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Post by swilk on Oct 5, 2009 12:36:30 GMT -5
I wouldnt see any harm with letting it fall through the same crack as the urban hunts.
I do think that we will have some cases of "Dad" shooting a buck and tagging it with their kids tag. But, these are they same types of guys that would shoot the buck anyway and just not tag it at all ..... a poacher is a poacher is a poacher.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 13:13:07 GMT -5
I agree......it's been my experience that kids will follow what ever rules the adults do. If that's one buck, then they will be happy with one. Like a lot of other hunters, it doesn't have to be a gaint to make them happy, and lots of times, a doe will do just fine. I know must kids understand letting the little bucks walk just as the adults do, probably from wanting to shoot a good one as well.
I also think that incidents of mentors teaching kids to poach are rare. I have seen cases were adults hunt without a kid during youth hunts, which is rare too, but does happen. Either way, most don't get caught.
Seems that there was very few people against the rule change, sad that the prez of the IDHA was in that group.
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Post by evolutionsthunder on Oct 5, 2009 16:31:40 GMT -5
we need to do whatever it takes to keep kids interested in the hunting sport. but i also agree that most kids will be just as happy with a doe.
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Post by jkd on Oct 5, 2009 17:53:23 GMT -5
I agree totally with Camby's comments... My son and I have had the privilege of hunting at Joe's youth hunt every year since the season came into effect, and even though we do have some deer on our farm in Hamilton county, the important thing for me was to give my son the opportunity to experience a deer camp environment. A deer camp experience is totally different from driving down the road and hunting with a few friends for a couple of hours and then everyone goes home. I also wanted to be able to take him to an area with a high enough deer population that he was about guaranteed to see deer, as opposed to spending many hours/days in a stand or blind without seeing anything.
My son Chris started deer hunting at 11, and his first hunt was at Joe's on that rainy weekend. We saw deer on Sunday, but he didn't have a shot opportunity. Even though he didn't get a deer there, he completely enjoyed the camp environment and being around other youth hunters with similar interests. He went on to shoot his first deer, a buck, on the opening day of firearms season that year.
Over the years, we have seen bucks and we have seen does while at Cedar Branch, but Chris has never complained about the rule as it has been up til now, and having a mature buck come within 15 yards of our ground blind last year and feed for 20 minutes was an experience he'll never forget.
When this new rule goes into effect, as Camby said, any landowner has the right to set rules as to what type of game is taken by guest hunters on their property, and I for one am not going to second guess or villify someone based on how those rules are defined. If we have an opportunity to hunt with Joe and his partners again next year, and they decided it's anterless only, it will be up to my son to decide if he wants to hunt under that rule. Knowing the kind of hunter he's become, I suspect we will be in Switzerland County end of September carrying on what has become a father-son tradition and enjoying every minute...
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 5, 2009 19:29:24 GMT -5
That is great news. Cannot wait to get my son out there in a few years and let him pull the trigger on anything he wants to. Glad to see all of our comments made a difference.
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Post by deerman1 on Oct 5, 2009 20:15:52 GMT -5
I think more opportunity is good .But I do not understand those who complain that its so unfair for the the "kids" that they were /are not allowed to kill a buck in youth season. However the important part that all who vehemently gripe about it seem to forget is that they had the same 90 -100 season some days after the two day youth season to take their one buck just like anyone else that came before them. I wounder if they realize that by not allowing the buck in Y/S is that the kids will continue to go out and hunt instead of sitting on the couch cause its daddy's turn . I know I have two boys who did just that over the last 20 years it kept them in the woods to this day they love hunting deer just as I do.
Sometimes more is not the right path to keep kids in something just a thought from a different prospective that worked for my boys.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 5, 2009 20:49:11 GMT -5
I agree totally with Camby's comments... My son and I have had the privilege of hunting at Joe's youth hunt every year since the season came into effect, and even though we do have some deer on our farm in Hamilton county, the important thing for me was to give my son the opportunity to experience a deer camp environment. A deer camp experience is totally different from driving down the road and hunting with a few friends for a couple of hours and then everyone goes home. I also wanted to be able to take him to an area with a high enough deer population that he was about guaranteed to see deer, as opposed to spending many hours/days in a stand or blind without seeing anything. My son Chris started deer hunting at 11, and his first hunt was at Joe's on that rainy weekend. We saw deer on Sunday, but he didn't have a shot opportunity. Even though he didn't get a deer there, he completely enjoyed the camp environment and being around other youth hunters with similar interests. He went on to shoot his first deer, a buck, on the opening day of firearms season that year. Over the years, we have seen bucks and we have seen does while at Cedar Branch, but Chris has never complained about the rule as it has been up til now, and having a mature buck come within 15 yards of our ground blind last year and feed for 20 minutes was an experience he'll never forget. When this new rule goes into effect, as Camby said, any landowner has the right to set rules as to what type of game is taken by guest hunters on their property, and I for one am not going to second guess or villify someone based on how those rules are defined. If we have an opportunity to hunt with Joe and his partners again next year, and they decided it's anterless only, it will be up to my son to decide if he wants to hunt under that rule. Knowing the kind of hunter he's become, I suspect we will be in Switzerland County end of September carrying on what has become a father-son tradition and enjoying every minute... Amen....Great post  I would bet if the Hunt turns to any Deer the Youth would not be detoured to a less productive piece of land  |
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Oct 5, 2009 23:34:38 GMT -5
we need to do whatever it takes to keep kids interested in the hunting sport. but i also agree that most kids will be just as happy with a doe. Yes they would; but, how happy would the kids be if they had to pass on a buck and they don't see any does? It has happened to my son and to others as well. The reason I strongly supported this measure was to ensure that the kids had the best chance to harvest a deer during the youth season. |
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