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Post by daworz on Nov 3, 2012 6:19:01 GMT -5
As of Now Its Reloader 7,
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Post by onhopr12 on Jun 5, 2013 19:59:57 GMT -5
I've never tried real BP but have used Pdex in my first years of muzzle loading. I've tried 777 and Shockly Gold but couldn't get consistency out of them and they left a larger fouling ring where the bullet seated. I have been using Pdex Select with good results. Though with the PP Lee .501 and American Powder there might be pretty decent possibilities. Though this is through my firearm your mileage may vary.
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Post by markthelad on Jul 3, 2013 14:22:36 GMT -5
Pdex-RS for me. Yeah, I know it's dirty and ya gotta swab after every shot, but I'm a tight-wad and BH209 is to expensive ($32.00 + shipping = 2 expensive) I can't buy it anywhere local and hate the $20 shipping cost, so I guess I'll keep swabbin'.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 12:48:35 GMT -5
Blackhorn 209...IMO it has no equal in the BP powder offerings. Non hydroscopic, granuales all identical, can be measured by volume or weight, no buildup so no swabbing between shots and best of all you don't have to fret about cleaning your gun after shooting it. If you need to wait a couple of days no problem. It is still corrosive though just not to the extent of BP. Cleanup can be done with standard cleaning solvents such as Hoppes No.9. I hunt with BH209, but I didn`t find it to be ultra-accurate, nor did I find it easy to load after the first shot. I do hunt with it, because it is accurate enough to hunt with, (although I didn`t achieve even close to 25 shots through the same jagged hole), and I do like the ability to clean the next day, rather than feel the need to tear it down and clean immediately. I also like that Hoppes No. 9 is recommended to clean with, as I love the smell of Hoppes. I just wish I had seen the tremendous accuracy, and the ease of reloading.
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Post by ms660 on Sept 1, 2014 13:37:32 GMT -5
My marriage is a lot better since I started using BH209. I thought it was going to end a few times while cleaning my gun inside in the wife's kitchen while using black powder because of the stink it left. She bought me my first bottle of BH209 for Christmas about 3 years ago and I have never fired black powder since.
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Post by deadeer on Sept 1, 2014 16:20:05 GMT -5
Blackhorn 209...IMO it has no equal in the BP powder offerings. Non hydroscopic, granuales all identical, can be measured by volume or weight, no buildup so no swabbing between shots and best of all you don't have to fret about cleaning your gun after shooting it. If you need to wait a couple of days no problem. It is still corrosive though just not to the extent of BP. Cleanup can be done with standard cleaning solvents such as Hoppes No.9. I hunt with BH209, but I didn`t find it to be ultra-accurate, nor did I find it easy to load after the first shot. I do hunt with it, because it is accurate enough to hunt with, (although I didn`t achieve even close to 25 shots through the same jagged hole), and I do like the ability to clean the next day, rather than feel the need to tear it down and clean immediately. I also like that Hoppes No. 9 is recommended to clean with, as I love the smell of Hoppes. I just wish I had seen the tremendous accuracy, and the ease of reloading. I have shot well over 300 shots without cleaning on BH209. I know that the loading gets easier the more shots on the barrel when using it. I would just pull the breech plug after 50 shots to make sure it comes out and clean it up. But it will still rust up a gun, my Encore 209X50 would attest to that before I sold the barrel. I have nothing but good experience to say about it. It does need to be lit with a magnum primer like Federal 209a or CCIM magnum primers, NOT 777 type reduced fouling primers. And it likes to have a tight fitting bullet and sabot combo, NOT a Powerbelt type bullet. Jay
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 16:33:12 GMT -5
Thank you for that information Jay. I`m shooting a Knight Disc Extreme, bought from Galyans years ago. A good, sturdy, well made rifle, in .50 cal. I`ve been shooting the Knight, (Barnes), Red Hot bullet with the sabot that comes with it. And I have been using the Winchester or CCI Magnum primer, I`d have to look to see which. I`ve planned on continuing to shoot it for the ease of cleaning and the ability to delay cleaning. I plan on getting out before the archery opener to check the zero on the Leupold 3x9 mounted on it.
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 1, 2014 17:22:40 GMT -5
gregr, did you play around with many different powder charge amounts? Sometimes you just play around with different amounts of the powder until you find the sweet spot that your barrel and bullet combo likes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 17:26:35 GMT -5
gregr, did you play around with many different powder charge amounts? Sometimes you just play around with different amounts of the powder until you find the sweet spot that your barrel and bullet combo likes. No, I sure didn`t, and I should have thought of that. I think I only shot a 110 grain measured charge of the BH209. I would like to be at least 90 grains, and more like at least 100, but I guess would be satisfied with a powder charge of between 100-120 grains.
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 1, 2014 18:32:43 GMT -5
IIRC, my best groups came with 95 grains of BH209. That was with a 250 grain Barnes bullet and a Harvester short black sabot.
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Post by jackryan on Sept 7, 2014 22:03:40 GMT -5
GOEX FFF
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Post by trapperdave on Sept 8, 2014 15:13:36 GMT -5
same here. I have some pyrodex pellets left for my inline. But BP only in my cap and flint locks
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Post by jackryan on Sept 8, 2014 16:50:03 GMT -5
All my inlines use cartridges.
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Post by omegahunter on Sept 10, 2014 18:48:58 GMT -5
Goex FFg, can't get it locally so I shoot loose 777.
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Post by sakorifle on Sept 10, 2014 19:31:09 GMT -5
308 hogdons 4895 and 155 amax
22 hornet lillgun and 35grn v max
very accurate recipes
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Post by sakorifle on Sept 10, 2014 19:31:38 GMT -5
308 hogdons 4895 and 155 amax
22 hornet lillgun and 35grn v max
very accurate recipes
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Post by HuntMeister on Sept 11, 2014 2:09:17 GMT -5
308 hogdons 4895 and 155 amax 22 hornet lillgun and 35grn v max very accurate recipes This is a muzzleloader firearm board not a cartridge firearm board sako.
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Post by sakorifle on Sept 11, 2014 10:15:07 GMT -5
sorry
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Post by antiwheeze on Sept 11, 2014 13:34:27 GMT -5
BH 209 in a closed breech, tight sabot and with hot primer.
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Post by oldhoyt on Sept 12, 2014 7:27:58 GMT -5
In muzzleloaders, I've predominantly shot Pyrodex RS. I have shot a little BP, but saw no advantage in it. I know you can get different opinions, but I recall reading some study (probably done by the maker of Pyrodex) showing pressure curves. They graphed pressure curves from 100 "shots" of Pyrodex, and did the same for BP. The Pyrodex was much more consistent. Of course, there are any number of ways to make that happen.
Anyway, when loaded consistently, being careful to push the bullet down and firmly compress the powder charge, Pyrodex provides all the power and accuracy I need. Some day I'll try BH 209.
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