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Post by deadeer on Aug 20, 2013 0:51:28 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone has any news on him. He went quiet again and I am hoping for the best of any news.
Jay
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Post by goosepondmonster on Aug 20, 2013 8:21:01 GMT -5
I saw him at the waterfowl workshop on 8/10. He seemed to be doing very well, so hopefully he hasn't had any setbacks.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 20, 2013 9:12:30 GMT -5
One of the side effects of such a heart attack is apathy.
Jon is going through that big time..
My belief is God spared him as He has bigger plans for him..
Keep him in your prayers..
Thanks..
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Aug 20, 2013 21:12:20 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone has any news on him. He went quiet again and I am hoping for the best of any news. Jay Hello fellas, Woody is correct; I'm suffering from a great deal of apathy. I just don't care about anything. I just go through the motions each day. It is so strange to me as I am typically a very passionate person with everything that I'm involved in. Now, I force myself to work on my boat to stay busy. If I stay busy, I don't think about anything other than what I'm doing at the moment. The sad part is that I'm not excited about my boat; I could not care less about it, and I've done a lot to it. I usually sleep 10hrs at night and take a nap or two during the day. This is all from the damaged heart. Years ago a family tragedy got the best of me. I was 40 years old and had never experienced depression. I didn't have a clue what it was and didn't understand what people were talking about. Well, this incident was painful enough to send me to a place were I'd never been. I very rarely talk about it. It almost killed me. All I could think about was death, killing myself. I could think of nothing else. I call this place "the Pit"; it's deep, bottomless actually, dark, no light at all, an abyss of agonizing mental torture with an inescapable grip, but the most dangerous manifestation of the pit is that fear does not exist there, no fear. I was trapped in this pit for 6 long years, and finally spent 5 days in a stress center. I said that the pit had an inescapable grip; I did not escape. That part of me died, but it was a part that needed to die. I have taken an antidepressant since this monumental event. Now, I do not feel depressed; however, I feel no fear. Fear can be a good thing. I feel no joy. I feel no pain. I just exist. I don't care if I die, but I do not want to kill myself. I know depression as wanting to kill myself; however, I know that apathy is a state of depression. Recently my body has started retaining water. I wasn't on a water pill, because my sodium dropped too low. I was getting dizzy and a little loopy, but not happy. Today, I had to start taking a water pill. They tell me that my heart can't get rid of the water. I know nothing about the the science behind this. I didn't know that the heart had anything to do with retaining water, but I really don't care to know. Anyway, now my sodium will drop even lower. They tell me that a side effect of my antidepressant medicine is a decrease in residual sodium. Well, I may need to take more antidepressant medicine, but it complicates my sodium problem. I see my family doctor on Monday to discuss this problem. I think that I've seen 8 different doctors since my heart attack, but as much as I sleep, I may have just dreamed about a couple of them. If you know anything about me, you know that my faith is very important in my life. I have trouble even thinking about it now. I feel numb to everything; however, my head knowledge is keeping me stable. I know that God has a plan for everything. Note that I did not say that he makes everything happen that happens. He just has a plan for it. God used the painful experience of my past to change me in a way that was more useful to him and his ministry. It's odd, but I knew this back then, and still wanted to kill myself. Depression is dangerous. I know that God will use this experience in some way, change me in some way. This may sound odd to you, but the day before my heart attack, I prayed fervently for God to make another change in me for His glory. I specifically begged him to do anything that was necessary to make this change in me. This change will be a process, and will be painful and expensive, but I believe that the coming change will glorify Him. Yes, please pray for me; I need it.
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Post by saltydog on Aug 20, 2013 21:24:00 GMT -5
Continued Prayers for you and your family Dennis.
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Post by Decatur on Aug 20, 2013 21:29:15 GMT -5
Here's a shout out for you Jon Snow. Like you, I've had a really rough couple of years. Just keep hanging in there and praying.
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Post by deadeer on Aug 21, 2013 1:26:19 GMT -5
Hang in there bud. Plenty of positive things in life ahead for you. Try to watch a sunrise or sunset in a quiet place to air out your head. Good luck.
Jay
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 21, 2013 7:37:10 GMT -5
Dennis,
As I told you in my email - God HAS plans for you. First you need to get better. I know it is a rough time, but this time WILL pass. Nothing but the love of God lasts forever.
Keep doing what the docs says, do your rehab when possible and post on here when you need a little fellowship.
God bless and prayers for you and yours..
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Post by schall53 on Aug 21, 2013 8:43:43 GMT -5
Jon, I know where you are at. Two years ago I had heart problems myself. I went about a year not knowing what was wrong. I was sick to my stomach, hot flashes, apathetic, tired, and had constant panic attacks. Finally I self diagnosed my self with depression and asked my cardiologist to put me on something for it. Worked like a charm. It is normal for one out of three to get depression from heart problems. Hang in there and do what they say, take it a day at a time, it WILL get better. I will continue to pray for you.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Aug 21, 2013 10:36:14 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone has any news on him. He went quiet again and I am hoping for the best of any news. Jay Hello fellas, Woody is correct; I'm suffering from a great deal of apathy. I just don't care about anything. I just go through the motions each day. It is so strange to me as I am typically a very passionate person with everything that I'm involved in. Now, I force myself to work on my boat to stay busy. If I stay busy, I don't think about anything other than what I'm doing at the moment. The sad part is that I'm not excited about my boat; I could not care less about it, and I've done a lot to it. I usually sleep 10hrs at night and take a nap or two during the day. This is all from the damaged heart. Years ago a family tragedy got the best of me. I was 40 years old and had never experienced depression. I didn't have a clue what it was and didn't understand what people were talking about. Well, this incident was painful enough to send me to a place were I'd never been. I very rarely talk about it. It almost killed me. All I could think about was death, killing myself. I could think of nothing else. I call this place "the Pit"; it's deep, bottomless actually, dark, no light at all, an abyss of agonizing mental torture with an inescapable grip, but the most dangerous manifestation of the pit is that fear does not exist there, no fear. I was trapped in this pit for 6 long years, and finally spent 5 days in a stress center. I said that the pit had an inescapable grip; I did not escape. That part of me died, but it was a part that needed to die. I have taken an antidepressant since this monumental event. Now, I do not feel depressed; however, I feel no fear. Fear can be a good thing. I feel no joy. I feel no pain. I just exist. I don't care if I die, but I do not want to kill myself. I know depression as wanting to kill myself; however, I know that apathy is a state of depression. Recently my body has started retaining water. I wasn't on a water pill, because my sodium dropped too low. I was getting dizzy and a little loopy, but not happy. Today, I had to start taking a water pill. They tell me that my heart can't get rid of the water. I know nothing about the the science behind this. I didn't know that the heart had anything to do with retaining water, but I really don't care to know. Anyway, now my sodium will drop even lower. They tell me that a side effect of my antidepressant medicine is a decrease in residual sodium. Well, I may need to take more antidepressant medicine, but it complicates my sodium problem. I see my family doctor on Monday to discuss this problem. I think that I've seen 8 different doctors since my heart attack, but as much as I sleep, I may have just dreamed about a couple of them. If you know anything about me, you know that my faith is very important in my life. I have trouble even thinking about it now. I feel numb to everything; however, my head knowledge is keeping me stable. I know that God has a plan for everything. Note that I did not say that he makes everything happen that happens. He just has a plan for it. God used the painful experience of my past to change me in a way that was more useful to him and his ministry. It's odd, but I knew this back then, and still wanted to kill myself. Depression is dangerous. I know that God will use this experience in some way, change me in some way. This may sound odd to you, but the day before my heart attack, I prayed fervently for God to make another change in me for His glory. I specifically begged him to do anything that was necessary to make this change in me. This change will be a process, and will be painful and expensive, but I believe that the coming change will glorify Him. Yes, please pray for me; I need it. I know what you need, hookers and blow. Saddle up, I'm buying. Seriously though, keep your chin up. What you are going through will pass. Once you get back to work and have something to occupy your mind it will help.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Aug 21, 2013 14:44:38 GMT -5
Hang in there Bud. Prayers are on the way.
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Post by saltydog on Aug 21, 2013 15:12:26 GMT -5
Dennis here is a poem for you that my uncle sent me in a time of trials.I hope you find this food for your Heart, Mind and Soul, and any one that is in a trial in their life (including Myself). It’s In The Valleys I Grow
Sometimes life seems hard to bear, Full of sorrow, trouble and woe It’s then I have to remember That it’s in the valleys I grow.
If I always stayed on the mountaintop And never experienced pain, I would never appreciate God’s love And would be living in vain.
I have so much to learn And my growth is very slow, Sometimes I need the mountain tops, But it’s in the valleys I grow.
I do not always understand Why things happen as they do, But I am very sure of one thing. My Lord will see me through.
My little valleys are nothing When I picture Christ on the cross He went through the valley of death; His victory was Satan’s loss.
Forgive me Lord, for complaining When I’m feeling so very low. Just give me a gentle reminder That it’s in the valleys I grow.
Continue to strengthen me, Lord And use my life each day To share your love with others And help them find their way.
Thank you for valleys, Lord For this one thing I know The mountain tops are glorious But it’s in the valleys I grow!
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Post by duff on Aug 21, 2013 16:59:37 GMT -5
great poem! So much truth to that.
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Post by josephwrealty on Aug 21, 2013 17:02:56 GMT -5
Hang in there
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 17:13:10 GMT -5
It really stinks that you are going through this. I hope you realize that even as you are struggling through this apathy stage, there are a lot of guys around here that are anything but apathetic about you! You came here and breathed a fresh new life into this little online community. Your enthusiasm was infectious. I pray for the day when that returns to you along with better health.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Aug 21, 2013 18:31:07 GMT -5
It really stinks that you are going through this. I hope you realize that even as you are struggling through this apathy stage, there are a lot of guys around here that are anything but apathetic about you! You came here and breathed a fresh new life into this little online community. Your enthusiasm was infectious. I pray for the day when that returns to you along with better health. Agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 19:03:04 GMT -5
Keepnyour head up. Try to make plans to attend this years youth hunt. Good fellowship and good food. We'll make sure you have a good time
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Post by evolutionsthunder on Aug 22, 2013 17:38:45 GMT -5
Keepnyour head up. Try to make plans to attend this years youth hunt. Good fellowship and good food. We'll make sure you have a good time help keep your mind off of things for the weekend
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Post by varmint101 on Aug 24, 2013 12:20:14 GMT -5
Prayers for ya Jon! Take care and don't sit in tall grass. Chiggers are bad this year. God bless!
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Post by Sasquatch on Aug 26, 2013 13:29:36 GMT -5
You get to feeling better! It just takes time. keep on chooglin'
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