My first food plot plans need advise

[irishhunter]

This will be my first food plot, my plan is to spray this area let die off then disc with my 4 wheeler , seed and run a fence over it ...

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[irishhunter]

The image is from the top of the valley on that side what you see is the bottom of the funnel , seveal deer have been shot from this bottom. My propery is on the right side

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[irishhunter]

I think I am going to put clover in it anything else I should mix in , like I said this will be my first one and will keep updating pics as I go along . this area is under a powerline that was cut last year , it receives full sun

[boonechaser]

I'd mix a small amount of chickory in also to give some variety.

[daneowner]

on adding the chickory. Also, I like to mix differant variety of clovers together for a food plot due to differant maturity times etc. Good Luck!

[hornharvester]

Use oats with your clover mixed in. The oats will mature out and hold moisture for the clover underneath. You will end up with a nice stand of clover this fall and the next 3 -4 years. h.h.

[throbak]

Kill it Now, Kill it again ,oats, wheat or Turnips or whatever sowed in Aug. Or Sept . clover seed again in feb frost seeded

[irishhunter]

Thanks guys I sprayed it once its looking good so far, Any suggestions on any particual brand of seed

[hornharvester]

Apr 8, 2012 8:18:33 GMT -5 irishhunter said:

Thanks guys I sprayed it once its looking good so far, Any suggestions on any particual brand of seed

The cheapest you can find as long as they are current dated. h.h.

[huntingman]

Use Vinegar to spray, it kills just as good if not better than roundup and it washes out of the soil much faster,

[5kirks]

Vinegar? never heard of that, how much do you mix per galllon of water?

[daneowner]

Vinegar? From what i've read, isn't a good thing for the soil (will lower the PH) Doesn't go to the root for a complete kill.

[dadfsr]

Apr 8, 2012 19:41:33 GMT -5 huntingman said:

Use Vinegar to spray, it kills just as good if not better than roundup and it washes out of the soil much faster,

Just curious-at what rate are you spraying this? What are you spraying it for? What is it labeled for??

In short you are suggesting a "home remedy" that is not labeled for any of the above....

[hornharvester]

I looked it up and vinegar doesnt kill roots. It will kill and brown out the leaves very quick but in a few days the plants start to grow. Do a search and you will see. h.h.

[irishhunter]

I used round up with a little soap in it and a little blue food coloring so I could see what had been sprayed and what had not. Round up really does a number on them

[hornharvester]

The best total kill Ive ever used is Round up or generic round up and 2,4-D mixed together. Round up is good for grasses and 2,4-d is good for any broad leaf plants. Round up has been used so much in the last 20-30 years there are 22 weeds that now are immune to round up. Most of them are where cotton grows. It seems some farmers are going back to using propane burners as they plant to burn weeds off. I saw this a couple weeks ago on Market to Market on PBS. h.h.

[goosepondmonster]

Apr 10, 2012 8:54:57 GMT -5 @hornharvester said:

The best total kill Ive ever used is Round up or generic round up and 2,4-D mixed together. Round up is good for grasses and 2,4-d is good for any broad leaf plants. Round up has been used so much in the last 20-30 years there are 22 weeds that now are immune to round up. Most of them are where cotton grows. It seems some farmers are going back to using propane burners as they plant to burn weeds off. I saw this a couple weeks ago on Market to Market on PBS. h.h.

What ratio do you mix it at?

[dadfsr]

Apr 10, 2012 10:50:17 GMT -5 goosepondmonster said:

Apr 10, 2012 8:54:57 GMT -5 @hornharvester said:

The best total kill Ive ever used is Round up or generic round up and 2,4-D mixed together. Round up is good for grasses and 2,4-d is good for any broad leaf plants. Round up has been used so much in the last 20-30 years there are 22 weeds that now are immune to round up. Most of them are where cotton grows. It seems some farmers are going back to using propane burners as they plant to burn weeds off. I saw this a couple weeks ago on Market to Market on PBS. h.h.

What ratio do you mix it at?

Look at the label!!! I can't stress this enough!!!!!

There should be listed mixtures that whatever brand of "Roundup" you have should be mixed at. There are many, many different formulations of glyphosate with many, many different strengths for each formulation.

What you are asking is similar to asking which round shoots best in a 50 cal muzzleloader That's an apples to oranges comparison but the range of answers will/should be just as varied.....

While I'm on the soapbox about looking at and following the label-when you are buying whatever chemical to use for controlling whatever pest take a look at the label before buying it!!

Just because something is "cheaper" doesn't mean you are getting a better deal. Example-if a certain brand name chemical product is twice as much as another brand name but same chemical, take a look at the active ingredients. There is probably a reason that the more expensive chemical is, well more expensive! If it takes a third as much of the "twice as much" chemical to cover the same amount of area which is the better deal???

Companies have to market what they put on shelves and if it takes more containers to sell the same of chemical then you are paying for the extra containers and not less for the chemical.

Can you tell I'm working in the Indiana State Chemist office???