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Post by deerbiskit on Feb 28, 2010 11:37:19 GMT -5
I saw a couple of my buddies mounts the other day and the racks looked so much smaller than I remember. I think my buck scored about 133 and was wondering how much it would shrink.
The thing I really like about my buck is the width, will it shrink?
I've also heard about taxidermist putting a 2X4 between the main beams, does that work?
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Post by crazybuck on Feb 28, 2010 13:52:26 GMT -5
Consider yourself lucky if your buddies antlers look smaller than yours. The only time you are going to get antler shrinkage is when you look at someone elses and they end up dwarfing yours! LOL
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 14:06:14 GMT -5
Any antler shrinkage that actually occurs will be so minimal that it would never be visable to your eyes.
The shrinkage you are experiencing is that of your minds eye perception of what you remembered your buddy's buck to look like and what you see now.
Shrinkage from green to dry is not significant. It only matters for the final official score.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 14:47:05 GMT -5
2-3 inches normally from green to dry. Most of the time the shrinkage is do to green scores being very conservative and dry scores being more specific. Especially when done by an official scorer.
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Post by ridgerunner on Feb 28, 2010 15:01:18 GMT -5
I've had the inside spread shrink 1/2" on deer before..that's it. That's why they make you wait 60 days drying time before officially scoring a deer.. They do shrink but not enough to notice without a tape measure.
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Post by huxbux on Feb 28, 2010 15:03:14 GMT -5
I don't know anything about it other than my own personal experience. One year a friend and I both took nice bucks from the same woods on the same day. The deer I took was at least a year older if not a couple. His antlers were dark brown while my friends buck had a shiny white rack. We assumed my buck rubbed his velvet off much earlier. When we picked up the mounts several months later, we couldn't even pick his mount out of the others on the wall because it had shrunk so much it didn't look the same. The deer I took looked the same as the day I shot it. I'm wondering if the shrinking process was well on it's way on the buck I took while my buddies deer was much farther behind in the process. At any rate, I've never before or since seen a deers antlers lose as much mass as the buck my friend shot that year.
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Post by BOBinIN on Feb 28, 2010 15:30:18 GMT -5
By far the worst is "ground shrinkage"...I hate it! It'll turn that 10 pointer into a medium six by the time it takes you to get over there to him. After that the shrinkage is substantially less.
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Post by booner1331 on Feb 28, 2010 20:32:39 GMT -5
my experience is usually 1", but less than 2" for sure from green score to after 60 days
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 22:24:21 GMT -5
the deer dad took this year lost right at 5". me and him both scroed it and came up with roughly the same green score, within a half inch of each other. The bigger the buck the more it will shrink, more tines to shrink up. I have heard of deer losing as much as 20 inches from green scores but these deer were over 200 inches to begin with.
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Post by ridgerunner on Mar 1, 2010 11:46:40 GMT -5
I have heard of deer losing as much as 20 inches from green scores but these deer were over 200 inches to begin with. I doubt that very seroiusly..whoever told you that was smokin something..  |
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 1, 2010 11:58:11 GMT -5
At the time of kill, it is dead bone (no blood flowing in it).
I doubt that any antler would shrink much. The shrinkage is usually the skull cap sutures closing up .
Yes, some unscrupulous folks will put a brace between the beams and keep the antlers in a cold or frozen environment to keep the sutures from closing..
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Post by swilk on Mar 1, 2010 12:24:33 GMT -5
I wonder if there are any documented cases ..... of a deer green scored by a certified scorer and then re-scored by the same scorer after the 60 day drying period, where there was anything more than an inch or two of total shrinkage.
I have heard of several deer loosing a bunch of inches between the green score and an official final score ..... and those are usually accounted for by the fact the green scorers arent certified and arent very good at scoring.
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Post by Woody Williams on Mar 1, 2010 13:00:54 GMT -5
I wonder if there are any documented cases ..... of a deer green scored by a certified scorer and then re-scored by the same scorer after the 60 day drying period, where there was anything more than an inch or two of total shrinkage. I have heard of several deer loosing a bunch of inches between the green score and an official final score ..... and those are usually accounted for by the fact the green scorers arent certified and arent very good at scoring. Maybe FullRut can answer that one.. |
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Post by hunter7x on Mar 1, 2010 15:28:32 GMT -5
I asked a good friend of mine who is an official scorer from Mo this questiuons and this was his answer.
"I don't green score that many anymore.....Would rather just see it once, after 60 days.
But, those that I have greened, and finished, the most I've seen is 1/8" to 1/4" on inside spread, and no shrinkage anywhere else, after the 60 days"
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Post by vectrix on Mar 1, 2010 18:35:17 GMT -5
my deer this year green scored 159 and something - net after drying time 158 1/8 same scorer
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Post by woodmaster on Mar 1, 2010 21:01:59 GMT -5
the deer dad took this year lost right at 5". me and him both scroed it and came up with roughly the same green score, within a half inch of each other. The bigger the buck the more it will shrink, more tines to shrink up. I have heard of deer losing as much as 20 inches from green scores but these deer were over 200 inches to begin with. Sorry but I have a hard time believing this. Why would solid bone shrink? No moisture in the dry bone. The only shrinkage you will get is in the spread because of the skull plate losing moisture and that will minimal. |
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Post by jgrimm on Mar 1, 2010 21:28:01 GMT -5
I have heard of deer losing as much as 20 inches from green scores but these deer were over 200 inches to begin with. I doubt that very seroiusly..whoever told you that was smokin something..  ! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2010 23:10:52 GMT -5
there was a deer killed by a guy named troy gentry off of fort knox a few years ago. it net scored just under 200 green. bass pro and cabelas offered x amount of money for this deer at that time. when it was officially scored it was in the range of 186 or 189. when this happened their price dropped by thousands of dollars. this deer lost 10 to 15 inches.
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Post by huntingman on Mar 2, 2010 7:13:33 GMT -5
I doubt that very seroiusly..whoever told you that was smokin something.. ! +111111111111111111:D  |
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Post by huxbux on Mar 2, 2010 7:37:45 GMT -5
there was a deer killed by a guy named troy gentry off of fort knox a few years ago. it net scored just under 200 green. bass pro and cabelas offered x amount of money for this deer at that time. when it was officially scored it was in the range of 186 or 189. when this happened their price dropped by thousands of dollars. this deer lost 10 to 15 inches. Do you have a link for this story? |
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