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Post by schall53 on Dec 4, 2012 9:19:21 GMT -5
This is a Mule Deer I shot a couple of years ago in Wyoming. When I field dressed him he only had one small testicle about the size of a small lima bean.
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Post by bowhunterjohn on Dec 4, 2012 9:20:21 GMT -5
how much did the guy weigh approximately ? and look at his teeth, if he still has a set of small milk teeth on his bottom jaw then its just a young ( 5-7 month old ) deer and would have grown a rack next season.
I've seen some buttons that their testicles haven't dropped all the way , not sure though
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Post by saltydog on Dec 4, 2012 9:27:00 GMT -5
Woody It may have been EHD, The buck was taken in switzerland co. It hard down there agian this yr. He dress out in the 150# They aged him to be about a 4 1/2 yrs
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 9:36:13 GMT -5
Not shedding velvet is a condition related to low testerone levels. Low levels can be because of several issues, including injury or undescended testicals.
A cactus buck is almost akways a buck as described abive who does not drop antlers each year, and tbe velvet (which is flesh) continues to build up mass. This is why cactus bucks are not accepted into B&C because its not bone.
IMO, the first deer discussed here is a normal BB with undescended testicals because he is too young to grow a scotum yet.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2012 9:40:42 GMT -5
Woody It may have been EHD, The buck was taken in switzerland co. It hard down there agian this yr. He dress out in the 150# They aged him to be about a 4 1/2 yrs 150 pounds is real light weight for a 4 1/2 year old buck. Especially those Switzerland county bucks...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 9:56:01 GMT -5
Most, if not all EHD deer show signs of it in their hoves. Most people spot this pretty quick. Low weight could be because of a lot if reaaons including food intake or lack of.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 4, 2012 10:31:29 GMT -5
Stag button?? Never heard of such a beast. From pic look's like a yearling button to me??
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Post by joeyb on Dec 4, 2012 10:35:43 GMT -5
Looking like a budding buck to me...
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Post by practicalsportsman on Dec 4, 2012 12:12:51 GMT -5
I wanted to mention that his hooves were slender and not the typical fat type bucks usually have, also since i'm going to mount him his eye to nose measurement being 6" he should have had at least spikes and was around 105 lbs. on the hoof. His stomach didn't have a single bean or corn kernal in it, just twigs and leaves. Was told by a local ICO that it could be the result of malnutrition due to the drought.
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Post by kodiak50 on Dec 4, 2012 12:29:09 GMT -5
Hell he was only MAYBE six months old his hooves were still growing! Malnutrition in Indiana I seriously doubt it, what do expect a button buck to weigh?
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 4, 2012 12:32:45 GMT -5
105 pound button bucks are no where near "malnourished".
105 pouns is a huge button buck .
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Post by practicalsportsman on Dec 4, 2012 12:47:14 GMT -5
He should have had at least small spikes.
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2012 12:49:35 GMT -5
I gotta go with the majority on this one .... the picture of the the deer you posted looks like a normal button buck to me.
Nothing you have posted (hoof size, weight, testicles) is really saying anything other than normal button buck.
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Post by kodiak50 on Dec 4, 2012 12:52:47 GMT -5
He should have had at least small spikes. Why? most 6 month old bucks are just breaking the skin with their "horns". That is why so many buttons are shot by people thinking they are does.
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Post by boonechaser on Dec 4, 2012 12:53:31 GMT -5
To borrow a NFL football term. "COME ON MAN" LOL
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Post by swilk on Dec 4, 2012 12:56:32 GMT -5
He should have had at least small spikes. Why? most 6 month old bucks are just breaking the skin with their "horns". That is why so many buttons are shot by people thinking they are does. And the fact they often weight 20-40lbs more than their sibling sisters makes it easy to confuse them with a bigger doe if a guy isnt careful.
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Post by scrub-buster on Dec 4, 2012 13:40:19 GMT -5
Could you post some better pictures of that little bucks head? It almost looks like some big bulges where the base of the antlers should be, but I can't tell for sure from that picture. It does look like a young buck though so it might be just a normal button buck. Take a picture from the side and maybe one looking straight down at it if you can. And get a little closer to it so we can see it better.
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Post by practicalsportsman on Dec 4, 2012 22:47:39 GMT -5
Scrub-buster you are right he does have big bases, and that's the only picture i took sorry. Any of you know how to enlarge the picture to show the bases.
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Post by scrub-buster on Dec 4, 2012 22:53:07 GMT -5
Didn't you say you were going to mount it? Can't you take some more pictures of it? I would like to get a better view of the top of its head.
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Post by scrub-buster on Dec 4, 2012 22:59:35 GMT -5
I tried enlarging the picture but it got blurry. It looks like the bases are the size of an orange or bigger. I've never seen a button buck like that before. You need to get some better pictures. You might actually have something unique there. If the bone structure is deformed it might make a better Euro mount than a shoulder mount.
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