Post by danf on Oct 22, 2008 6:56:11 GMT -5
Is everyone forgetting that a member of this board recently suffered a fall with a CLIMBING stand, one that I presume was enclosed??? Even though he had ON the harness, he was not attached to the tree when the bottom platform fell out from under him. In all honesty, that's my biggest fear when I'm using my climber- the bottom platform falling out from under me......
As for what to do if you are hanging by your harness- depending on how your stand is set up, you may be able to get back on your ladder and climb back up into your stand. Otherwise you need to keep a screw-in step ON YOU (not in your pack hanging in the tree) for you to get some relief and possibly to where you can reach the ladder/stand platform. It IS possible for a person to die while hanging in a harness motionless for a while so the last thing you *want* do do is "hang out" for a while. At the very least make sure you have a cell phone on you that gets reception in the area you are hunting!!!
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Post by 10point on Oct 22, 2008 7:08:41 GMT -5
In the event of a fall it is best to have a strap with you that will allow you to lessen the pressure on your legs. These come with Summit stands.
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Post by Sleazy E on Oct 22, 2008 8:17:10 GMT -5
Is everyone forgetting that a member of this board recently suffered a fall with a CLIMBING stand, one that I presume was enclosed??? Even though he had ON the harness, he was not attached to the tree when the bottom platform fell out from under him. In all honesty, that's my biggest fear when I'm using my climber- the bottom platform falling out from under me...... Before climbing up in the tree make sure that your platform is tied off to the top of your climber... it should have come with a rope for doing just that.... these ropes are too long in my opinion so I cut them off shorter and reattach the snap to the shortened rope... the rope should be long enough to allow you to climb.... but not so long that if your platform slips while climbing you can fall out of the stand. |
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 22, 2008 9:29:14 GMT -5
Is everyone forgetting that a member of this board recently suffered a fall with a CLIMBING stand, one that I presume was enclosed??? Even though he had ON the harness, he was not attached to the tree when the bottom platform fell out from under him. In all honesty, that's my biggest fear when I'm using my climber- the bottom platform falling out from under me...... As for what to do if you are hanging by your harness- depending on how your stand is set up, you may be able to get back on your ladder and climb back up into your stand. Otherwise you need to keep a screw-in step ON YOU (not in your pack hanging in the tree) for you to get some relief and possibly to where you can reach the ladder/stand platform. It IS possible for a person to die while hanging in a harness motionless for a while so the last thing you *want* do do is "hang out" for a while. At the very least make sure you have a cell phone on you that gets reception in the area you are hunting!!! My Loggy harness came with a razor knife & pouch already attatched to the front of the shoulder strap. Plus I always keep my cell phone in the 911 triangulation mode & within reach. |
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Post by mark on Oct 22, 2008 10:21:39 GMT -5
hi guys . its been few month scents i been on here .but i had to jump in this topic . i have been hunting for 20+ years and killed Numbers off deer. never ware at safety harness before . on 2004 i was coming down a tree with a tree stand that i will not name . the cable came out on the bottom plat form and i fell 15 to 20 feet and broke my c2 . thy call it hang mans break. i was lucky. spent 5 days in hospital . and 12 weeks off of work . i wear it all time. i like hunting to much not to. i came out off it OK but my neck hurts allot . but i dell with it . thanks for taking the time to read this. PS up to 3 does so far
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Oct 22, 2008 14:13:16 GMT -5
hi guys . its been few month scents i been on here .but i had to jump in this topic . i have been hunting for 20+ years and killed Numbers off deer. never ware at safety harness before . on 2004 i was coming down a tree with a tree stand that i will not name . the cable came out on the bottom plat form and i fell 15 to 20 feet and broke my c2 . thy call it hang mans break. i was lucky. spent 5 days in hospital . and 12 weeks off of work . i wear it all time. i like hunting to much not to. i came out off it OK but my neck hurts allot . but i dell with it . thanks for taking the time to read this. PS up to 3 does so far Good post! Congrats on the kills! |
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Post by huxbux on Oct 22, 2008 17:47:41 GMT -5
You'll never catch me without a harness and you'll never catch me not roped to the tree. Most accidents happen on the way up or down, not from falling out of a stand you've settled into.
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Post by jackryan on Oct 22, 2008 22:05:41 GMT -5
Any one I teach to hunt I'll tell wear a harness.
Any time I show some one how to use a stand or lone 'em a stand I give 'em a harness to wear and tell 'em wear a harness.
Any kids I ever take with me I MAKE 'em wear a harness.
Do as I say not as I do. I'm old. I'm btchy. I'm not YOUR mother and yer not MY mother. I'm gonna do as I frig'n well please.
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Post by dadfsr on Oct 23, 2008 9:29:45 GMT -5
I'll really play devil's advocate and say that I've never shot a deer from a stand in my 30 years of deer hunting. Why? because I feel perfectly comfortable stillhunting from the ground. How many deer have I shot? Never kept track because I am not a trophy hunter-just like being in the woods one-on-one with my quarry, but can probably figure an average of at least one a year for the freezer. Don't get me wrong I do know how to safely climb/work in a tree and probably have more $$ tied up in that occupation than my wife cares to know about  . I would just much rather do my hunting from the ground and be able to move if I feel like moving to take advantage of what may be taking place on certain day and time. Yes there are times when I wish I had a climber with me but not enough to make it really worth while. |
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. I would just much rather do my hunting from the ground and be able to move if I feel like moving to take advantage of what may be taking place on certain day and time. Yes there are times when I wish I had a climber with me but not enough to make it really worth while.