How does this sound

[practicalsportsman]

I was reading that Ohio only allows a hunter four deer period. Now why hasn't our state thought about going to this type of system, i really got to thinking if you pressure antlerless deer like we are they will go nocturnal and so will the bucks. Meaning low deer sightings during the day, and thus less opportunity at filling your tag(s) the new bundle could become the new license for the whole year for most of the state JMO. What do you all think.

[3ptbuck]

I like to shoot more than 4 deer…

[jab]

5 gets my family through the year. Just dont pressure your ground until time is right

[Woody Williams]

It used to be that way way back when. Very few hunters kill more than 4 a year anyway...

[dbd870]

Very few hunters kill more than 4 a year anyway...

This - it's a non issue.

[firstwd]

Why do deer get accused of doing something the natural progression of the year causes? Do deer actually go nocturnal, or do they continue to move on their normal schedule and the shortening days just make their normal schedule in your area seem nocturnal?

[daworz]

I use to Kill 4 every year, But with the size reduction here at the House I now do 1 or 2 max, We use to do 1 whole deer in Jerky, and passed alot of it out as Christmas Gifts, I now have friends that say doing anymore Jerky, and I always had 1 done in Sauages, from Rimm's Hot pepper Cheese, I would sometimes get 30 rolls, and eat maybe 10 and the rest were Gifts also. more than 4 deer is alot of Deer Meat.

[Deleted]

Last I heard.Ohio does not have Magic Mud so their doe limit has to be lower.

[jdaily]

No good for me. I bought the lifetime. Just have to move around from county to county shooting doe. There's people out there that need the extra meat I take out of the woods , you limit the number I can take, people will go hungry.

[salt]

You guys are having a discussion about something that isn't even true....

Ohio divides the state into 3 regions. A, B, and C. You can kill only 2 deer in region A per year, 4 deer in region B, and 6 in region C. That's a total of 12 deer. Enough to feed a small army if one chooses.

The season runs from September 29 through February 3. The license is $24 and is an either sex tag good for all weapons. They also sell a $15 antlerless tag that must be used by November 25th which is the day before their gun opener...

They may not have magic mud... But they have plenty of deer!

[mkfrench]

Amazing the amount armchair biologist on these forums. While I definitely don't trust our government on everything, and believe there should be some checks and balances on laws/regulations, biologist, who I hope are highly educated make informed suggestions in deer bag limits. My point is very few hunters(none) travel the whole state, county by county and witness deer numbers. People who have a low harvest year are usually the ones complaining.

I didn't see a deer the last time I hunted, there must not be a deer left in southern Indiana<-----sarcasm.

[charmerbaits]

I know the deer numbers are much lower in Southern IN than in Western KY but yet I can kill more deer here including more bucks when you figure in the Urban Deer Zone. I don't trust Indiana DNR with anything, I truthfully don't think they care are hunters or fishermen.

[practicalsportsman]

The best ratio for growing big racks is 1:2 to 1:3, since we have obr maybe we need to go to a lower doe limit. a way to corect this is have a north zone and a south zone, basically halving the state north goes to a max of 3 does while south stays like it is. the reason for this is we have large open fields here in the northern part of the state as compaired to the southern part.

[Deleted]

1:1 is the best

[Deleted]

Doesn't Ohio have a 2 Buck Limit ?

[mkfrench]

Nov 23, 2012 18:50:13 GMT -5 practicalsportsman said:

The best ratio for growing big racks is 1:2 to 1:3, since we have obr maybe we need to go to a lower doe limit. a way to corect this is have a north zone and a south zone, basically halving the state north goes to a max of 3 does while south stays like it is. the reason for this is we have large open fields here in the northern part of the state as compaired to the southern part.

Thank you for validating my "armchair biologist" statement. Where did you get your degree in wildlife management?

So killing less does will lower the buck to doe ratio? Are you saying there are more bucks than does in Indiana currently?

[salt]

No Ohio is one buck only...

[practicalsportsman]

Nov 23, 2012 20:52:55 GMT -5 mkfrench said:

Nov 23, 2012 18:50:13 GMT -5 practicalsportsman said:

The best ratio for growing big racks is 1:2 to 1:3, since we have obr maybe we need to go to a lower doe limit. a way to core ct this is have a north zone and a south zone, basically halving the state north goes to a max of 3 does while south stays like it is. the reason for this is we have large open fields here in the northern part of the state as com paired to the southern part.

Thank you for validating my "armchair biologist" statement. Where did you get your degree in wildlife management?

So killing less does will lower the buck to doe ratio? Are you saying there are more bucks than does in Indiana currently?

Now i have talked with the professor of animal science at Purdue, since deer are bovines the best management practice would be to take a minimum of 2 does with a max being 3. this helps with recruitment also you must be willing to let yearling animals pass and take only those animals that are truly mature. This is biological harvesting, a system that our dnr biologist have apparently forgot when they got their jobs.

[trapperdave]

that doesnt even make sense.

I doubt you have talked to the professor of animal science at Purdue , he would know deer are not bovines. And theres no cut n dried number of does that need taken. Each area and its population are different

[trapperdave]

FAMILY BOVIDAE
Subfamily Bovinae
Tribe Boselaphini
Genus Tetracerus
Four-horned antelope, Tetracerus quadricornis
Genus Boselaphus
Nilgai or blue bull, Boselaphus tragocamelus (not to be confused with the extinct bluebuck Hippotragus leucophaeus, Hippotraginae)
Tribe Bovini
Genus Bubalus
Water buffalo, Bubalus bubalis
Wild Asian water buffalo, Bubalus arnee
Lowland anoa, Bubalus depressicornis
Mountain anoa, Bubalus quarlesi
Tamaraw, Bubalus mindorensis
Cebu tamaraw†, Bubalus cebuensis (extinct)
Genus Bos
Aurochs†, Bos primigenius (extinct)
Banteng, Bos javanicus
Gaur, Bos gaurus
Gayal, Bos frontalis (domestic gaur)
Yak, Bos mutus, Bos grunniens
Bos palaesondaicus†, (extinct)
Domestic cattle, Bos taurus (increasingly considered a subspecies of Bos primigenius)
Domestic zebu, Bos indicus (increasingly considered a subspecies of Bos primigenius)
Kouprey, Bos sauveli (possibly extinct)
Genus Pseudoryx
Saola, Pseudoryx nghetinhensis
Genus Syncerus
African buffalo, Syncerus caffer
Genus Bison
American bison, Bison bison
Wisent, Bison bonasus
Steppe wisent†, Bison priscus (extinct)
Ancient bison†, Bison antiquus (extinct)
Long-horned bison†, Bison latifrons (extinct)
Genus Pelorovis† (extinct)
Giant buffalo, Pelorovis antiquus
Tribe Strepsicerotini
Genus Tragelaphus (antelope-like)
Bongo, Tragelaphus eurycerus
Greater kudu, Tragelaphus strepsiceros
Kéwel, Tragelaphus scriptus
Imbabala, Tragelaphus sylvaticus
Lesser kudu, Tragelaphus imberbis
Mountain nyala, Tragelaphus buxtoni
Nyala, Tragelaphus angasii
Sitatunga, Tragelaphus spekeii
Genus Taurotragus
Common eland, Taurotragus oryx
Giant eland, Taurotragus derbianus
[edit]Etymology

Bovine is derived from Latin bos, "ox", through Late Latin bovinus. Bos comes from the Indo-European root *gwous, meaning ox.