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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 26, 2010 9:31:12 GMT -5
The state will be in much worse shap when no one has an LTL than they are now. My bet is most people by a buck and a doe tag yops and the LTL holders and landowners are the ones taking the bulk of the does. Once that stops no amount of funds will help the DNR manage the deer herd. I agree... this is really two seperate issues. 1) Money 2) Controlling the herd. Hypothetical thought - If there had never been a LTL and landowners had to buy tags at the present prices we would be flat over run with deer ....
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Post by antiwheeze on Feb 26, 2010 9:47:07 GMT -5
my dad bought ltl's for himself, me and my nephew. My dad no is able to hunt and my nephew has never taken a deer but I made up for both of them ;D
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Post by mrfixit on Feb 26, 2010 12:07:06 GMT -5
WHAT? Your kidding .....right? Lifetime License money was put in a seperate fund and is currently being used to ""help Indiana game and non game species"" Regardless of what was done with the LTL monies, the IDNR is grossly underfunded. The whole and complete state government is underfunded, it isn't just the IDNR. It will probably get worse before it gets much better.
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Post by mrfixit on Feb 26, 2010 12:11:36 GMT -5
IMO, best thing a lifetime license holder can do is buy the resident hunting/fishing combined license every year if they desire to help Indiana game and non game species. I feel no guilt for having a lifetime license. I was a broke sob with kids and really didn't have the money to do it at the time but done it anyway much to the chagrin of the ex wife who harped about it for years afterwards. I made a lot of sacrifices and listened to a lot of crap just to have my lifetime hunting/fishing license. I'm not sorry and I absolutely refuse to feel guilty and if all you people in here complaining and trying to lay the guilt trip on the ones with LTL's had made a few sacrifices you could be sitting where we with lifetime licenses are now. I don't mean to be rude that's just how I feel about it.
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Post by throbak on Feb 26, 2010 12:18:42 GMT -5
no guilt here either just kidding on earlier post ;D besides that I know of 3 ltl holders that have moved out of state we still have there money and they MAYBE hunt here
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Feb 26, 2010 16:15:43 GMT -5
no guilt here either just kidding on earlier post ;D besides that I know of 3 ltl holders that have moved out of state we still have there money and they MAYBE hunt here Yeah but they will always have that option.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Feb 26, 2010 19:40:59 GMT -5
No lifetime license here and I contribute at least $100 a year in tags. I am not complaining and I'm doing my part to fund the IDNR. I should have bought a LTL while they were still around, but I didn't and that is not going to stop me from buying all the tags I want.
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Post by huxbux on Feb 26, 2010 19:48:35 GMT -5
In the case of the IDNR, it's not just the poor economy though. The main reason we have trouble retaining wildlife biologists is because Indiana has historically been one of the lowest paying states.
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Post by featherduster on Feb 26, 2010 20:33:20 GMT -5
I purchased my lifetime hunting and fishing license about the same time WOODY did his. The funny thing is 10 years ago I purchased my property and now I do 90% of my hunting and fishing on my own land. The nice thing is if I am invited to hunt or fish off my property I don't have to scramble to buy a license or stamps. When my son graduated from college I bought him his lifetime license, 2 years later they discontinued the license. Money well spent !
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Post by cambygsp on Feb 27, 2010 7:24:24 GMT -5
There is still millions of dollars in the Lifetime License fund, the state is only allowed to take a certian amount out each year, and they need special permission to take more than they are allowed.
I think the last time they took a large sum was when they went to the computer issued license system.
I don't get it.......if lifetime license was such a good deal...........why didnt everyone get one?
Many folks paid over a thousand dollars for their license when deer tags were selling for what......$12.00- $14.00 each!
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Post by drs on Feb 27, 2010 8:23:00 GMT -5
No lifetime license here and I contribute at least $100 a year in tags. I am not complaining and I'm doing my part to fund the IDNR. I should have bought a LTL while they were still around, but I didn't and that is not going to stop me from buying all the tags I want. When I still lived in Indiana, I had a chance to buy the LTL but passed as I could see finincial trouble for the IDNR down the road. So I just bought my licenses/tags as I did each year. Another thing that kept me from purchasing as LTL was the fact that many of the private lands I hunted were disappearing thus I didn't want to be stuck with a LTL and no place to hunt except crowded public hunting areas. I now live here in Ky with my own hunting property.
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Post by fullrut on Feb 27, 2010 9:00:35 GMT -5
My mom and dad bought me mine in 1985 I think. I was 10. Best gift ever. I think it was 260$. What was the first year they were offered? Wonder who has the lowest number liscense on the site. Mine is under 2400.
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 27, 2010 9:43:30 GMT -5
My mom and dad bought me mine in 1985 I think. I was 10. Best gift ever. I think it was 260$. What was the first year they were offered? Wonder who has the lowest number liscense on the site. Mine is under 2400. Must have been later than 1985. I bought mine on December 9, 1987 and my number is in the 1400s.
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Post by swilk on Feb 27, 2010 10:17:01 GMT -5
Well .... mine was issued on October 17, 2001 and I have # 13976.
I have a buddy who had his bought for him when he wasnt old enough to hunt yet .... Im not sure when the licenses first came available but I bet he was one of the first few to have one.
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Post by schall53 on Feb 27, 2010 11:28:43 GMT -5
I bought my lifetime comprehensive license on 02/20/02 number is in the mid 15,000's. I think I paid $860.00 which like others have said was alot more than I really could aford at that time. I also do most of my hunting on my land.
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Post by duff on Feb 27, 2010 11:47:16 GMT -5
A lady I currently work with bought her husband one and it is under 100. Another guy I used to work for bought one for him, his 3 kids and they are all under 100 too. I couldn't tell you what when they bought them other then the first year they were available. The guy with 4 under 100 I think were maybe even under 20 but it's been 10 years since I spoke to the guy. He was a top guy for IDNR Water when he bought them.
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Post by duff on Feb 27, 2010 11:49:12 GMT -5
I bought mine in the 90s but still have to get my fishing license. Best money I ever spent.
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Post by deerman1 on Feb 27, 2010 15:25:46 GMT -5
There are some good posts here and a few very greed or jelousy guided posts here as well. Anyone that paid the money for a ltl was smart and owes this state or any hunter who does not have a LTL nothing at all the rest of the years they hunt here. The fact some either did not get one ,could not afford one ,or were too young I truly am sorry for ya .
LTL holders and land owners are this states best hope for deer herds overall take and statewide management tools. The fact we take more deer by percentage than the average hunter who takes deer is not a suprise nor should it be . The state will one day see that they need to change deer license structure or open the LTL sales up over the next 10 or 20 years or risk a flood of of deer in aunt mables garden or the soccer moms minivan grill! I have a LTL and own land. So I dubble dip and will continue to with zero guilt.
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Post by tenring on Feb 27, 2010 18:08:34 GMT -5
1988 #2058
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Post by whiteoak on Feb 27, 2010 18:40:11 GMT -5
IMO, best thing a lifetime license holder can do is buy the resident hunting/fishing combined license every year if they desire to help Indiana game and non game species. I agree. Naw, the best thing would be for all those that did not purchase a LTL would be to donate $525.00 (that's what mine cost)to the DNR. Then I might start buying a resident hunting license again.
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