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Post by sharp1 on Apr 9, 2012 15:49:06 GMT -5
I know at Blugrass Fish and Wildlife near Evansville, the DNR is encouraging people to KEEP all crappie caught due to overpopulation of smaller ones.
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Post by duff on Apr 9, 2012 16:29:15 GMT -5
No
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 16:45:46 GMT -5
I have always thought that many lakes that have an over population of small Crappie, may not have enough predatory fish.
If those lakes had more Bass, pike, etc to eat the small Crappie, then perhaps the Crappie numbers would stay more balanced.
Then once those numbers were in check, a Size Limit would really help those lakes.
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Post by featherduster on Apr 9, 2012 16:51:31 GMT -5
NO
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Post by raporter on Apr 9, 2012 20:48:39 GMT -5
Living at Patoka I get to catch a bunch of crappies. I have never met anyone here who thinks we need a size limit. Most people I talk to including some enforcement people think we need to take the numbers limit off for a while. I rarely keep crappies for myself but try to find someone bankfishing or just not catching enough and give them some.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 18:59:13 GMT -5
The guys down south love the Slot limits for Bass, and the Size Limits for Crappie.
I love the 10 inch Size Limit here on Kentucky Lake.
I probably release about 99% of the Fish I catch, many are over 10 inches, but I still release them so they can grow another year.
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Post by duff on Apr 10, 2012 19:44:03 GMT -5
Good for you and them. Indiana doesn't need no stinking size limit on crappie.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 9:09:19 GMT -5
I was actually thinking the INDR was talking about this last year.
They were also talking about building stake beds in certain lakes for fish Habitat.
Size Limits save fish, and allow them to grow another year. Some lakes have too many small Crappie. That is because those lakes have unhealthy fish populations. Those lakes do not have enough predatory fish like Bass to eat the small Crappie.
Those lakes need stricter rules, slot limits, or stricter size limits for Bass, so the Bass will survive.
Many lakes are not managed properly or at all, that is why they have so many small Crappie.
Everyone complians about the small Crappie in Lake Monroe. The reason there are so many small Crappie in Lake Monroe is probably because there are not enough Bass and predatory fish to eat the small Crappie and to control their numbers.
If Monroe had more Bass, then they would eat a lot of the small Crappie. Then Monroe would start to have a much healthier Crappie population. Then Size limits on Crappie could be put into place, then the lake would start to become a trophy Crappie lake.
The reason Monroe does not have enough Bass is because of over fishing, lack of grass, stumps and habitat, and liberal rules, limits. That lake needs a strict Slot Limit or size limit for Bass, so they can survive.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Apr 11, 2012 13:05:58 GMT -5
Monroe has an adequate population of predatory fish between the bass, walleyes and wipers. Most people don't know how to fish the lake, including me. Springtime tourneys take low to mid 20 pounds to win. Thats as good as an average as anywhere else.
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Post by joeyb on Apr 11, 2012 13:13:38 GMT -5
I definitely wouldn't support this. I think if it's big enough to clean, then it's big enough to keep. I think an individual knows what they can personally clean. I think it should be this way for most fish although I know a lot of people would disagree. Your overall limit is more important than size in my opinion. I don't think we have any sort of problem on our crappie numbers.
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Post by raporter on Apr 11, 2012 13:30:15 GMT -5
The main problem with most Indiana lakes is gizzard shad. They eat the same thing small game & panfish eat so there is not enough of that food to go around. Find a lake in Indiana without the shad and you will find a good panfish lake.
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Post by duff on Apr 11, 2012 16:13:36 GMT -5
That is right, and the DNR was not talking about a size limit on crappie in Indiana that I am aware of... I'd like to see your reference if that was the case.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 17:23:23 GMT -5
There needs to be more Predatory fish that will eat the Gizzard Shad. Gizzard Shad can grow large, but Bass will still eat them, so will other predatory fish.
Some people stock Stripped Bass into lakes, in order to control the Shad Populations, in fact I know of 1 private lake in Indiana that did that a few years ago, and it reall helped, my relatives live on that private lake.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 17:30:29 GMT -5
As for Lake Monroe, There are a lot of bluegill, and small Crappie.
The Bass fishing can be hard on that lake.
I think the lake is an unbalanced fishery. Too many bluegill, and Crappie and not enough Bass, Walleye, Northern Pike etc, and that probably hurts the entire lake.
If there were more predatory fish, they would eat the shad, eat the small Crappie, as a result the Crappie numbers would be kept in balance. So then there would be less Crappie in the lake fighting each other over food. I think this would help the Crappie that would be in the lake, to grow larger.
Then that is where the Size Limit would help.
I think all lakes need to have well rounded fish populations of every species.
KY Lake has a lot of Largemouth Bass, Smallmouth Bass, Yellow Bass, White Bass, Stripped Bass, Catfish, Sauger, Crappie, Redear, and Bluegill.
All of those predatory fish, keep the Crappie numbers in balance.
It's the same with Deer hunting, limit the number of Deer, then the Deer don't have to compete as much for food. Then the remaining Deer are likely to grow larger, and your hunting area will have better genetics and deer size after a few years.
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Post by duff on Apr 11, 2012 18:39:48 GMT -5
Uhh yea...thanks for your opinion. Maybe IDNR is needing a new fisheries biologist?
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Post by whitetail1 on Apr 12, 2012 6:41:12 GMT -5
Uhh yea...thanks for your opinion. Maybe IDNR is needing a new fisheries biologist? He seems to have all of the answers!
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Post by speckle on Apr 12, 2012 8:04:33 GMT -5
So why is there size limits on bass?
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Post by raporter on Apr 12, 2012 10:23:02 GMT -5
So why is there size limits on bass? Just my thoughts.. Bass are at or near the top of the food chain and are needed to help control more prolific spawners. When bass populations get out of control in state waters the DNR will put a slot limit on them.
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Post by speckle on Apr 12, 2012 12:57:25 GMT -5
When you put crappie in a farm pond they will eat everything in it, thats why they recommend not to do so. I would put crappie before bass on the food chain
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Post by moray on Apr 12, 2012 14:27:14 GMT -5
If the problem is an overpopulation of small fish you need to reduce the number of fish.If all your harvesting is mature fish, putting a 10" or bigger limit on the crappie will only leave you with alot more small fish.
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