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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 20, 2010 10:22:21 GMT -5
WHEW !!!
This correcting the numbers was a 7 cup of coffee job this morning.
The original post is correct now.
Problems..
1) The site I copied and pasted the counties from had a one county listed twice and one county not even listed at all.
2) The alphabetical order was not the same from the IDNR to the copied net supplied counties.
3) The IDNR map of the districts was so small that I mistook LaGrange county for Lawrence county.
4) I transposed a couple numbers. Been away from real work too long. 
It is good now...
Carry on with your discussions..
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Post by Decatur on Feb 20, 2010 10:27:29 GMT -5
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Post by throbak on Feb 20, 2010 12:10:12 GMT -5
another thing these facts.dont show is ,I live in jefferson co. I didnt see any deer in my co. or farm ...I hunted in Switz. ,Ohio and Ripley where deer were taken that accounted for some of there rise in harvest
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Post by deerman1 on Feb 20, 2010 15:08:49 GMT -5
District 4 was almost the same as last year just ever so slightly higher and went with the siteings I had .
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 20, 2010 15:35:31 GMT -5
Post #2 is updated with the biologist district map..
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Post by ridgerunner on Feb 20, 2010 17:10:24 GMT -5
Interesting....look like the EHD that hit south a couple years ago hasn't made a recovery yet.
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 21, 2010 18:02:25 GMT -5
Can anyone explain these to me?
District 2.
LaPorte county is DOWN 260 while it’s eastern neighbor St. Joseph county is UP 144.
Marshall is DOWN 88 while it’s eastern neighbor Kosciusko is UP 290 and it’s northern neighbor St. Joseph county is UP 144.
District 3
LaGrange county is DOWN 151 while it’s eastern neighbor Steuben is UP 430
Noble is DOWN 143 while it’s western neighbor in district 2 Kosciusko is UP 290
District 14
District 14 is DOWN 440 while district 11 immediately to the east is UP 1243
That is just the ones that jump out at me. I’m sure there are some others that are head scratchers.
What do you all think?
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Post by Decatur on Feb 21, 2010 18:07:58 GMT -5
Things that make you go hmmmmm....
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Post by throbak on Feb 21, 2010 18:37:29 GMT -5
probably like me in jefferson co. I didnt have any deer (ehd) so I went to Ohio, Switz ,and ripley to hunt ,and got deer there when I normally would hunt Jefferson.
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Post by racktracker on Feb 21, 2010 18:53:13 GMT -5
Interesting numbers, but no idea on the rises and falls between counties and districts.
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Post by duff on Feb 21, 2010 20:46:09 GMT -5
Interesting I figured the % difference of those counties you listed and the average was 1.1% growth total. Which was about the same for the entire state.
Laporte -10%
St. Joe +10%
Marshal -3%
Kosciusko +9%
Lagrange -6%
Stueben +12%
Noble -4%
It's hard to say why Laporte dropped 10% and St. Joe increased by 10% or any of the others listed. Could be change in tags doe harvest, crops, or 10% of the Laporte Co hunters moved over to St. Joe county.
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Post by jkd on Feb 22, 2010 16:20:44 GMT -5
I think throbak makes a good point... as some hunters had no luck on their own property or long time hunting spots, they start looking at high density public areas, thus increasing the hunting pressure in those counties.
Woody's question about adjoining counties having different trends makes me wonder about whether large amounts of property has been leased up or changed ownership, or on the other hand, certain tracts with high deer density were opened to hunting or more intense hunting.
It'll likely never happen, but at one time, the old DAC committee discussed having IDNR add a line on the check-in form asking for the township in which a deer was taken, which would have allowed tracking trends on a much finer level than just by county. I'd always thought that would be a useful tool, as it would allow specific tracking in urban zone townships compared to the county-wide stats we have now.
Woody, I suspect some of this stat weirdness can be tracked back to local weather patterns and how long corn stood in a given area, as this was definitely a wet one from about July on in a lot of areas....
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Post by old3arrows on Feb 22, 2010 17:22:20 GMT -5
Throbak, Trophyhunter1, and I all noticed lower than normal deer numbers in Jefferson County. EHD? I don't know because I only found two dead deer during that year that could have died from any number of reasons. We usually have heavy deer hunting pressure on the surrounding properties during gun season which drives deer on to us, so you can pick and choose what you harvest. Not this year. Hunting pressure was heavy but little deer movement on opening weekend of gun. I always thought that the aging deer by jaw teeth was fairly accurate, but I guess that I am wrong. I have never had a deer aged at a check in station or on a park hunt since 1991. I check most of my deer in now at Cross Plains.
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Post by evolutionsthunder on Feb 22, 2010 17:47:42 GMT -5
my local check station said he had a record year but by looking at the numbers knox co was down 53.
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Post by old3arrows on Feb 22, 2010 17:59:32 GMT -5
I just went on line and looked at the county by county harvest numbers!  Central Indiana is totally pathetic! Before long Hamilton and Madison Counties will look like Marion and Tipton. No public ground and little access to private ground = low deer harvests. Madison County is an eight for bonus county deer! Yea right! The harvest is up slightly from previous years but a harvest like that is unrealistic and unobtainable! I don't care how much door knocking you do here, you will not gain permission to hunt unless the land owner is very laid back, which means he or she already has plenty of other hunters on it already. If you don't own it, lease it (farming or hunting), or are related to it you will not hunt on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's why I opted to buy, but it wasn't in central Indiana!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by parrothead on Feb 23, 2010 7:03:26 GMT -5
I hunt close to Brooksburg in Jefferson/Switzerland Co. I am on the opposite end. I saw the same amount of deer as normal. Killed 5 does and a buck. Opening weekend still heard the normal 300-400 shots opening morning
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Post by drs on Feb 23, 2010 8:01:31 GMT -5
Where I live now here in Ky. the County's total Deer Harvest remained amost about the same as last Season (2008). There were 17 fewer Deer taken in my County over last year, which is mainly contributed to the warm weather conditions and last winter's ice storm, which restricted hunting in some areas.
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Post by schall53 on Feb 23, 2010 8:51:16 GMT -5
I think umemployment could be a big factor in the rise in St. Joseph co.. Elkhart co was also up a little. There was alot of people living in St. Joseph co. that worked in the RV industry in Elkhart. People had alot more time and need to hunt. Certainly not because there were more deer!
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Post by Indyhunter on Feb 25, 2010 0:07:12 GMT -5
Here are the DNR Harvest summaries dating back to 2000. They are broken down by County, season, antlered/antlerless, yearling/adult etc. If someone is real bored, there are some good numbers over a 10 year period to crunch. www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/2717.htm |
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Post by deerman1 on Feb 28, 2010 9:47:56 GMT -5
Can anyone explain these to me?District 2.LaPorte county is DOWN 260 while it’s eastern neighbor St. Joseph county is UP 144. Marshall is DOWN 88 while it’s eastern neighbor Kosciusko is UP 290 and it’s northern neighbor St. Joseph county is UP 144. District 3LaGrange county is DOWN 151 while it’s eastern neighbor Steuben is UP 430 Noble is DOWN 143 while it’s western neighbor in district 2 Kosciusko is UP 290 District 14District 14 is DOWN 440 while district 11 immediately to the east is UP 1243 That is just the ones that jump out at me. I’m sure there are some others that are head scratchers. What do you all think? IMHO the hunters in those areas ahave done a way way better job of taking the doe herd down over the last 5 or 6 years than the DNR may have thought also I beleive that there was a raise in bonus tages per hunter back then it will take some looking into on the old law books though. They may need to back off the tags for a few years in some of these lower number counties if the numbers stay low or continue to fall , |
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Central Indiana is totally pathetic! Before long Hamilton and Madison Counties will look like Marion and Tipton. No public ground and little access to private ground = low deer harvests. Madison County is an eight for bonus county deer! Yea right! The harvest is up slightly from previous years but a harvest like that is unrealistic and unobtainable! I don't care how much door knocking you do here, you will not gain permission to hunt unless the land owner is very laid back, which means he or she already has plenty of other hunters on it already. If you don't own it, lease it (farming or hunting), or are related to it you will not hunt on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 