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Post by freedomhunter on Jul 27, 2009 21:51:23 GMT -5
Had a friend of mine contact me about taking a doe, his late beans are getting hit hard. He has his permits and knows with the economy my family could use some early meat as the freezer is getting low. This is the way it should be, imo. Shame on the farm owners that can't find a needy family and let them lay. I have no issue with this correct type of management.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jul 28, 2009 7:01:57 GMT -5
Sounds like a good deal to me, I wish this could be the way it always is.
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Post by birddog on Jul 28, 2009 7:18:08 GMT -5
Any farmer that is caught just leaving them lay should have to pay a very hefty fine in my opinion!!!! I don't agree with the depredation permits anyhow especially how they are handled.
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Post by tickman1961 on Jul 28, 2009 7:37:51 GMT -5
Win win for everybody involved when the meat goes to a family that is happy to recieve it. Best of luck on bringing home the venison.
It should not be hard for a hunter to find friends and family to take the bonus antllerless he or she kills. If more deer hunters would kill 2 or more during the hunting season on these farms, the less need for depredation permits.
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 28, 2009 9:14:51 GMT -5
The permits should have a requirement for a physical check in, that would quickly reduce the waste problem. Any farmer who claims that they can't find hunters to snipe their problem deer isn't looking, if they were we wouldn't get so many "No" answers when looking for ground to hunt.
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Post by Decatur on Jul 28, 2009 9:16:33 GMT -5
 Kevin1!!! |
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Post by birddog on Jul 28, 2009 9:54:57 GMT -5
Agree with Kevin 100%.......
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jul 28, 2009 11:11:57 GMT -5
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Post by firstwd on Jul 28, 2009 11:45:00 GMT -5
Personally I think the farmers that request depredation permits should be required to show proof of a certain number of hunters per land mass that they allow to hunt during regular seasons. I know the deer are eating the crops before hunting season opens, but if the farmers are not trying to lower the number of deer during the hunting season, they shouldn't be allowed to lower it out of the hunting season. I agree on the check in idea whether or not the farmer kills them or they allow other hunters to kill them. I understand this puts a little more constraints on the landowners, but IMO it would help farmers, hunters, and people in need.
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Post by dadfsr on Jul 28, 2009 16:48:50 GMT -5
on firstwd |
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Post by jackc99 on Jul 28, 2009 21:21:32 GMT -5
Anyone interested in the deer depredationprocess i ahve the pdf file available. PM me and I'll email it to you.
Jack
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Post by raporter on Jul 30, 2009 8:18:11 GMT -5
Personally I think the farmers that request depredation permits should be required to show proof of a certain number of hunters per land mass that they allow to hunt during regular seasons. I know the deer are eating the crops before hunting season opens, but if the farmers are not trying to lower the number of deer during the hunting season, they shouldn't be allowed to lower it out of the hunting season. I agree on the check in idea whether or not the farmer kills them or they allow other hunters to kill them. I understand this puts a little more constraints on the landowners, but IMO it would help farmers, hunters, and people in need. This could be another function of Telecheck! |
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Post by noblefhfh on Jul 30, 2009 15:42:32 GMT -5
I am one of the coordinator for the north east indiana chapter of Farmers And Hunters Feeding The Hungry and we are trying to get IDNR to help us get these deer donated .
It does not cost the person donating the deer anything, we pay the processing. We have not been able to get this done yet. I have been told ,after the fact, about 30 deer that have been left lay on 4 different farms, these deer would have fed alot of hungry people.
50 lbs of meat provides 200 meals.
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Post by deerman1 on Jul 30, 2009 17:51:02 GMT -5
The permits should have a requirement for a physical check in, that would quickly reduce the waste problem. Any farmer who claims that they can't find hunters to snipe their problem deer isn't looking, if they were we wouldn't get so many "No" answers when looking for ground to hunt. Bingo .I agree and will go one step farther with this statement that the farmers who truly are being hammerd by way too many deer must first participate in the new farmers and hunters program with a set number of hunters per total acreage for at least two seasons. Then have the biologist make a fallow up fist to assess the depredation level and then perhaps issue Dep tags to be used by the farmer and the hunters that were assigned to the farm with the deer problem . On a side not I know a few farmers who see a few deer in a field and automatically assume that they are over run with too many deer when in fact they just need to have the normal hunters and season type scenario. JMHO  |
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Post by freedomhunter on Jul 30, 2009 22:38:30 GMT -5
I saw first hand the problem this afternoon and took care of business. I can honestly say several factors play into why it is needed for farmers, it can be done correctly. Glad the thread has got some good response. I totally agree with the need for hunters that will kill does in season. As long as there is no wanton waste and antlers involved, it can be a tremendous help to farmers.
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Post by jim1966 on Aug 1, 2009 0:36:16 GMT -5
I am one of the coordinator for the north east indiana chapter of Farmers And Hunters Feeding The Hungry and we are trying to get IDNR to help us get these deer donated . It does not cost the person donating the deer anything, we pay the processing. We have not been able to get this done yet. I have been told ,after the fact, about 30 deer that have been left lay on 4 different farms, these deer would have fed alot of hungry people. 50 lbs of meat provides 200 meals. Hope it goes into effect soon. I was getting ready to make a post like this when I saw this reply. |
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Post by bullseye on Aug 5, 2009 21:21:52 GMT -5
It is not as easy as it sounds. I am listed as a shooter on my neighbors depredation permit and shot one last week and will probably shoot a couple of more. I keep the meat and my neighbor does not shoot them and leave them lay. Another reason I do it is since it is nice to have the meat it also makes my neighbor happy and I hunt his land during the season.
Reason I say it is not as easy as it sounds is because of the temperature. My feeling is if you shoot a deer in 90 degree weather you had better get it cooled quickly. In two hours from the time I shoot I can have the deer gutted, skinned, boned and in the fridge but that is a lot of work. Other people tell me they want a deer and to call them if I shoot them one. Then they are not home to come get it and deal with it. A lot of people want the meat but not the trouble.
I do not believe in letting them lay, but it is harder to get people to take the deer than everyone thinks. And when I go to a 10 acre field and sometimes see 15-20 deer eating beans I can see why the farmers wants the permits.
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Post by kevin1 on Aug 6, 2009 5:38:14 GMT -5
I'm somewhat wary of the concept of forcing a landowner to allow regular season hunting whether he wishes to or not in exchange for crop damage permits, this could lead to backlash and more land removed from reasonable access for all. It's kinda communistic if you think about it. Any deer shot under those permits should be donated though, in the local community or otherwise, and visual verification should be mandatory to ensure that wanton waste is not occuring.
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Post by freedomhunter on Aug 6, 2009 7:30:41 GMT -5
It is not as easy as it sounds. I am listed as a shooter on my neighbors depredation permit and shot one last week and will probably shoot a couple of more. I keep the meat and my neighbor does not shoot them and leave them lay. Another reason I do it is since it is nice to have the meat it also makes my neighbor happy and I hunt his land during the season. Reason I say it is not as easy as it sounds is because of the temperature. My feeling is if you shoot a deer in 90 degree weather you had better get it cooled quickly. In two hours from the time I shoot I can have the deer gutted, skinned, boned and in the fridge but that is a lot of work. Other people tell me they want a deer and to call them if I shoot them one. Then they are not home to come get it and deal with it. A lot of people want the meat but not the trouble. I do not believe in letting them lay, but it is harder to get people to take the deer than everyone thinks. And when I go to a 10 acre field and sometimes see 15-20 deer eating beans I can see why the farmers wants the permits. Gutless butchering in the field is one way to get it done in warm weather. Quarters and straps straight to a cooler or empty fridge, not much wasted. IDK if that would work in regular season with the regs. |
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Post by sharbsx3 on Aug 9, 2009 18:59:23 GMT -5
A friend of mine processed about 20 deer a couple weeks ago and they all got donated FHFH in southern indiana a couple of weeks ago. I agree all depredation deer should go to the people that need it and not be left in the field.
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