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Post by jajwrigh on Dec 16, 2009 23:18:39 GMT -5
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Post by indybassin on Dec 16, 2009 23:57:38 GMT -5
I thank the Lord whenever I take a squirrel, rabbit, bird and just once... a deer. Hope to be thankful again this weekend  |
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 17, 2009 0:04:46 GMT -5
to each his own
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Post by kdog8173 on Dec 17, 2009 6:12:18 GMT -5
hay turkeyscout, u forgot CATFISH..yummy
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Post by deerbiskit on Dec 17, 2009 10:15:08 GMT -5
Do you not agree with me indianahick?
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 17, 2009 10:35:17 GMT -5
Guilt no! Admiration yes............ I always pause for a few minutes to admire such a fine beast that is so in tune with it's environment before I start field dressing.
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Post by HuntMeister on Dec 17, 2009 10:53:22 GMT -5
There is an element of sadness that I feel when I kill an animal, especially one as beautiful and regal as a whitetail. It is one of a flood of emotions that flood through me on a wave of adrenaline after I make the shot. I am not ashamed of it. I don't feel "guilty", but there is a twinge of empathy and sadness, and I am glad there is. It makes me human. I think this best describes how I feel, definitely a whirlwind of emotions. At that moment that I confirm the kill I always pause a moment to appreciate the animal and say thanks. |
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Post by INDeerhunter on Dec 17, 2009 11:01:51 GMT -5
I do not fill guilty for takin a good shot on a deer that ends with the deer dying quickly and not laying there for an hour sufferin. I dont feel bad for eating a burger and dont understand y animal rights ppl cant understand deer huntin when they eat at fast food places or cook a chicken, if u wanna feel bad for an animal go visit a slaughter house and look at what they do ! If God didnt intend on us to harvest animals he would of showed us how to plant crops and not how to fish !!! just my opinion but to each there own...
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Post by barton174 on Dec 17, 2009 17:07:13 GMT -5
fell bad? guilty? what in the he!! are you talking about? your on the verg of sounding like some tree hugger I feel sorry I have to stop hunting for a while to get that deer out of the woods but then again I'm also a trapper and I have heard many arguments fron ainimal rights folks that play on the heart strings of others by saying "animals have feeling like humans" so i guess they build cars and trucks and houses and have banks and celibrate birthdays and holidays and grow gardens and have Wal-marts and all I think i will vomit now! I don't mean this as an insult, but you don't have an inside dog, do you? Having feelings is different than having opposable thumbs, walking upright to use them, and having a big enough brain to invent things... My mom's cousin and his wife have a "house deer" whose mom got hit by a car by their house when she was very young. She apparently displays a lot of the same emotions that the dogs do...     He's a hunter (and a forrester) as well, by the way... just not THAT one... ------------------------ To answer the question, I only feel bad killing stuff when I wound one and it suffers... If it's a "BOOM - falls over - kicks a couple times - dies" like my first one this year, I don't feel bad at all... I do take a moment to thank the animal for its sacrifice, and then proceed to field dress, tag, then butcher it... I haven't wounded and lost one, but if/when that happens, I would feel really guilty about that... Mike |
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Post by vectrix on Dec 17, 2009 17:19:04 GMT -5
Thats awesome, I would wait until she come in estrous and put a leash on her and tie her under my stand!!!!!
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Post by featherduster on Dec 17, 2009 18:17:14 GMT -5
DITTO TURKEY SCOUTS COMMENTS:Yes I feel bad when I know I shot an animal and it is lost however those lost animals have made me a better hunter.I try with every season to be a better hunter,not by trying to fill my freezer but by being a better hunter.I thank the good LORD for every animal I harvest, every fish I keep and all the good things mother nature has to offer.
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Post by deerman on Dec 17, 2009 21:02:36 GMT -5
I do feel bad when I don't hit the mark and wound an animal and have to make a follow up shot. I try to only take good clear shots and make sure my weapon is perfectly sighted in, but bad shots do happen. If you shot a deer and it doesn't die immediately and lays there and moans and suffers and you don't feel bad or guilty for it something is wrong with you. With clean kills I don't feel any guilt.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 17, 2009 21:45:16 GMT -5
I do feel bad when I don't hit the mark and wound an animal and have to make a follow up shot. I try to only take good clear shots and make sure my weapon is perfectly sighted in, but bad shots do happen. If you shot a deer and it doesn't die immediately and lays there and moans and suffers and you don't feel bad or guilty for it something is wrong with you. With clean kills I don't feel any guilt. My sentiments exactly... |
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Post by swilk on Dec 18, 2009 8:38:23 GMT -5
I gotta ask .... what do they do about the doe when she "comes in"?
I suppose they could have taken her to the vet and been "fixed" just like a dog??
I have been around lots and lots of captive deer ..... enough to know they are not a dog. Not saying they cant have the temperment of the family pet but they are much, much more powerful than any dog I have ever personally seen. I would not want children around that deer.
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Post by parson on Dec 18, 2009 8:40:10 GMT -5
Q: "Why do you kill deer?"
A: "Try eating a live one just one time and you'll understand!"
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Post by barton174 on Dec 18, 2009 9:32:48 GMT -5
I gotta ask .... what do they do about the doe when she "comes in"? I suppose they could have taken her to the vet and been "fixed" just like a dog?? I have been around lots and lots of captive deer ..... enough to know they are not a dog. Not saying they cant have the temperment of the family pet but they are much, much more powerful than any dog I have ever personally seen. I would not want children around that deer. She's only inside when they're home and awake... She stays in the yard or barn otherwise... She's not fixed, I know... She's naturally still a bit wild, but the feelings I'm talking about are fear, uneasyness, being excited or happy when the people come home, etc... They don't show a lot of the "pack" social kinds of emotions that dogs do (jealousy over food/toys/attention), but deer are far from eating, drinking, reproducing, and crapping machines like reptiles are... They have one kid (or rather, he has one kid from before), who is like 24 and doesn't live at home... Mike |
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Post by drs on Dec 18, 2009 9:49:49 GMT -5
I dont feel bad as long as I find the deer and it doesnt go to waste. I have lost deer before and felt bad for killing it. Not saying YOU are but if your killing just to kill you shouldnt be hunting. I agree. The animal MUST be taken in a humanly way. I have had a few Deer get away from me and felt very bad about it. Also had Squirrels enter a hole in a tree and having to listen to them suffer. Best thing ANY Hunter can do is to be sure their equipment is in good working order and sighted in. |
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Post by swilk on Dec 18, 2009 10:08:06 GMT -5
I gotta ask .... what do they do about the doe when she "comes in"? I suppose they could have taken her to the vet and been "fixed" just like a dog?? I have been around lots and lots of captive deer ..... enough to know they are not a dog. Not saying they cant have the temperment of the family pet but they are much, much more powerful than any dog I have ever personally seen. I would not want children around that deer. She's only inside when they're home and awake... She stays in the yard or barn otherwise... She's not fixed, I know... She's naturally still a bit wild, but the feelings I'm talking about are fear, uneasyness, being excited or happy when the people come home, etc... They don't show a lot of the "pack" social kinds of emotions that dogs do (jealousy over food/toys/attention), but deer are far from eating, drinking, reproducing, and crapping machines like reptiles are... They have one kid (or rather, he has one kid from before), who is like 24 and doesn't live at home... Mike May have been taken the wrong way but I wasnt commenting on the "feelings" ..... I was talking only from a physical "power" standpoint. It really, really surprised me the first time I experienced how powerful a deer is. That is the only reason I said I wouldnt want children around it .... |
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Post by barton174 on Dec 18, 2009 10:17:36 GMT -5
She's only inside when they're home and awake... She stays in the yard or barn otherwise... She's not fixed, I know... She's naturally still a bit wild, but the feelings I'm talking about are fear, uneasyness, being excited or happy when the people come home, etc... They don't show a lot of the "pack" social kinds of emotions that dogs do (jealousy over food/toys/attention), but deer are far from eating, drinking, reproducing, and crapping machines like reptiles are... They have one kid (or rather, he has one kid from before), who is like 24 and doesn't live at home... Mike May have been taken the wrong way but I wasnt commenting on the "feelings" ..... I was talking only from a physical "power" standpoint. It really, really surprised me the first time I experienced how powerful a deer is. That is the only reason I said I wouldnt want children around it .... I know you were... She's still a very powerful, wild animal, though she grew up around humans... Yes, any 200# (she's maybe 100-120) animal that can clear a 16' fence probably shouldn't be around kids... I was just referring back to my original post about it, responding to the guy who basically said they were eating/sleeping meat machines, to make himself feel better... It's easier to kill something without feeling anything for it, when you convince yourself it's barely self-aware (like fish or snakes)... Mike |
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 18, 2009 12:36:18 GMT -5
Thats awesome, I would wait until she come in estrous and put a leash on her and tie her under my stand!!!!! Thats friggin awesome!!! ;D ;D ;D |
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